Speeding

dublin_Horse

Hi.

I was driving on the motorway the other day and realised after I saw a speed van that I was stupidly doing 180km/hr in a 120km/hr zone.

Can I be issued with a court summons if I am caught by a van or do I have to be stopped by a Garda for that?

Thanks!

mikeecho

dublin_Horse wrote: »

Hi.

I was driving on the motorway the other day and realised after I saw a speed van that I was stupidly doing 180km/hr in a 120km/hr zone.

Can I be issued with a court summons if I am caught by a van or do I have to be stopped by a Garda for that?

Thanks!

Just a ticket in the post.

End.

Samuel T. Cogley

dublin_Horse wrote: »

Hi.

I was driving on the motorway the other day and realised after I saw a speed van that I was stupidly doing 180km/hr in a 120km/hr zone.

Can I be issued with a court summons if I am caught by a van or do I have to be stopped by a Garda for that?

Thanks!

Look it you know yourself but watch it doing that speed. You can and eventually will get pulled for dangerous driving and get banned. I'm all for getting a bit of a move on on the motorway but there is a point you become a danger to people overtaking at a more sedate pace.

User1998

Can’t you get a driving ban if your caught going over 160?

Dilbert75

180 in a 120? I'd be keeping a day's holidays for that one.

moby2101

Ticket in the post , 100%

alan partridge aha

Heard of someone doing 200 in a 120, jammed on but cops pulled him in. Gave him a ticket and said if you don't pay it you'll be done for dangerous driving.

Isambard

User1998 wrote: »

Can’t you get a driving ban if your caught going over 160?

Court appearance I reckon.

Leonard Hofstadter

If it's by a camera, though, surely it's just the fine? We don't have any sort of graduated fines that I am aware of.

If it was a Guard fair enough I'm sure they'd do you for dangerous driving as well.

dublin_Horse

I'm all for speeding. I fly about the country at all hours of the day and night and I really do believe you can drive well above the posted limits, safely, if you just pay attention.

However...

dublin_Horse wrote: »

and realised after I saw a speed van that I was stupidly doing 180km/hr in a 120km/hr

There's no way you don't realise you're doing 180km/h. :rolleyes: I taper off at 135km/h as i know anything above that, on the most monitored road network in the country, is silly.

That said, it can go one of two ways for you - i remember being at one of the Garda open days before and they had a GoSafe van there and you could wander around inside and ask questions etc. This was in 2018 or 2019 I'd say.

There was a garda there and he said that the process is not fully automated. There is a Garda that verifies each 'catch' by the van and issues the FCPN. However, apparently, they do have discretion to do you for more than that, if they see a massive speed difference.


I reckon if a roadside Garda caught you at 180 you'd be heading to court (friend of mine got done at 170 in kildare and was dangerous driving, reduced to driving without due care, or careless driving, can't recall the exact name, but it was a day in court and a few hundred as a fine if i recall correctly).

So if the Garda at the Open Day was being honest, i'd say you could well be getting nailed to the wall. You'll definitely get a ticket, at the least, though. Give it a fortnight and see what happens.

Darc19

Camera van records the speed of all motorists. If you are doing 80kmh or 180kmh, it's recorded. That's all the van does and the person in the van is simply monitoring that the equipment doesn't malfunction.

The records are sent to the traffic unit in thurles who issue the tickets based on whatever parameters they decide on (might be all speeds over 135kmh on a dry day)

I don't think that they can do anything more than a ticket as dangerous driving and driving without due care are subjective and would require a Garda to form an opinion based on what they saw.

So definitely a ticket and probably lucky it was a van and not a roads policing unit

mikeecho

Darc19 wrote: »

Camera van records the speed of all motorists. If you are doing 80kmh or 180kmh, it's recorded. That's all the van does and the person in the van is simply monitoring that the equipment doesn't malfunction.

The records are sent to the traffic unit in thurles who issue the tickets based on whatever parameters they decide on (might be all speeds over 135kmh on a dry day)

I don't think that they can do anything more than a ticket as dangerous driving and driving without due care are subjective and would require a Garda to form an opinion based on what they saw.

So definitely a ticket and probably lucky it was a van and not a roads policing unit

Correct

biko

This is why cruise control is your friend.

JeffKenna

Very lucky that was a speed van and not a guard.

AUDI20

Darc19 wrote: »

Camera van records the speed of all motorists. If you are doing 80kmh or 180kmh, it's recorded. That's all the van does and the person in the van is simply monitoring that the equipment doesn't malfunction.

The records are sent to the traffic unit in thurles who issue the tickets based on whatever parameters they decide on (might be all speeds over 135kmh on a dry day)

I don't think that they can do anything more than a ticket as dangerous driving and driving without due care are subjective and would require a Garda to form an opinion based on what they saw.

So definitely a ticket and probably lucky it was a van and not a roads policing unit

I don't think any Garda will have a problem in forming an opinion that doing 180kph is dangerous driving.

Whocare

You be getting a summons at that speed .there no hope that speed gosafe will sent you a fine for speed of 170km +

Whocare

You only need to look on Garda Twitter most of time if get someone going over 160km+ there arrested and done for dangerous driving

2forjoy

I set the car on cruise control and relax.

Vestiapx

Whocare wrote: »

You be getting a summons at that speed .there no hope that speed gosafe will sent you a fine for speed of 170km +

Based on what ? Any chance of substantiaion? While it sounds true I can't find a story of any driver clocked by a gosafe and then summonsed for dangerous driving. I even checked Donegal where the speed corp catch 160kmph + on a weekly bsis and the go safe roam the hills.

GoldFour4

Whocare wrote: »

You only need to look on Garda Twitter most of time if get someone going over 160km+ there arrested and done for dangerous driving

Those tend to be with a Garda vehicle on the road rather than a van though. Don’t think I’ve seen one off the back of a van.

Ash.J.Williams

mikeecho wrote: »

Just a ticket in the post.

End.

180 is over the ticket zone I’d say , I was busted at 160, and the Garda said he had to think about it , and only because my daughter aged 7 fluttered her eye lashes and said “ please don’t send my daddy to jail “ he melted

Whocare

malistheman wrote: »

Those tend to be with a Garda vehicle on the road rather than a van though. Don’t think I’ve seen one off the back of a van.

Yeah Garda pull them over. I be very surprised gosafe/Garda would send out a fine for speed of 170km+

Samuel T. Cogley

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

180 is over the ticket zone I’d say , I was busted at 160, and the Garda said he had to think about it , and only because my daughter aged 7 fluttered her eye lashes and said “ please don’t send my daddy to jail “ he melted

I'm surprised doing a ton with a child in board didnt make him more pissed off tbh.

tea and coffee

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

180 is over the ticket zone I’d say , I was busted at 160, and the Garda said he had to think about it , and only because my daughter aged 7 fluttered her eye lashes and said “ please don’t send my daddy to jail “ he melted

160 with your kid in the car. Eek

Whocare

Vestiapx wrote: »

Based on what ? Any chance of substantiaion? While it sounds true I can't find a story of any driver clocked by a gosafe and then summonsed for dangerous driving. I even checked Donegal where the speed corp catch 160kmph + on a weekly bsis and the go safe roam the hills.

So you really think if gosafe Van clocked you at 180 km you be just getting a fine in post .

Whocare

Whocare wrote: »

So you really think if gosafe Van clocked you at 180 km you be just getting a fine in post .

YES ..... its a fine/ points in the post.
Simple as that........government attempted to introduce ' graduated' penalties but it came to nought. Whether you're doing 10% over the limit or 70% over the limit its the same penalty. As other posters have said its different kettle of fish if physically caught/ stopped by a gard. OP was " lucky" it was a camera van & will hopefully learn that the brakes/ cruise control are not optional extras