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Civil Service - Post Lockdown - Blended Working?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭ TaurenDruid


    What vibes from government? Newspaper reports just the other day (and quoted above) saying we all save money WFH and it's better for the environment!



  • Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭ Kenrach


    Perfect thanks a million



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,274 ✭✭✭✭ The_Kew_Tour


    Wonder would they ever improve our holidays to that in Council?

    We can dream I guess..

    Wonder will Flexi stay same when goes back to 7 hours?

    Lot of wondering today



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,329 ✭✭✭ SouthWesterly


    Those who used work the 7 hours before tell me its easier building up flexi.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭ Gusser09


    If they bring us back anymore than 2 days a week flexi will have to be restored.

    As I've said before I'd happily go back 2 days a week and keep the 7:24 working day.

    It's a serious load of scutter briging people back 4 days a week. I just can't understand the motivation behind it and I think for both the public and private sectors this could become a voting issue for the next election.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,215 ✭✭✭✭ yabadabado


    Much easier work up flexi when it was 7 hours per day .Actually think the day was something like 6.57 or 6.54.


    The extra half hour per day added on under HRA was the same as it took to work up flexi per period.

    When the hours are reduced to 7 per day ,then the flxi will be reduced to working up 10.30 period as well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,329 ✭✭✭ SouthWesterly


    You're right it was 6. 54.

    10.3 flexi is nicer than what we have now



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,500 ✭✭✭✭ Hotblack Desiato


    6.57



  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭ Chaos Black


    With less hours and the same amount of work, how will that work? I don’t have enough time in the week as is!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭ Burgo


    "the Government has chosen to ignore the remote working revolution brought about by the Covid pandemic and instead “simply looked to return to old and outmoded ways of thinking”.

    Definitely the vibe in a few departments!



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭ Dodge


    Correct. 6:57 for government departments. The increased minutes equated to roughly an extra 16 days worked.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭ Gusser09


    As I've said I'd rather 3 days WFH than getting 27mins a day back. It's nonsense.Take a decent pay rise and 3 days WFH if possible.

    I'd also be prepared to forgo being able to build up Flexi Leave for 3 days WFH in return.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭ Burgo


    I wasn't in the CS when it was the old time, but those that were say it was great and are looking forward to it reverting.

    "I'd also be prepared to forgo being able to build up Flexi Leave for 3 days WFH in return."

    I'd forgo flexi if i could work fully remote!

    Sure the framework only states that staff shouldn't work remotely 100%, make your annual trip to the office and thats covered.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭ Gusser09


    Believe me. I was in the CS for 10 year before the extra 27 mins a day was introduced. It's no issue when working from home.



  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭ skidmarkoner


    I'm hoping the pay review increases my salary by atleast 5% otherwise I'll have to start choosing between food or fuel.#Civil service 2022



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭ Gusser09


    Wrong. When it comes to the negotiating table the 3 will be, and should be directly used as bargaining chips.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭ The Mulk


    I'm in the PS, Dublin CC location. We've been told that it will be 2 days in the office and no flexi.(Although it appears, flexible start/finish times).

    If staff want flexi they have to request it in writing and commit to 5 days in the office and return all IT equip issued over lockdown.

    I can't see many people committing to this, although there could be a few



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭ hardybuck


    This is great stuff.

    Perhaps another question is to ask whether line managers are implementing the 'official policy' on WFH. It seems like lots of organisations have publicly indicated an intention to do one thing, but in practical terms this isn't being implemented on the ground.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭ Gusser09


    Oh yeh. I have 7 lads that work to me.


    My line is officially two days in. Unofficially I really don't care as long as the work is getting done and when they are needed in they come in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭ Sarn


    In my case I had already reverted back to pre-Haddington road hours, taking a pay cut. Time is more valuable to me than pay. That means a pay rise for me come July!

    Fortunately we are doing 3 days WFH as well. All I need is flexileave back and that would be perfect. Hopefully the flexileave pilots are rolled out everywhere. The lack of flexileave is a major complaint in our place. We are haemorrhaging staff as we can’t compete with pay and conditions in the private sector.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭ Burgo


    Yeah myself and my line manager work in different offices, we have calls daily. It's very clear neither of us are in the office that much! The work gets done and thats what matters at the end of the day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,500 ✭✭✭✭ Hotblack Desiato




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭ Gusser09


    It'll be at least 5% upfront. Wait and see. Probably another 3 percent then over 3 years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,274 ✭✭✭✭ The_Kew_Tour


    You be hoping that things will be more flexible for everyone.

    Amount of applicants who turned down jobs here was very high.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,171 ✭✭✭ jaffa20


    The increases should be higher for the lower paid, but that won't happen and it will likely be an unnecessary % increase across the board.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭ TaurenDruid


    As has been said, separate issues.

    We can have a pay rise, WFH, flexi, and our 27 minutes back. Dream harder.

    Good idea, will incorporate that one. It'll be tomorrow before I get it done, events overtook me!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,043 ✭✭✭✭ gmisk


    We are definitely not going back full time in my place. Gonna be minimum two days a week...with one "anchor" day....works for me!

    I have been doing for 5ish weeks commute is a pain but face to face meetings on issues have some benefits, I would still say far more productive at home though



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