Sunday supplies

Anyone know of anywhere to pick up a pipe thermostat on a Sunday? Thanks.

Lumen

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/flomasta-03-26-270sx-cylinder-thermostat-230v/6803K

Dtp1979

Lumen wrote: »

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/flomasta-03-26-270sx-cylinder-thermostat-230v/6803K

18 euro. Jesus Christ what a rip off.

listermint

Dtp1979 wrote: »

18 euro. Jesus Christ what a rip off.

Hmm. Does quite an important job. No expensive to me tbh

Thanks all. I found a loose connection after so don’t need it but I hadn’t thought of screwfix at all, good to know.

Dtp1979

listermint wrote: »

Hmm. Does quite an important job. No expensive to me tbh

In a real trade shop you’d get a better one for 9 euro

Dtp1979

listermint wrote: »

Hmm. Does quite an important job. No expensive to me tbh

And no, the gravity circuit does the important job. The stat just turns on a pump

listermint

Dtp1979 wrote: »

In a real trade shop you’d get a better one for 9 euro

You might do. But they also aren't open and so called real trade shops keep ridiculous hours. Note I use them alot and theyre draw backs are telling . Btw Screwfix is a trade shop

myshirt

Dtp1979 wrote: »

In a real trade shop you’d get a better one for 9 euro

Not anymore.

Dtp1979

listermint wrote: »

You might do. But they also aren't open and so called real trade shops keep ridiculous hours. Note I use them alot and theyre draw backs are telling . Btw Screwfix is a trade shop

Lol screw fix is a trade shop for diy dads. Nothing more.

Dtp1979

myshirt wrote: »

Not anymore.

I bought one the other day for €9

Sleeper12

listermint wrote:

You might do. But they also aren't open and so called real trade shops keep ridiculous hours. Note I use them alot and theyre draw backs are telling . Btw Screwfix is a trade shop

I couldn't afford to buy my trade materials from screwfix. They are more like B&Q or Woodies than a trade counter

Sleeper12

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I couldn't afford to buy my trade materials from screwfix. They are more like B&Q or Woodies than a trade counter

But if you’re stuck on a Sunday and it’s the only place that has something then…..

I’m not a tradesperson.

Dtp1979

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

But if you’re stuck on a Sunday and it’s the only place that has something then…..

I’m not a tradesperson.

It’s open sundays. Tradesmen don’t work Sunday’s. But yes, it’s handy if you’re stuck.

XsApollo

Be in and out of screwfix in 2 minutes, the proper trade shops nothing worse than standing there for an hour while everybody has a chat:-D

It’s a Sunday and screwfix is handy. Check online if they have what you want and click and collect.

Dtp1979

Dtp1979 wrote: »

It’s open sundays. Tradesmen don’t work Sunday’s. But yes, it’s handy if you’re stuck.

Any I know work Sundays these days. It’s a gold mine out there.

listermint

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Lol screw fix is a trade shop for diy dads. Nothing more.

Horsehit. Tbf.

Not every shop has best prices on everything nor does your typical trade shops either.

DIY dads shop ...must be odd how there's consistently trade people with branded tops on there then. Once agaim Screwfix would be in a list of places I use.

They actually have quite competitive plumbing items regularly too oddly enough sleeper mustn't be keeping track.

Ive found it extremely common for various sole traders to stick with their traditional 2 or 3 suppliers regardless and rarely shop around or know what pricing changes are going on. Like insurer's. They'll also believe the bar stool stuff like FIAT or Renault are ****e. All the while their local trade place has pushed up the margins.

I shop around for everything and I'm very aware of pricing even against the trade prices of my local spots. It fluctuates. Screwfix is in a list of places that I use and I don't discount them because of barstool stuff. Excuse the discount pun....

stiofan85

DIY dads........ Oh wait, it's the diy forum.

Dtp1979

listermint wrote: »

Horsehit. Tbf.

Not every shop has best prices on everything nor does your typical trade shops either.

DIY dads shop ...must be odd how there's consistently trade people with branded tops on there then. Once agaim Screwfix would be in a list of places I use.

They actually have quite competitive plumbing items regularly too oddly enough sleeper mustn't be keeping track.

Ive found it extremely common for various sole traders to stick with their traditional 2 or 3 suppliers regardless and rarely shop around or know what pricing changes are going on. Like insurer's. They'll also believe the bar stool stuff like FIAT or Renault are ****e. All the while their local trade place has pushed up the margins.

I shop around for everything and I'm very aware of pricing even against the trade prices of my local spots. It fluctuates. Screwfix is in a list of places that I use and I don't discount them because of barstool stuff. Excuse the discount pun....

I can only speak for plumbing fittings, and they are shjte out of screw fix, hence why your common diy dad purchases there, as they know no different.

Dtp1979

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Any I know work Sundays these days. It’s a gold mine out there.

I’m sure there’s some. I don’t know of any myself.

Fils

The Johnny cash dudes work the Sunday, handy top up on the pup for them.

Lumen

Screwfix is a UK company so it's worth understanding how they fit into the UK market.

They have always been DIY oriented. The started out decades ago as a mail order catalogue company for screws, hence the name. In the late noughties they spun up Plumbfix which was trade oriented and was significantly cheaper then Screwfix for the same products, like 10-25%, but it seems to have died for whatever reason. Maybe because professionals don't order parts online.

But there are other more trade oriented online companies like BES which are focused on plumbing and heating supplies in the UK.

In any case, an English friend described Screwfix as "Argos for DIY" which seems about right. rs-online is another like that, British mail order company with a tiny footprint in Ireland.

IMO Screwfix solves a particular problem here because despite being possibly expensive compared to trade prices which are unavailable to DIYers (Heat Merchants, for instance, won't even show prices on their website until you've set up an account, and that requires a company credit check) it still has a better range and lower prices than the likes of Woodies. And don't get me started on the dumpster fire that is my local Chadwicks.

I have my doubts about the survival of Screwfix post-Brexit. Ireland doesn't make sense as a beach head to the EU and all the chaos over deliveries must have made them wonder why they bothered in the first place. Maybe the Germans will step in and save us like they did with the supermarkets.

Anyway, Screwfix works for me. The website is decent, the prices are OK, it's faster to click and collect than any alternatives and their opening hours are handy. I don't do plumbing though, so whatever.

listermint

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I can only speak for plumbing fittings, and they are shjte out of screw fix, hence why your common diy dad purchases there, as they know no different.

You keep saying this as if it's a slur it's amusing though keep going. On what metric are the fittings from Screwfix ****e. Be clearer otherwise you are coming across a tad bar stooley.

salmocab

Fils wrote: »

The Johnny cash dudes work the Sunday, handy top up on the pup for them.

If they are getting PUP surely they’d do cash jobs during the week?

Dtp1979

listermint wrote: »

You keep saying this as if it's a slur it's amusing though keep going. On what metric are the fittings from Screwfix ****e. Be clearer otherwise you are coming across a tad bar stooley.

I’m a plumber by trade for 23 years. I know the difference between a good fitting and bad fitting. They use John guest plastic fitting which are hands down the worst tripe on the market. The compression fittings would collapse if held by a proper grips.

listermint

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I’m a plumber by trade for 23 years. I know the difference between a good fitting and bad fitting. They use John guest plastic fitting which are hands down the worst tripe on the market. The compression fittings would collapse if held by a proper grips.

I've used various of their compression fittings , I've used various compression fittings from heat merchants or tj o Mahoney's. None of them have collapsed.

What's a proper grips. Is your grips a special one no one else has access to. Sort of forged in the mountain of Mordor.

I must go check the 310s I used for the trvs from gunbarrel to make sure they haven't exploded, my weak grips probably didn't quite get the task done.

Dtp1979

listermint wrote: »

I've used various of their compression fittings , I've used various compression fittings from heat merchants or tj o Mahoney's. None of them have collapsed.

What's a proper grips. Is your grips a special one no one else has access to. Sort of forged in the mountain of Mordor.

You wouldn't be using hyperbole to back up you initial points about DIY dads would you ? You know people including trades folk can shop anywhere right ? Screwfix are not adverse to putting your company name on the receipts.

A proper grips like knipex. You’ll find these in the toolboxes of professionals usually. I use fitting on a daily basis, unlike yourself so chances are I’m going to know more than yourself about what a good fitting is. I’ve replaced and fixed a lot of DIY jobs. Homebase, woodies,B and Q and screw fix all use the same cheap brass alloy for brass. You can actually spot these fitting a Mile off. And don’t even start me on those John guest plastic fittings. Even their rip off tec tire fitting are crap. So no, no hyperbole used chief. Just speaking from experience.

listermint

Dtp1979 wrote: »

A proper grips like knipex. You’ll find these in the toolboxes of professionals usually. I use fitting on a daily basis, unlike yourself so chances are I’m going to know more than yourself about what a good fitting is. I’ve replaced and fixed a lot of DIY jobs. Homebase, woodies,B and Q and screw fix all use the same cheap brass alloy for brass. You can actually spot these fitting a Mile off. And don’t even start me on those John guest plastic fittings. Even their rip off tec tire fitting are crap. So no, no hyperbole used chief. Just speaking from experience.

Odd I've a knipex 88 300mm out in the garage there . Personally I don't think theyve made my arms stronger. Granted I've had them 5 years or so but I what would I know.

You perhaps don't know me but I've a penchant for buying tools for task. These were inexpensive at the time not in a kit though.

You shouldn't come on to a DIY forum throwing people down.

Anyway enough willy waving. Trades people shop in Screwfix too was my point . That's the reality . More people should shop around for the right goods at the right price keeps business on their toes.

Dtp1979

listermint wrote: »

Odd I've a knipex 88 300mm out in the garage there . Personally I don't think theyve made my arms stronger. Granted I've had them 5 years or so but I what would I know.

You perhaps don't know me but I've a penchant for buying tools for task. These were inexpensive at the time not in a kit though.

You shouldn't come on to a DIY forum throwing people down.

Anyway enough willy waving. Trades people shop in Screwfix too was my point . That's the reality . More people should shop around for the right goods at the right price keeps business on their toes.

I don’t know one decent tradesman that shops in there because they offer a lower quality product suited to the diy market, for the most part.
Well done on buying a knipex grips. I only said knipex as they hold on to the fitting, unlike spanner’s bought in Lidl for instance. It has nothing to do with strength.

listermint

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I don’t know one decent tradesman that shops in there because they offer a lower quality product suited to the diy market, for the most part.
Well done on buying a knipex grips. I only said knipex as they hold on to the fitting, unlike spanner’s bought in Lidl for instance. It has nothing to do with strength.

So as I said they offer an array of products of differing quality and anyone can shop there including trades people. And they also often beat local places on the exact same products.

So shop around. And trades people shop there even decent ones.

Dtp1979

listermint wrote: »

So as I said they offer an array of products of differing quality and anyone can shop there including trades people. And they also often beat local places on the exact same products.

So shop around. And trades people shop there even decent ones.

A half inch 315 in screwfix is not the same as an instantor 315. And of course anyone can shop there, but decent tradespeople just choose not to, for obvious reasons.

listermint

Dtp1979 wrote: »

A half inch 315 in screwfix is not the same as an instantor 315. And of course anyone can shop there, but decent tradespeople just choose not to, for obvious reasons.

I've stuff to do so Ill leave you off.

All arrays of trades people shop there. Make sure you smirk at the counter when your caught in there in future and remember this thread. x

muffler

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I bought one the other day for €9

Link?

If that’s the sort of thinking you’re likely to come across in a “proper” trade shop then I think I’d be more likely to go to screwfix in future regardless. Anyway, it was a DIY question in a DIY forum - is that poster peeved I didn’t try get a plumber on a Sunday or shut all down and wait for one tomorrow? I could understand that thinking in the plumbing or electrical forum where the back scratching has to happen but no idea why they’re going off in the DIY one.

Fils

salmocab wrote: »

If they are getting PUP surely they’d do cash jobs during the week?

In bed all week, drink the pup in a few days binge.

Fils

muffler wrote: »

Link?

Turning it into a court case now asking for evidence.

Cerco

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

If that’s the sort of thinking you’re likely to come across in a “proper” trade shop then I think I’d be more likely to go to screwfix in future regardless. Anyway, it was a DIY question in a DIY forum - is that poster peeved I didn’t try get a plumber on a Sunday or shut all down and wait for one tomorrow? I could understand that thinking in the plumbing or electrical forum where the back scratching has to happen but no idea why they’re going off in the DIY one.

“That poster” you refer to is a regular poster here offering very good advice to diy’ers as indeed does the other poster. I think you just saw a difference of opinion played out here and L sure that’s what boards is all about …..good advice and commentary. You can make up your own mind from the banter.

Dtp1979

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

If that’s the sort of thinking you’re likely to come across in a “proper” trade shop then I think I’d be more likely to go to screwfix in future regardless. Anyway, it was a DIY question in a DIY forum - is that poster peeved I didn’t try get a plumber on a Sunday or shut all down and wait for one tomorrow? I could understand that thinking in the plumbing or electrical forum where the back scratching has to happen but no idea why they’re going off in the DIY one.

It started out where I was trying to help you save money by going to a proper trade shop where you’d get a better stat for a cheaper price. It was sunny Sunday so I didn’t think you’d need radiators heating.

stiofan85

This thread is a perfect example of what's wrong with a lot of forums. Chap looking for a bit of help turns into a loada tripe. There's a plumbing and heating forum for the "pros", let's keep this forum for the "DIY Dads".

I love screwfix btw, and my local heat merchants, builders merchants and electrical wholesale. I go to whichever one best suits me, especially if I'm doing a bit of DIY on a Sunday.

Guess I'll have to return my Makita though, I'm not a pro, so I'm not licenced to own it apparently. What a shame, I quite like it (and all the other quality tools I've bought over time).

Now, back to doing a bit of DIY while my kids run around the garden. I'm a proud DIY Dad.

Dtp1979

stiofan85 wrote: »

This thread is a perfect example of what's wrong with a lot of forums. Chap looking for a bit of help turns into a loada tripe. There's a plumbing and heating forum for the "pros", let's keep this forum for the "DIY Dads".

I love screwfix btw, and my local heat merchants, builders merchants and electrical wholesale. I go to whichever one best suits me, especially if I'm doing a bit of DIY on a Sunday.

Guess I'll have to return my Makita though, I'm not a pro, so I'm not licenced to own it apparently. What a shame, I quite like it (and all the other quality tools I've bought over time).

Now, back to doing a bit of DIY while my kids run around the garden. I'm a proud DIY Dad.

No one said you couldn’t use a proper drill. Don’t know why you’re even mentioning that. Confusing.
The op came on for help, and I tried to help them. Best of luck with your diy

Cerco

Cerco wrote: »

“That poster” you refer to is a regular poster here offering very good advice to diy’ers as indeed does the other poster. I think you just saw a difference of opinion played out here and L sure that’s what boards is all about …..good advice and commentary. You can make up your own mind from the banter.

There’s good advice and a way of going about it. I hope we aren’t at the days where trades people think you shouldn’t be allowed fix something at home without paying one of them.

Sleeper12

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

There’s good advice and a way of going about it. I hope we aren’t at the days where trades people think you shouldn’t be allowed fix something at home without paying one of them.

This is the total opposite to what actually happened. Dtp1979 is a plumber & he gives his time & knowledge free of charge on the plumbing & DIY forum. If OP had asked how to go about replacing the part then Dtp1979 would have given as much help as possible. He correctly stated that Screwfix is a DIY store & not a trade counter. He pointed out that the part can be sourced cheaper & a higher quality at a real trade counter.


There is nothing wrong with Screwfix. It's grand for the DIY job. Tradesmen don't really use it though. If they did it would be for one off purchases like power tools if on offer.

Sleeper12

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This is the total opposite to what actually happened. Dtp1979 is a plumber & he gives his time & knowledge free of charge on the plumbing & DIY forum. If OP had asked how to go about replacing the part then Dtp1979 would have given as much help as possible. He correctly stated that Screwfix is a DIY store & not a trade counter. He pointed out that the part can be sourced cheaper & a higher quality at a real trade counter.


There is nothing wrong with Screwfix. It's grand for the DIY job. Tradesmen don't really use it though. If they did it would be for one off purchases like power tools if on offer.

The “diy dads” insult and the frequency they used it would suggest the exact opposite to me.

Dtp1979

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

The “diy dads” insult and the frequency they used it would suggest the exact opposite to me.

I’m this day and age I should be more sensitive. Is ‘diy person’ person better?

Fils

Are diy dads allowed wear snickers?

Dtp1979

Fils wrote: »

Are diy dads allowed wear snickers?

Christ no. Against the law actually. Lidl do a work trousers for such needs

Fils

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Christ no. Against the law actually. Lidl do a work trousers for such needs

😂

Dtp1979

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I’m this day and age I should be more sensitive. Is ‘diy person’ person better?

Starting with not telling people to avoid the only place to get something would be a good start. Whatever way screwfix hurt you, if I need something on a particular day, and it’s the only place that has it, then that’s where it needs to be got. To be honest the whole attitude would push me more towards the handy nature of that shop in the future rather than have someone sneering at me in a “proper” trade shop.

Either way I’m just glad I found the dodgy connection the professional tradesperson left and that I was able to tighten the screw all by myself.

ted1

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I bought one the other day for €9

On a Sunday or bank holiday? Time and fuel is money. Sometimes paying 18 is cheaper than paying 9..

the_pen_turner

I would put screwfix somewhere in the lower end of middle. Around the same level as the co ops like arabawn, centenary, dairygold act. Decent stuff but you pay a lot for the convenience
You have the likes of bnq, woodies, wicks , etc below that but they are the only place you will get a sheet of ply at 3 o clock on a bank holiday or a sunday.

Higher middle is more Chadwick, telfords, topline, arrow stores etc. I never seem to get what I want fully in these stores

The higher ones tend to be more local or small with a few shops. My 2 local ones are homevaluè and family owned

listermint

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I would put screwfix somewhere in the lower end of middle. Around the same level as the co ops like arabawn, centenary, dairygold act. Decent stuff but you pay a lot for the convenience
You have the likes of bnq, woodies, wicks , etc below that but they are the only place you will get a sheet of ply at 3 o clock on a bank holiday or a sunday.

Higher middle is more Chadwick, telfords, topline, arrow stores etc. I never seem to get what I want fully in these stores

The higher ones tend to be more local or small with a few shops. My 2 local ones are homevaluè and family owned

Chadwick's and Topline will take your arm off with your hand though.