Travelling to Scotland via NI - non-EU passport?

theguzman

Me and my wife are planning to take a driving holiday to the Scottish highlands for a week or 10 days maybe around the end of July.

Our options would be Belfast to Cairnryan with Stena Line or Larne to Cairnryan with P&O Ferries. Altenatively we could go via Dublin - Wales but crossing the North Channel is the most direct route into Southern Scotland, thus our preference for the route.

It is still in the early stages of planning but what I am wondering is what is the procedure for my wife travelling on a non-EU passport? She has Permanent Residency of Ireland (Stamp 4) and her Residency Card also. She is non-Visa required for the UK, and normally would get a 6 month permission stamp at Heathrow before we married.

When we would go to the North should we go to a UK immigration office (Belfast) to stamp her into the UK? Does she require a stamp any more as the wife of an Irish citizen with Permanent Residency?

As Belfast-Scotland is an internal ferry we don't want to get hauled in over at a Scottish port and be accused of her illegally entering the UK? We have often gone to the North before for day trips or a few nights but this would be different as apparently there is sometimes randomised checks at the scottish ports and a Irish reg car may attract attention.

LMHC

theguzman wrote: »

Me and my wife are planning to take a driving holiday to the Scottish highlands for a week or 10 days maybe around the end of July.

Our options would be Belfast to Cairnryan with Stena Line or Larne to Cairnryan with P&O Ferries. Altenatively we could go via Dublin - Wales but crossing the North Channel is the most direct route into Southern Scotland, thus our preference for the route.

It is still in the early stages of planning but what I am wondering is what is the procedure for my wife travelling on a non-EU passport? She has Permanent Residency of Ireland (Stamp 4) and her Residency Card also. She is non-Visa required for the UK, and normally would get a 6 month permission stamp at Heathrow before we married.

When we would go to the North should we go to a UK immigration office (Belfast) to stamp her into the UK? Does she require a stamp any more as the wife of an Irish citizen with Permanent Residency?

As Belfast-Scotland is an internal ferry we don't want to get hauled in over at a Scottish port and be accused of her illegally entering the UK? We have often gone to the North before for day trips or a few nights but this would be different as apparently there is sometimes randomised checks at the scottish ports and a Irish reg car may attract attention.

I was on the route recent and wasn't even ID checked on either side.

theguzman

LMHC wrote: »

I was on the route recent and wasn't even ID checked on either side.

This is the reason I am actually concerned!

LMHC

theguzman wrote: »

This is the reason I am actually concerned!

Why would you be concerned if they don't check ID.

theguzman

LMHC wrote: »

Why would you be concerned if they don't check ID.

I wouldn't want it to be accidentally construed as an illegal entry to the UK and act as a black mark on her record.

Vic_08

theguzman wrote: »

I wouldn't want it to be accidentally construed as an illegal entry to the UK and act as a black mark on her record.

If she is not legally entitled to be in the UK there would be nothing accidental about it, you would be intentionally breaking the law.

My advice would be to look up what is required for visitor entry to UK for her nationality if you haven't already and if unsure contact UK embassy in Dublin, if needed they should be able to arrange the proper paperwork in advance of your trip and you won't be spending your holiday wondering if your OH will get in trouble.

I am just wondering is it a good idea for you to travel with your wife considering the marital issues ye are having?

I’m just thinking of her, it wouldn’t be fair for her if she is left stranded in the middle of the Scotland highlands considering her visa situation?

RStoneX

theguzman wrote: »

Me and my wife are planning to take a driving holiday to the Scottish highlands for a week or 10 days maybe around the end of July.

It is still in the early stages of planning but what I am wondering is what is the procedure for my wife travelling on a non-EU passport? She has Permanent Residency of Ireland (Stamp 4) and her Residency Card also. She is non-Visa required for the UK, and normally would get a 6 month permission stamp at Heathrow before we married.

Stamp 4 like any other stamp is TEMPORARY as such, has an expire date.

The only way to be a permanent resident in a country is when you have citizenship therefore, do not rely on visas.

Get your story right first op...

Can't stand the c*w: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058182911

Will buy a car for the sponge: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=117247169

Glad you and the missus worked things out and that ye figured out how she needed a visa to live here.....

killbillvol2

RStoneX wrote: »

Stamp 4 like any other stamp is TEMPORARY as such, has an expire date.

I suspect the missus has figured this out, hence the reconciliation.

@guzman

@guzman if you do decide it’s better to not risk bringing her maybe you should go yourself anyways, the break away from this country which you hate and despise so very much (along with all its people) will do you good. You can continue to collect your benefits before and after your trip

dory

Locking this thread as it has served its purpose and has taken a very strange turn.