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Anyone feel in terms of results the gym is overrated?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 honirelandboy


    AM i reading this right? Someone said walking does not improve your fitness levels whatsoever. Darwin award of the year goes to .....


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    The analyst banned for a week for being horrid

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I don't think he was ever going to listen to an argument that would change his mind, but since he asked...

    From a physique point of view a walk might burn a negligible amount of calories. But a daily walk, for recovery, adds up to a not so negligible amount of calories. Still a small amount of calories in the great scheme of things, but it might be calories being burned in a way that won't upset the rest of your training where the main work is being done. Plently of jacked guys out there not afraid to go for a walk first thing in the morning. If it's good enough for Dave Tate... Walking is one of a few steady state cardio tools he recommends a few times a week.

    There's a broader question of whether getting any form of active recovery improves your fitness. That particular bit doesn't, but what if over time it's part of what keeps you moving? Or what if that stupid daily walk is the beginning of a lifelong devotion to fitness. If you didn't bother because someone on boards.ie told you it was a waste of time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    You can get that physique in 6 months on two low level cycles and a bodybuilding program.
    :pac: :pac:
    I’m sure your Mr Olympia yourself

    In all seriousness. He’s an elite athlete in a particular sport. If he was a massive bodybuilder, he’d be pretty poor at gymnastics.
    How can you build your biceps without weights?

    Chin ups
    Rings
    Bands

    But if your idea of training is bicep curls you probably need to reassess the whole thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Sweet jebus this thread

    PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD

    Please read the basic theory behind progressive overload, no you will not grow your arms, back, legs etc beyond a very small amount without incorporating progressive overload principles.

    Please just look into it.

    Pretty please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Where has anyone suggested you could do it without progressive overload? :confused:

    Would be great if that were true, but alas.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's all better than nothing.

    But I can understand why many wouldn't feel they get value from weights in the gym. If two people do a 10km walk, they just do it. If two people swim ten lengths, they just do it. If two people do pull-ups and ring dips, they just do it. But if two people do the bench press, results could vary widely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,644 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I have a feeling this thread has a lot of people talking about completely different things even without realising it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Mellor wrote: »
    Where has anyone suggested you could do it without progressive overload? :confused:

    Would be great if that were true, but alas.

    Yes there is.

    Read through it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    italodisco wrote: »
    Yes there is.

    Read through it

    TBH, I was hoping you would point to something. Not really arsed reading back through 60 posts of randomness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Mellor wrote: »
    TBH, I was hoping you would point to something. Not really arsed reading back through 60 posts of randomness.

    Ah jesus lol

    I read through all of it last night as I couldn't sleep haha

    Not going there again. But really it was more a case of people making out you could build decent muscle outside the gym. And I know you would be well aware of the limitations on getting big at home without a serious cash investment.

    I'm not saying resistance bands are crap or anything of the sort but it's a serious challenge to get decent size training that way, but It's most certainly better than nothing.

    I think folk really need to understand that it takes longer than they envisage to see results and its not the gym that's letting them down, more their own behaviour and habits.

    I'm heading back next week to train and I've already got doms thinking about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭KurtBarlow



    Most people will have a higher bpm then 100 when walking briskly many will reach 125 bpm

    Also walking is far superior to HIT cardio at the end of a cut down when you are trying go burn that last bit of fat . True 20 minutes of HIT cardio will burn more calories than 20 minutes of walking however HIT is very taxing on the CNS and 20 minutes x3 times on alternate days a week is about the most anyone can do. The EPOC claim about it too is absolute garbage


    With regards walking it's low intensity so there won't be a limit to how much you can do

    It doesnt increase ones appetite like more intensive forms of exercise

    Walking is also releases endorphins so its a great mood enhancer and de-stressor


    So no walking is not useless. Far from it



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