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Flat tyre on second hand car.

  • 26-06-2021 7:57am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭


    I bought a second hand car last night from a Dealer. The back tyre is flat this morning. I'm in Dublin and a bit unsure what to do now. Do I need to replace the tyre or get it repaired. What price am I looking at (16inch toyota alloys)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭anplaya27


    I bought a second hand car last night from a Dealer. The back tyre is flat this morning. I'm in Dublin and a bit unsure what to do now. Do I need to replace the tyre or get it repaired. What price am I looking at (16inch toyota alloys)

    If just a puncture should be about a tenner for repair in any tyre shop.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Also depends why it's flat. Can you see a nail/screw in it at all? If so, 5 minute job to repair. If not, the wheel needs to comes off so they can find it. If it's a dodgy rim etc, might be a bigger job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭athlone573


    I bought a second hand car last night from a Dealer. The back tyre is flat this morning. I'm in Dublin and a bit unsure what to do now. Do I need to replace the tyre or get it repaired. What price am I looking at (16inch toyota alloys)

    I'd start by asking the dealer to fix it

    Tyres are usually replaced in pairs
    Ring a tyre shop and tell them the size which is written on the tyre (something like 155/55R15 W) from memory somewhere between 50-100 per tyre, 16 inch is relatively small.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Just don't drive on it. There's usually a spare in the boot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    athlone573 wrote: »
    I'd start by asking the dealer to fix it

    Tyres are usually replaced in pairs
    Ring a tyre shop and tell them the size which is written on the tyre (something like 155/55R15 W) from memory somewhere between 50-100 per tyre, 16 inch is relatively small.

    I wouldn't ask the dealer to fix it, OP could have drove over a nail on way home, unless the tyre is dangerous, ie low thread or damaged, then just go to a tyre place and get it fixed, as pointed out, should be a spare in the boot. If the tyre is dangerous, replace it and go to dealer with old tyre and receipt and look for a refund on a new tyre.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭athlone573


    I wouldn't ask the dealer to fix it, OP could have drove over a nail on way home, unless the tyre is dangerous, ie low thread or damaged, then just go to a tyre place and get it fixed, as pointed out, should be a spare in the boot. If the tyre is dangerous, replace it and go to dealer with old tyre and receipt and look for a refund on a new tyre.

    They could have, but that would seem an unlikely coincidence. The dealer may also have sold a car with a slow puncture or leaking valve or just not bothered to pump it.

    If its a main dealer they should be happy to sort it.

    There should be a part of the driving test covering basic maintenance including how to change a tyre,
    I did my test in a country which didn't require it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    Get the jack out and change it FFS. The puncher could of happened anywhere. bring it to a tire shop and get it fixed, simple. If it doesn't have a spare then then call the tire shop to come to you or get a jack from a friend take it off and being it to a tire shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭athlone573


    MAULBROOK wrote: »
    Get the jack out and change it FFS. The puncher could of happened anywhere. bring it to a tire shop and get it fixed, simple. If it doesn't have a spare then then call the tire shop to come to you or get a jack from a friend take it off and being it to a tire shop.

    Check the other tyres while you're at it, I haven't had a puncture in hundreds of thousands of km of driving my own car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    athlone573 wrote: »
    Check the other tyres while you're at it, I haven't had a puncture in hundreds of thousands of km of driving my own car.

    I have had 6 all but one was screws or nails, the one was my dumb ass fault. all changed without drama, done and dusted in less than 10 min.
    Ok it a company van so who cares.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,619 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    MAULBROOK wrote: »
    I have had 6 all but one was screws or nails, the one was my dumb ass fault. all changed without drama, done and dusted in less than 10 min.
    Ok it a company van so who cares.

    And the other four?
    Any van I've driven it's a pain in the bollox to change a wheel especially in you're loaded. ( The van not the driver)


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    athlone573 wrote: »
    Check the other tyres while you're at it, I haven't had a puncture in hundreds of thousands of km of driving my own car.

    I've had 4 punctures this year alone. I put it down to less cars on the road meant higher chance of getting nails/screws etc into the tyres, and more crap on the roads in general


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,426 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    And the other four?
    Any van I've driven it's a pain in the bollox to change a wheel especially in you're loaded. ( The van not the driver)

    I imagine it would be difficult if the driver was loaded, nigh on impossible if it's both van and driver :)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    athlone573 wrote: »
    Check the other tyres while you're at it, I haven't had a puncture in hundreds of thousands of km of driving my own car.

    I said something similar about 2 months ago and had three punctures since.

    It's pot luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,426 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    MAULBROOK wrote: »
    Get the jack out and change it FFS. The puncher could of happened anywhere. bring it to a tire shop and get it fixed, simple. If it doesn't have a spare then then call the tire shop to come to you or get a jack from a friend take it off and being it to a tire shop.

    A lot of cars nowadays don't have spares, just those bottles of tyre repair gunk. I managed 3 years without punctures in the Toyota and once I got the Leaf I had 2 within a year

    Had to change the tyres after the first year I owned it (car was 2 years old, tyres were low on tread when I got it and practically bald after the first year) and then 3 days later I got a nail in the side wall of one of the front tyres and had to change it again :(

    Thankfully I "invested" in cheap tyres, if you don't do high mileage then I don't see the value in going for expensive tyres

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    The OP must have got it sorted, no word back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,619 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    A lot of cars nowadays don't have spares, just those bottles of tyre repair gunk. I managed 3 years without punctures in the Toyota and once I got the Leaf I had 2 within a year

    Had to change the tyres after the first year I owned it (car was 2 years old, tyres were low on tread when I got it and practically bald after the first year) and then 3 days later I got a nail in the side wall of one of the front tyres and had to change it again :(

    Thankfully I "invested" in cheap tyres, if you don't do high mileage then I don't see the value in going for expensive tyres

    Fcukin typical, it would never happen to the kojack tyre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,426 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Fcukin typical, it would never happen to the kojack tyre.

    Forgot to mention, I got a nail in the Leaf after a few months. €10 in the tyre shop for a puncture repair, job done :)

    I think part of it is down to the roads I was driving on. With the Toyota it was M59 and M4, with the Leaf it's M1 and Port tunnel (discount tolls FTW)

    There's a lot more trucks in the tunnel and probably less space for debris to get swept off the road, so 2 nails in the space of 6 months :(

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Cars more or less lying up over the last year have destroyed tyres


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,426 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Cars more or less lying up over the last year have destroyed tyres

    Yep, I think there's such a thing as too little mileage. Unless it's a classic that someone is pouring their heart and soul into maintaining, then seeing a car that only gets driven once a week would probably set off a few alarm bells for me

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    If the inside of the rim is corroded and causing a leak, a good tyre repair shop will sand that down and reseal or whatever they do. Costs about €15


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Vaccinated30


    Thanks everyone, I spent all day yesterday trying to get a mobile unit out to replace the tyre. I have emailed all the big ones as no answer on phones, guaranteed reply in 3 hours. Nothing. People on FB market place who just don't answer after a few messages. I'm still at home with a flat tyre. So frustrating.

    Yes I do have a spare but it's a 17 inch tyre and the rest are 16. It also says temporary all over it so about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    Thanks everyone, I spent all day yesterday trying to get a mobile unit out to replace the tyre. I have emailed all the big ones as no answer on phones, guaranteed reply in 3 hours. Nothing. People on FB market place who just don't answer after a few messages. I'm still at home with a flat tyre. So frustrating.

    Yes I do have a spare but it's a 17 inch tyre and the rest are 16. It also says temporary all over it so about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

    Just put the 17 to the rear and drive it to a tire shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Presumably that's the spacesaver spare wheel you're looking at. It's a lot more useful than you think.
    It's meant for use as a temporary spare so put it on and drive to a tyre centre.
    You say you're in Dublin. There must be several tyre places open on a Sunday. Somebody on here will no doubt know who's open today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,383 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I got a puncture last week. Turns out it was a screw stuck in tyre. The guy who fixed it said its becoming far more common lately, he guessed due to the number of building sites that are open and builders that are back on the road.

    I don't have a spare for my car, but luckily I got a ring air compressor from a bargain alerts a few months ago. Tyre was flat when I came out, was able to pump it for the (happily for me) short trip to tyre guy. Tenner to fix it then...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Vaccinated30


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    Presumably that's the spacesaver spare wheel you're looking at. It's a lot more useful than you think.
    It's meant for use as a temporary spare so put it on and drive to a tyre centre.
    You say you're in Dublin. There must be several tyre places open on a Sunday. Somebody on here will no doubt know who's open today.

    Yeah there's a tyre place 5 minutes walk from my house, will head down woth the spare. I wasn't sure it's safe to drive with it being bigger. Thanks everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    What’s the tyre size of the 17” wheel and what’s the size of the 16”

    What car is it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭athlone573


    If its only 5 minutes walk away ye might be as quick "rolling" the tyre there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭User1998


    OP for future reference its handy to keep a cheap air compressor in your boot that plugs into your cigarette lighter. If you live close to a tyre shop you can just inflate the tyre and drive straight to the shop. I’ve had loads of punctures the past few years and haven’t had to jack the car up once


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Vaccinated30


    User1998 wrote: »
    OP for future reference its handy to keep a cheap air compressor in your boot that plugs into your cigarette lighter. If you live close to a tyre shop you can just inflate the tyre and drive straight to the shop. I’ve had loads of punctures the past few years and haven’t had to jack the car up once

    Thank you, I will do that. Everything sorted there was a tiny tiny hole in the wheel. He said the wheels were new enough and didn't need to be replaced so repaired it. Thanks again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,619 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    30 posts over nothing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    It's actually shocking the amount of people driving that haven't a bull's notion of simple maintenance. Do yourself a favour op when things settle down do a basic car maintenance evening course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    Presumably that's the spacesaver spare wheel you're looking at. It's a lot more useful than you think.
    It's meant for use as a temporary spare so put it on and drive to a tyre centre.
    You say you're in Dublin. There must be several tyre places open on a Sunday. Somebody on here will no doubt know who's open today.

    My new to me A7 has one of these space savers and it's useless to me.

    It's probably fine if you live in an urban area and only do local driving, but most of my trips tend to be 1 hour+ motorway spins.

    The idea of being stuck maybe 90 mins from home some Sunday night and having to crawl home at 80 km/h on a motorway really doesn't appeal. It's as impractical as the 20" alloys the car came with.

    Which is why I'm looking to replace all 4 with 19" equivalents and a fifth for the boot (assuming it'll fit in the wheel well currently occupied by the space saver. I know I'll lose some boot space but I figure it's worth the trade off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Vaccinated30


    It's actually shocking the amount of people driving that haven't a bull's notion of simple maintenance. Do yourself a favour op when things settle down do a basic car maintenance evening course.

    I can do basic car maintenance. I can change fuses, light bulbs, check and fill oil, coolant, screen washer. I can tell you if the clutch is slipping, I even pushed started a Pajero alone while 30 weeks pregnant. I do know how to change a tyre but I never had to before. I cannot however fix a puncture and seemingly the garage cannot either as my wheels flat this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭crossman47


    dulpit wrote: »
    I got a puncture last week. Turns out it was a screw stuck in tyre. The guy who fixed it said its becoming far more common lately, he guessed due to the number of building sites that are open and builders that are back on the road.

    I don't have a spare for my car, but luckily I got a ring air compressor from a bargain alerts a few months ago. Tyre was flat when I came out, was able to pump it for the (happily for me) short trip to tyre guy. Tenner to fix it then...

    I think that's right. I had too recent punctures due to screws and I put them down to the amount of building work going on around my place in the last year.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can do basic car maintenance. I can change fuses, light bulbs, check and fill oil, coolant, screen washer. I can tell you if the clutch is slipping, I even pushed started a Pajero alone while 30 weeks pregnant. I do know how to change a tyre but I never had to before. I cannot however fix a puncture and seemingly the garage cannot either as my wheels flat this morning.

    The back tyre is flat this morning. I'm in Dublin and a bit unsure what to do now. Do I need to replace the tyre or get it repaired. What price am I looking at



    You know your stuff, alright.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    30 posts over nothing...

    did somebody force you to read them ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭paul71


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    My new to me A7 has one of these space savers and it's useless to me.

    It's probably fine if you live in an urban area and only do local driving, but most of my trips tend to be 1 hour+ motorway spins.

    The idea of being stuck maybe 90 mins from home some Sunday night and having to crawl home at 80 km/h on a motorway really doesn't appeal. It's as impractical as the 20" alloys the car came with.

    Which is why I'm looking to replace all 4 with 19" equivalents and a fifth for the boot (assuming it'll fit in the wheel well currently occupied by the space saver. I know I'll lose some boot space but I figure it's worth the trade off.

    I hate those space savers, I had to 40 miles on one once. I honestly think they are unsafe because other drivers by and large have no consideration for your inability to do anything close to a normal speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭xabi


    Is it flat all the way around or just at the bottom?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    paul71 wrote: »
    I hate those space savers, I had to 40 miles on one once. I honestly think they are unsafe because other drivers by and large have no consideration for your inability to do anything close to a normal speed.

    I done 60/70 miles once as I was on the way to friends for a session.

    Not something I'd want to do again.. especially as it also meant 100 back the next day with a hangover..!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    You should sue the garage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭athlone573


    Was the teeny tiny hole in the wheel or the tyre in the end?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,619 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    km991148 wrote: »
    I done 60/70 miles once as I was on the way to friends for a session.

    Not something I'd want to do again.. especially as it also meant 100 back the next day with a hangover..!

    No garages near the sesh or was every tenner accounted for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Thankfully I "invested" in cheap tyres, if you don't do high mileage then I don't see the value in going for expensive tyres

    You don’t want cheap tyres. They are the only thing that connect you to the road. Aqua planning etc is not limited to do cars that do high mileage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    No garages near the sesh or was every tenner accounted for?

    I don't think it was repairable, was on the motorway, while overtaking, took a bit to get onto hard shoulder and if I remember the whole think looked "Fu(led"!

    In hindsight, it probably would have been better to replace the tyre up north (was up there). It was a rental and they charged me anyway of course (although in fairness they sent me to their regular tyre centre and I paid the rate the rental company paid, not full retail, but yeah new tyre before the drive would have been better).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    ted1 wrote: »
    You don’t want cheap tyres. They are the only thing that connect you to the road. Aqua planning etc is not limited to do cars that do high mileage

    Yeah just picked up a used car with no name tyres on the back, need to replace them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    paul71 wrote: »
    I hate those space savers, I had to 40 miles on one once. I honestly think they are unsafe because other drivers by and large have no consideration for your inability to do anything close to a normal speed.

    That's my concern too. Dawdling along at 80km/h on a motorway makes you a rolling roadblock.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    km991148 wrote: »
    Yeah just picked up a used car with no name tyres on the back, need to replace them.


    I do high mileage, and I'll only buy the cheapest stuff I can find as I go through tyres too quickly (which is usually around €60-€70 or so for a new no-name tyre).


    I don't know how other people drive, but I tend to put the boot down and would be fairly lively on the road. I'd rarely ever have an issue with cheapo tyres. There is arguably more grip in the wet with a premium brand, but it's a tiny difference and one that you can adjust for with your driving style easily enough, in my opinion. (cue someone posting the youtube video of stopping distances).


    I've been belting around Ireland at all hours and weather conditions on the cheapest of the cheap for about 5 years now, and never had an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    I do high mileage, and I'll only buy the cheapest stuff I can find

    Haven't all your cars fallen apart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    I do high mileage, and I'll only buy the cheapest stuff I can find as I go through tyres too quickly (which is usually around €60-€70 or so for a new no-name tyre).


    I don't know how other people drive, but I tend to put the boot down and would be fairly lively on the road. I'd rarely ever have an issue with cheapo tyres. There is arguably more grip in the wet with a premium brand, but it's a tiny difference and one that you can adjust for with your driving style easily enough, in my opinion. (cue someone posting the youtube video of stopping distances).


    I've been belting around Ireland at all hours and weather conditions on the cheapest of the cheap for about 5 years now, and never had an issue.


    Possibly similar driving style.. first real test and the traction control light was going bananas.. it is a RWD, maybe a bag of cement in the boot will do it :D



    Will need new tyres for winter so will probably get something better, especially for the back two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I do high mileage, and I'll only buy the cheapest stuff I can find as I go through tyres too quickly (which is usually around €60-€70 or so for a new no-name tyre).


    I don't know how other people drive, but I tend to put the boot down and would be fairly lively on the road. I'd rarely ever have an issue with cheapo tyres. There is arguably more grip in the wet with a premium brand, but it's a tiny difference and one that you can adjust for with your driving style easily enough, in my opinion. (cue someone posting the youtube video of stopping distances).


    I've been belting around Ireland at all hours and weather conditions on the cheapest of the cheap for about 5 years now, and never had an issue.

    I've been using Event tyres for years myself and find them great, even in the wet or on greasy roads.


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