Time to go vegan? They're feeding animals to each other again

FFVII

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/22/eu-to-lift-its-ban-on-feeding-animal-remains-to-domestic-livestock

EU to lift its ban on feeding animal remains to domestic livestock


"to be lifted in the EU to allow cheap pig protein to be fed to chickens over fears that European farmers are being undercut by lower standards elsewhere."

"allowing PAP from pigs and insects to be fed to poultry, the feeding of pigs with chicken PAP, or the use of gelatine and collagen from sheep and cattle being fed to other farmed animals."


Vomit*

Ubbquittious

They feed animals to each other all the time. They import loads of sh1te radioactive fish from the Baltic that they turn into pellets for consumption by farmed salmon thats sold under such happy-go-jolly-go-wholesome brands as the "Irish organic salmon company"

frozenfrozen

Its either put into the burgers or fed to the cows

Why should we be the only animals allowed to eat other animals.......

dxhound2005

The good news is that you can expect to live 10 years longer than when all the food was pure.

to be lifted in the EU to allow cheap pig protein to be fed to chickens over fears that European farmers are being undercut by lower standards elsewhere.

Isnt this food quality thing,essentially what has stalled brexit negociations??


Why slash standerds to compete???....just dont allow lower quality food into the market

A race to bottom,is ultimate in short-term gain for fcuk all long tern benefit

FFVII

Ubbquittious wrote: »

They feed animals to each other all the time. They import loads of sh1te radioactive fish from the Baltic that they turn into pellets for consumption by farmed salmon thats sold under such happy-go-jolly-go-wholesome brands as the "Irish organic salmon company"

linky?

FFVII

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Isnt this food quality thing,essentially what has stalled brexit negociations??


Why slash standerds to compete???....just dont allow lower quality food into the market

A race to bottom,is ultimate in short-term gain for fcuk all long tern benefit

Exactly!

Let the Brazilians fu*k off!

FFVII

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Its either put into the burgers or fed to the cows

Easy to avoid the burgers

Ubbquittious

FFVII wrote: »

linky?

I thnk this is the one

Quantum Erasure

Mad

mickuhaha

There is nothing wrong with feeding animals other animals. The thing is to make sure their diet is balanced and healthy for the animal. You also don't want them eating contaminated foods and remember veg, fish and meat can all be contaminated.

Gregor Samsa

FFVII wrote: »

allowing PAP from pigs and insects to be fed to poultry

Not saying any of this is necessarily right, but chickens eat insects as part of their natural diet. Corn fed chicken is an unnatural abomination.

spindex

Why should chickens be denied the delicious taste of bacon? They have it bad enough as it is, at least let them enjoy some tasty food.

Feisar

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Not saying any of this is necessarily right, but chickens eat insects as part of their natural diet. Corn fed chicken is an unnatural abomination.

And they advertise it like it's a good thing LOL.

Take a lot to convert me away from my meat dishes I am afraid. But I do try to spend as much money on my meat as possible to source it as ethically as possible. Other than that - I am going to keep on keeping on eating it.

Had one day a couple weeks back where I had Steak for all 4 meals in one day. And my breakfast last weekend had a variety of animals all on one plate in one of the best mixed grills ever. Hmmmm garlic infused chicken hearts and kidneys and liver and rashers and sausages and steak and chicken breast and more all on one plate. With a tomato of course.

PARlance

I don't think you're supposed to eat the tomato.

YFlyer

Do they feed animals to cattle?

85603

Deleted User wrote: »

Take a lot to convert me away from my meat dishes I am afraid. But I do try to spend as much money on my meat as possible to source it as ethically as possible. Other than that - I am going to keep on keeping on eating it.

Had one day a couple weeks back where I had Steak for all 4 meals in one day. And my breakfast last weekend had a variety of animals all on one plate in one of the best mixed grills ever. Hmmmm garlic infused chicken hearts and kidneys and liver and rashers and sausages and steak and chicken breast and more all on one plate. With a tomato of course.

Wow. Youre a real badass.

Treppen

PARlance wrote: »

I don't think you're supposed to eat the tomato.

Tomatoes actually are carnivores btw

Capt'n Midnight

mickuhaha wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with feeding animals other animals. The thing is to make sure their diet is balanced and healthy for the animal. You also don't want them eating contaminated foods and remember veg, fish and meat can all be contaminated.

You cannot allow under any circumstances animals that were fed on animals to be fed to other animals.

Otherwise you get a feedback loop which amplifies any disease.

Kuru is 100% fatal and was linked to cannibalism in the 1960's. It has an incubation period of up to 50 years. Prions weren't know about until more recently. Something with those timescales could go unmissed, again.

Capt'n Midnight

Treppen wrote: »

Tomatoes actually are carnivores btw

I know I'm going to miss her
A tomato ate my sister

Gregor Samsa

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

You cannot allow under any circumstances animals that were fed on animals to be fed to other animals.

Plenty of fish, cephalopods and crustaceans that are routinely eaten by humans eat animals that eat other animals (that eat other animals that eat other animals...).

85603

85603 wrote: »

Wow. Youre a real badass.

For having meals?

I never knew the bar was so low

Bobblehats

Does John West do plankton?

Capt'n Midnight

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Plenty of fish, cephalopods and crustaceans that are routinely eaten by humans eat animals that eat other animals (that eat other animals that eat other animals...).

But it's not a feedback loop because there's negligible flow the other way

PainInTheArse

FFVII wrote: »

EU to lift its ban on feeding animal remains to domestic livestock

That's how mad cow disease spread in the UK. Cows were being feed to cows .

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/animal-health-literacy/all-about-bse-mad-cow-disease#:~:text=A%20cow%20gets%20BSE%20by,its%20first%20year%20of%20life.

"A cow gets BSE by eating feed contaminated with parts that came from another cow that was sick with BSE. The contaminated feed contains the abnormal prion, and a cow becomes infected with the abnormal prion when it eats the feed. If a cow gets BSE, it most likely ate the contaminated feed during its first year of life."

mickuhaha

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

You cannot allow under any circumstances animals that were fed on animals to be fed to other animals.

Otherwise you get a feedback loop which amplifies any disease.

Kuru is 100% fatal and was linked to cannibalism in the 1960's. It has an incubation period of up to 50 years. Prions weren't know about until more recently. Something with those timescales could go unmissed, again.

This is an argument about not feeding animals infected food, Which I think is obviously a no no. It's not a reason to not feed animals to other animals. Feeding animals food without testing the food source is always a bad idea. The same for the food we eat.

Treppen

Treppen wrote: »

Tomatoes actually are carnivores btw

They'd bite the head off ya, given half a chance.

astrofool

Deleted User wrote: »

Take a lot to convert me away from my meat dishes I am afraid. But I do try to spend as much money on my meat as possible to source it as ethically as possible. Other than that - I am going to keep on keeping on eating it.

Had one day a couple weeks back where I had Steak for all 4 meals in one day. And my breakfast last weekend had a variety of animals all on one plate in one of the best mixed grills ever. Hmmmm garlic infused chicken hearts and kidneys and liver and rashers and sausages and steak and chicken breast and more all on one plate. With a tomato of course.

So basically, an all-day Brazilian BBQ.

That is now on my bucket list.