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Hiring a car to drive to Europe

  • 08-06-2021 4:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭


    Is it possible to hire a car, preferably in the west of Ireland to be covered in Europe?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I don't know of any rental that is allowed out of the Republic, even crossing the border some have it as no....


    You will need to try a few and see is there any way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Enterprise do it but there is a hefty price to be paid. Back in the day (over 20 years ago) Eurocar allowed me to take a car from the UK to Ireland and back basically telling me the clue was in the name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭TrailerBob


    It would be cheaper and easier to fly to an airport and rent from there. Obviously it limits what you can bring with you, but extra charges for leaving the state are huge with those that may allow it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    I wonder why is that.
    Most rental companies on the Continent allow to drive abroad free of charge or for a small fee. Mostly all EU countries are allowed and that would include Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I'm guessing it maybe something to do with the cost of insurance here for rental companies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,629 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    It’s simply not worth the hassle. Car rental companies are generally franchisees in most territories, it’s not easy to recover a car in another country even when you can drive there not to mind when a ferry is needed. I remember back when the Icelandic ash cloud grounded flights around Europe that there was a mass migration of rental cars from Southern Europe up to the channel ports. If anything, I suspect that will have tightened up many policies even though they could eventually be transported back relatively easily. Many GB rental agencies restrict travel to NI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    CiniO wrote: »
    I wonder why is that.
    Most rental companies on the Continent allow to drive abroad free of charge or for a small fee. Mostly all EU countries are allowed and that would include Ireland.

    Try bringing a rental into Italy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,717 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Nope. Not done.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    B-D-P-- wrote: »
    Is it possible to hire a car, preferably in the west of Ireland to be covered in Europe?

    Do you understand that there are on generic transport laws in Europe and that as the driver of a rental car you are responsible for ensuring that the car meets the laws in each country you drive through?

    Furthermore as an EU citizen you cannot drive a rental car a cross an EU border without exporting the car out of the EU and into the non EU country.

    Normally when you rent the car you need to tell the company which countries you will visit and they will ensure the car you get complies with the relevant laws.

    For example for a trip through France, Germany and Switzerland, they will ensure the car has the correct emergency equipment required by the French, the correct eco and motorway sticker for Germany and Switzerland and the import duties paid and documents needed to enter Switzerland.

    Depending on which countries you decide to visit it can be expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Water2626262


    Would you consider just buying an old car? Buy an old Corolla with nct for 1500 or less? Gotta be cheaper than what you are proposing.

    Also what the previous commenters said is correct. The likes of hertz here has no connection to whoever runs it in the uk or France. All franchises.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    yeah buy a banger and walk away from it if it breaks down over there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    Do you understand that there are on generic transport laws in Europe and that as the driver of a rental car you are responsible for ensuring that the car meets the laws in each country you drive through?

    Furthermore as an EU citizen you cannot drive a rental car a cross an EU border without exporting the car out of the EU and into the non EU country.

    Normally when you rent the car you need to tell the company which countries you will visit and they will ensure the car you get complies with the relevant laws.

    For example for a trip through France, Germany and Switzerland, they will ensure the car has the correct emergency equipment required by the French, the correct eco and motorway sticker for Germany and Switzerland and the import duties paid and documents needed to enter Switzerland.

    Depending on which countries you decide to visit it can be expensive.


    Import duties?
    That surely doesn't apply to tourists taking a car into a country only temporarily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    CiniO wrote: »
    Import duties?
    That surely doesn't apply to tourists taking a car into a country only temporarily.

    probably true in the case of a hire car as there is a special VRT/VAT arrangement for them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    A major issue from the rental companies point of view would be -

    Right Hand Drive in ROI and UK.

    Left Hand Drive in virtually all the rest of EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    Renting a car in Ireland will cost more than in any other European country, you could fly and rent locally for far less. You'd need to factor in the ferry to France or UK landbridge Ferry & Ferry or Channel Tunnel. Then you would have the obvious drawback and hassle of driving a RHD car from Ireland on the continent. If I was in your situation I'd fly with Ryanair and rent locally or else search donedeal for a LHD car here in Ireland.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars?words=lhd%20left%20hand%20drive&price_to=2000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭A2LUE42


    elperello wrote: »
    A major issue from the rental companies point of view would be -

    Right Hand Drive in ROI and UK.

    Left Hand Drive in virtually all the rest of EU.

    Always great fun overtaking when you are depending on the front seat passenger to tell you if it is ok to go.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Turbolounge


    CiniO wrote: »
    Import duties?
    That surely doesn't apply to tourists taking a car into a country only temporarily.

    Most countries you have 6 months to get it registered if you are not normally resident there. You see cars on middle Eastern and American plates in London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Isambard wrote: »
    yeah buy a banger and walk away from it if it breaks down over there.

    There was a foreign reg car parked for ages in D4 which had clearly been dumped in the manner you describe. The application to either Europol or Interpol, can't remember which, came across my desk much to the amusement of us in the office that it took that sort of application to sort out an old banger. Maybe it's changed with the introduction of SIS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Most countries you have 6 months to get it registered if you are not normally resident there. You see cars on middle Eastern and American plates in London.

    I distinctly remember seeing two Mustangs in Dublin city centre with some sort of middle eastern plates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    I distinctly remember seeing two Mustangs in Dublin city centre with some sort of middle eastern plates.

    I used to see a Kuwaiti registered Peugeot 206 round the IFSC about 15 years ago. Always wondered why they'd bothered


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    McGaggs wrote: »
    I used to see a Kuwaiti registered Peugeot 206 round the IFSC about 15 years ago. Always wondered why they'd bothered

    Possibly an employee of a MNC relocating and shipment of the car was part of the re-location package.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Isambard wrote: »
    yeah buy a banger and walk away from it if it breaks down over there.

    The car will be impounded long before you get to the point of walking away if it fails to meet the traffic laws.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    CiniO wrote: »
    Import duties?
    That surely doesn't apply to tourists taking a car into a country only temporarily.

    Only the register owner of the car can drive it a cross the border. Every year we have newspaper reports of people getting caught doing this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭DubDani


    In the republic it is difficult, but if you really wanted to do it you could go with Europcar in the North. They allow cars to be taken to certain European countries when purchasing the Europdrive pack:

    https://www.europcar.ie/terms-and-conditions/specific-terms-per-country?countrySelector=United%20Kingdom%20TAC

    https://www.europcar.co.uk/services/europdrive

    Actually have done that myself 3 years ago with a Van and it was quite easy and not hugely expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Sixt allow EU cross border but not from Ireland you'd need to be in one of the countries that they do allow it from, which funnily enough usually allows them to come to Ireland.


    Example Belgium
    Territorial restrictions
    The vehicle selection can restrict travel to certain countries. For a description of these restrictions on admission, the countries are divided into three zones.

    Zone 1: Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Great Britain, Ireland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Sweden, Switzerland, Spain and Vatican

    Zone 2: Croatia, Czech Republic*, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland*, Slovakia and Slovenia

    Zone 3: All countries which are not in zone 1 or 2.

    Jaguar, Land Rover, Maserati, Tesla and Porsche passenger cars and all convertibles are only permitted in zone 1.
    Audi, BMW, Volvo, Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen passenger cars are only permitted in zone 1 and in countries marked with * in zone 2.
    Passenger cars of all other makes have access to zones 1 and 2.
    Access to countries in zone 3 is not permitted for any vehicle whatsoever.

    The local transport of the vehicle by ferry is permitted in compliance with the above-mentioned entry restrictions. Damage to the vehicle during the crossing will be covered according to the protection booked in the rental contract.

    In case of offence against cross border and territorial restrictions all insurances lose their validity.

    Extras


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