Availability of new bikes

C4Kid

Hi guys,

I currently have a CUBE road bike which I'm looking to replace.

I'm eyeing up a Merida Reacto 5000, the one below: https://www.merida-bikes.com/en/bike/2021/reacto-5000

I'm in Cork and this particular bike seems to be out of stock everywhere. I'm just wondering is anybody else is finding similar supply chain issues with bikes they are looking at.

Dante

Yeah its the same everywhere. Been looking for a half decent entry-level bike around the €1500 mark for the past few months now with no joy whatsoever. Managed to get a very basic Merida Scultura 400 on pre-order thats supposed to come in the next couple of weeks, I'm not holding my breath on that though.

rolling boh

I see the cube 2022 bikes have pictures but group sets blurred so seems you will have a long wait for any decent bike .

oisinog

I ordered a Trek Emonda in January It has finally arrived in Ireland and my LBS are building it at the minute.

JimmiesRustled

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117769999#Comment_117769999

Groupsets are blurred for the top end Shimano equipped bikes as they'll be running the new 12 speed system which hasn't yet been released. Shimano aren't allowing bike manufacturers to display the groupset before they release it as far as I know.

rolling boh

That's fair enough I was told in a shop that they waiting to see what would be available but if its a new set up that properly explains it .

magicbastarder

a colleague was told that Wilier won't have shimano as an option on their 2022 bikes.

Suvarnabhumi

I'm also on the look out for a new bike. When I walk in the door of my LBS, it's usually wall to wall Bianchi Celeste. There wasn't one last weekend. They had a couple in the black colour scheme.

I've been on the hunt since my birthday last year. Half heartedly looked around over the the last couple of months. I saw a Trek a couple of weeks ago with a Tiagra groupset going for 1750. Not that long ago you'd have got full 105 at that kind of price.

grouchyman

Same here. I'll be in the market for a new bike around Christmas but I wouldn't expect to be using it really until March/April when the weather should start to improve. I can't decide though if I should approach my lbs now about ordering one.

As a matter of interest - If I was to look to order one now what kind of amount, percentage wise, would I expect to pay as a deposit?

I've given up on my quest and just put a few quid into the old bike to keep me ticking over for now. In Cork too and looking for an XL frame and I'm finding nothing.

Not sure if it's true, but the mechanic at my local bike shop said there is a huge issue with supply of Shimano components.

CantGetNoSleep

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117771951#Comment_117771951

A friend of mine had ordered a Celeste Bianchi. He was told to expect a 6+ month wait, but after about 4 months they called to just say the order was cancelled, no bike this year

AxleAddict

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117770128#Comment_117770128

Yeah - on the Cube website in the detailed specs, its says this next to each of the affected components:

[This component is subject to an embargo until 31.08.21]

dahat

Shop local to me has a Reacto 6000 in stock. New bikes are extremely slow to come through & I wouldn’t be holding out much hope of getting one anytime soon.

ednwireland

Managed to pick up a 2019 Cannondale synapse di2 in march 2020 tried to get a canyon but no joy seems canyon are the same this year. Did manage to pick up a 2nd hand full sus mtb last week though 😁

cletus

I was contemplating a Canyon Grail in the new year on the cycle to work scheme, do they not have any bikes available?

Actually, anyone have any recommendations for other bikes at that sort of price point?

On the Shimano embargo thats really only going to affect Dura Ace stuff surely? Doubt we'll be seeing 12 speed Ultegra this year, these things normally take a few years to filter down.

As far as I recall supply of that end of the market was ok it was the manufacture of components outside of Japan on the lower end stuff that was the big problem, those factories suffered a couple more covid/lock down related closures this year.

rolling boh

About the cube bikes all the group sets were blurred out on the attain range the ones that usually have 105 so not that high end they were selling for around 1.500 last time

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117780221#Comment_117780221

1599 for a 105 model this time out https://www.cube.eu/en/2022/bikes/road/road-race/attain/cube-attain-sl-rednwhite/

Quite a nice bike in that colour and the tan walls.

rolling boh

Nice looking bike alright good bike for the price I think.

DeepBlue

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117773809#Comment_117773809

Canyon bikes can become available but then sell out very quick - like within 24 hours.

If you know which bike you want you can sign up for email notifications from them for when the next batch of that bike is released and then pull the trigger straight away (if that suits). At least with Canyon you only pay on delivery which should probably give you another month to arrange the finance bits.

cletus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117782465#Comment_117782465

Appreciate that, thanks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117782380#Comment_117782380

Nice bike but the wheels are terrible.

byrnem31

I was lucky last year. Got my defy advanced 2 2020 in may just before it went mental. Cyclesuperstore are good at getting bikes in. Read somewhere its going to be like this till 2023. There are a few decent bikes out there in the 2nd hand market though.

ednwireland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117783499#Comment_117783499

Wheels are normally terrible on new bikes

Peregrine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117773809#Comment_117773809

Yeah, which Grail are you looking at?

magicbastarder

we all know what happens if you choose the wrong grail.

cletus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117783736#Comment_117783736

Canyon Grail 6, preferably in green

CantGetNoSleep

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117783499#Comment_117783499

Cube seem even cheaper than Canyon at the moment but you really need to budget for a wheelset upgrade, whereas the DT Swiss 1850 series that come with a lot of the Canyons are a great entry level model. Particularly for gravel, the Cube Nuroad seems much better value than the Canyon Grail AL, but on last year's models the wheels were not tubeless compatible at all.

loyatemu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117783591#Comment_117783591

in what sense?

(wheels are something I genuinely know very little about - the wheels on my road bike are the ones it came with, I've never even thought about changing them...)

byrnem31

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784202#Comment_117784202

The pr2s that come with giant defy advanced models and some of the cube attain wheels are problematic.

My pr2s gave me trouble from the factory as giant acknowledged there were a batch of models with overtightened rear hubs.

So cheap stock wheelsets on some models of bikes are rubbish. I know with some of the cube models there was a recall on some of the their wheels as they tyres were popping off while cycling.

I have invested in a set of carbons but im still waiting on a replacement rear wheel months now.

cletus

The Nuroad Race looks interesting, same price point, slightly higher spec components than the Grail 6.

The only thing is the weight difference. I'm no weight weeny, but my current bike is nominally 12.2kg, which is on the heavy side. With my next bike I'd like to shed some of that

The Grail is 9.5kg, but the Nuroad is almost a kg heavier, at 10.3kg.

Anyone care to weigh in (pun intended) on the matter

rolling boh

the cube attain i got a few years ago came with rubbish tyres and real entry level wheels got a couple of thousand km on them but true you have to bear that in mind when you buy them good bike overall though . The spokes became loose on the wheels so had to upgrade a bit ,

at1withmyself

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784202#Comment_117784202

There is nothing really wrong with stock wheels but it's the easiest place for a manufacturer to save on costs so they usually fit cheaper wheels. This is generally the case up to the 2000 price point but not always.

Most cheap wheels are just heavier but still solid.

ednwireland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784202#Comment_117784202

It's that they usually put cheap wheels on . Nothing wrong with them just not what you might choose.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784716#Comment_117784716

Exactly this.

The wheels that came with a Cube attain I bought a few years ago were comically bad. Overly tensioned and the nipples kept coming off and the spokes breaking. The tyres were also impossible to remove and replace and I had constant punctures to deal with. Gave up after a few months and spent 650e on new Mavics so a huge consideration if getting an entry level Cube.

How are you planning on getting the Grail under the bike to work scheme I thought it had a hard limit of €1250 for a non ebike.

I'm also looking at getting a bike under the bike to work scheme and something I can stick on the trainer when the weather is bad.

cletus

The hard limit is on the amount of money you get tax relief on. You can add more money yourself to the cost of the bike, but you just pay that straight up. So it'd be an extra €300 out of my pocket.

Multiple posts in the Bike to Work Scheme thread suggest that Canyon are happy to split the bill, sending the initial invoice for the €1250 to my employer, and the remainder to me

fat bloke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117800355#Comment_117800355

Yeah indeed, and there's no need to split the bill like that either I don't think. The bike can be ten grand's worth, it's just the initial 1250 that you get the relief on. It won't be Canyon's first Irish BTW scheme transaction, that's fo dang sho! :)

Wildly Boaring

Ah my Cube Attain carbon came with mavic askiums. For all 105s at €1500 it's about the wheels i'd expect.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117800355#Comment_117800355

 thank you I was having a hard time understanding how the scheme worked I didn't realise you could add money yourself although I'm still not sure because I thought in some circumstances you had to send an invoice to your workplace and get them to buy the bike.

Maybe I'll have to start looking into getting a gravel bike.

cletus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117803138#Comment_117803138

If your company won't allow you to do this, it's down to limitations put in place by the company, rather than the scheme itself

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117803138#Comment_117803138

yes, the bike shop will draw up an invoice for your employer, for the €1250 say, and then you would personally pay the balance of €300 on a €1550 bike. the vast majority of bike shops are happy to split the payment like this.

Passed my LBS yesterday and they had the sign back up to say no bike to work sales. Supply an issue for them again from the looks of it. No idea what they were stocking as it's been so long since I was in with them , I thought Trek and Cannondale and various smaller Italian and complete no name brand bicycle shaped objects like "Ignite"

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117804168#Comment_117804168

Seems like a very poor decision by the bike shop? Even if supply is low, why would they discriminate against those customers who need a bike for work.

magicbastarder

don't some of the BTW middlemen take a cut? so if they have to discriminate between customers, why not discriminate in favour of those from whom they'll be getting the full purchase price?

Squidgy Black

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117805768#Comment_117805768

Also with reduced stock, it's starting to become a first come first served basis too. The BTW can be a bit of a drawn out process with getting an invoice, filing it with the company, waiting for vouchers etc.

Whereas a cash buyer means the stock is gone straight away with no messing about.

Jonesy101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117805768#Comment_117805768

yes they sometimes do. ive heard of shops adding an extra €100 or something to a ctw sale. my company uses https://www.biketowork.ie/ as the middle man for the revenue/government scheme Cycle to Work (confusing!) and we got a €1500 one4all voucher that could only be used in that bike shop, so its essentially giving me 1500 credit to use up. Ive still got some money left in the shop since last year to use but any specific lights or helmet or mudguards i want seem to be sold out :(

thehairygrape

Hope this is ok on this thread. A related problem with supply of bikes is trying to get bikes serviced. Very long waiting list. The lbs I use can’t fit me in until the end of September! Cork based as with some posters here. I really need to start doing my own servicing, but sometimes following these threads is like trying to read Swahili in Braille. Very technical, which is fair enough, but I’m lost😄. Any recommendations re good course, online or otherwise, for a complete novice? Again, if not ok on this thread, no issues.

hesker

Park Tools videos either access through their website or on YouTube.

There are a multitude of other people giving advise also.

Park Tools vids are good because they are succinct. I like Oz Cycles on YouTube for same reason.

thehairygrape

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117809760#Comment_117809760

Many thanks. I’ll check those out.