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More than 100 suspect companies are registered at south Dublin home

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,741 ✭✭✭✭ B.A._Baracus


    Bit of a strange one.
    We all know these are dodgy companies being set up but you think the Chinese lad would have been a bit more coy and not register most of them to the one address!

    Apart from the owner finding out you would think having 66 businesses in one address only would set off red flags for cro. Then upon learning more there is nearly 40 businesses on the same street but same eircode :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭ Burkie1203


    Bit of a strange one.
    We all know these are dodgy companies being set up but you think the Chinese lad would have been a bit more coy and not register most of them to the one address!

    Apart from the owner finding out you would think having 66 businesses in one address only would set off red flags for cro. Then upon learning more there is nearly 40 businesses on the same street but same eircode :p

    Cro is a filing repository. Has zero powers. Also, presenters who file on people's behalf often allow their address be used by companies for a fee.


  • Registered Users Posts: 866 ✭✭✭ dam099


    Apart from the owner finding out you would think having 66 businesses in one address only would set off red flags for cro. Then upon learning more there is nearly 40 businesses on the same street but same eircode :p

    Unless they have a a way to systematically distinguish residential from business addresses its not at all unusual to have many companies registered at the same address e.g. at a law firm providing company secretarial services or the HQ of a large group company with many subsidiaries.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    The details uncovered appear to highlight major weaknesses in Ireland’s regime for setting up companies that leave it open to abuse and exploitation by potential fraudsters, including a lack of checks or verification. The Companies Registration Office (CRO) insists its registration system relies on the “good faith” of filers.
    So everything worked well until people decided to start taking advantage of our gullible system.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,161 ✭✭✭✭ Donald Trump


    That's a great bunch of companies at the one address


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,686 ✭✭✭✭ punisher5112


    One would think they could figure out there is an issue after say 5 firms at one address to weed these out....

    I hope the guy has sent them on their way ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭ Burkie1203


    One would think they could figure out there is an issue after say 5 firms at one address to weed these out....

    I hope the guy has sent them on their way ...

    There is formation agents who earn a living from allowing their address to be used, so it's no different really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,904 ✭✭✭ elperello


    They are renting in the owners home so probably licensees rather than tenants.

    Best get rid asap and let the authorities do their job re. the companies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭ Burkie1203


    elperello wrote: »
    They are renting in the owners home so probably licensees rather than tenants.

    Best get rid asap and let the authorities do their job re. the companies.

    The authorities can do nothing. No law has been broken


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭ L1011


    The CRO system is basically the same as the company registration system anywhere else, or stricter than some in terms of requiring info to be made public.

    Its not in any way especially lax. Nobody sane trusts a newly registered company just because its registered.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,904 ✭✭✭ elperello


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    The authorities can do nothing. No law has been broken

    The homeowner has the option of removing the problem from his premises, he should take it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭ Smee_Again


    Happens regularly enough in my experience.

    When working in Croydon we had a number of addresses blacklisted from opening business bank accounts.

    Personal accounts had an automated AML and address check but with business accounts it was manual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭ Burkie1203


    elperello wrote: »
    The homeowner has the option of removing the problem from his premises, he should take it.

    He can remove the tenants but cannot change the company registered office address, only the company officers (director/secretary) can do that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,904 ✭✭✭ elperello


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    He can remove the tenants but cannot change the company registered office address, only the company officers (director/secretary) can do that.

    That's their problem, at least he is no longer worrying about their activities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭ Burkie1203


    elperello wrote: »
    That's their problem, at least he is no longer worrying about their activities.

    I would say their activities involve applying for start up grants for each company.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,904 ✭✭✭ elperello


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    I would say their activities involve applying for start up grants for each company.

    Could they get away with that?

    Either way if I was the house owner I'd want rid.


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