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Quality power bank - 20,000mah and fast-charging

  • 26-05-2021 10:55pm
    #1
    Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭


    works out about 22 euro delivered

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000191871773.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3a4a4c4doRyhkW

    (order shipping from Germany or Poland or Spain / Belgium after that)

    I got it in a week from the Germany shipping.

    - 20,000 Mah - real-world 70 WattHours output (14,000 Mah at 5v phone voltage)
    - very light at 350g or so for this capacity and not big and cumbersome
    - up to 18W output (e.g. 9V / 2A) AND same 18W input charging (on usb-c) so charges pretty much twice as fast as at 5V / 2A
    - usb-c, 2 USB A, apple lightning
    - can charge up to 3 devices at once (18W total output of course)
    - digital display shows % charged, input or output in Volts and Amps

    Have this and it's much better than the larger, heavier and slower-charging (input and output) power banks that you'd get would get at this price and with digital readout


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Have 2 of these and don't need another but of course I went and bought a third, will probably give away my other one's, handy for camping and the likes...

    Nice one Glasso... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭absolutegroove


    Ordered it last night and I just got notified it has been shipped from Germany.

    I really need a decent powerbank so I’m looking forward to using this.

    Thanks OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I see there are even 50,000, 80,000 and 99,000mah ones for around similar price, will there be an issue with certain ones coming from certain places? One even has a solar charge capabilities on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    I see there are even 50,000, 80,000 and 99,000mah ones for around similar price, will there be an issue with certain ones coming from certain places? One even has a solar charge capabilities on it.

    They are fake, a power bank this size will be around 20,000

    Solar one will also either be completely fake or completely pointless as a panel that size would barely power the charging LED, never mind charge a power bank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    They are fake, a power bank this size will be around 20,000

    Solar one will also either be completely fake or completely pointless as a panel that size would barely power the charging LED, never mind charge a power bank

    Oh I get the part with the solar as it's so small was just wondering on the battery size, seen a few there and the case is double the size.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,025 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    I got one of those fake 10000mah solar ones :pac:
    It does not work as a solar charger.
    However it is a power bank, substantially less than the advertised capacity, cost e7 from China.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    "Buliding my dreams" does not instil confidence however...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,527 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    thanks OP , you would think there are so many power banks that 1 person would need. I don't know that number yet :pac:


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doodah7 wrote: »
    "Buliding my dreams" does not instil confidence however...

    Jesus, red flag.

    I sent mine back when I saw that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,887 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    So selected white, Germany and qty of 2 and it asks for Please provide the missing information first

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭honda boi


    I see Germany must be out of stock.
    Tried to order 2 but kept telling me oops something went wrong..
    Went back to the link and Germany is greyed out now.
    I see Poland is an option. Safe from there or is there a reason Germany is the one we pick?


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So selected white, Germany and qty of 2 and it asks for Please provide the missing information first

    none left in Germany

    Try a different location


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,887 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    glasso wrote: »
    none left in Germany

    Try a different location
    Thanks tried them all, may be the Mac software

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks tried them all, may be the Mac software

    There is an app also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    White is showing as available for me from France and Spain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    Thanks OP ordered blue one from CR


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    They are fake, a power bank this size will be around 20,000

    Solar one will also either be completely fake or completely pointless as a panel that size would barely power the charging LED, never mind charge a power bank
    +1

    Ignoring inefficiencies 20,000mAh would need 20A hours x 4 volts to charge it = 80 watts hours.

    So a 20 watt panel x 4 hours facing direct sunlight in a cloudless sky. And lithium batteries don't like the heat. And it's cloudy in Ireland most of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Movie Maestro


    Will this charge a Pixel 3a, I think they require Power Delivery, this charger mentions PD, is that the same thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Sidford


    Ordered one of these about 2 months, came broken. Would not recommend it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,559 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    glasso wrote: »
    works out about 22 euro delivered

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000191871773.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3a4a4c4doRyhkW

    (order shipping from Germany or Poland or Spain / Belgium after that)

    I got it in a week from the Germany shipping.

    - 20,000 Mah - real-world 70 WattHours output (14,000 Mah at 5v phone voltage)
    - very light at 350g or so for this capacity and not big and cumbersome
    - up to 18W output (e.g. 9V / 2A) AND same 18W input charging (on usb-c) so charges pretty much twice as fast as at 5V / 2A
    - usb-c, 2 USB A, apple lightning
    - can charge up to 3 devices at once (18W total output of course)
    - digital display shows % charged, input or output in Volts and Amps

    Have this and it's much better than the larger, heavier and slower-charging (input and output) power banks that you'd get would get at this price and with digital readout

    Would that work as a battery backup for a laptop which has a usb-c port?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    After Brexit you can't get power banks off Amazon.co.uk anymore.


    So I paid €45 at Harvey Norman for an Adata with QC 3.0 and USB-C and a digital battery readout last weekend. Can verify the QC does register as "fast charge" on a Samsung Galaxy and you can fast-charge it up. Too bad the thing is nearly the size of a laptop brick!

    This looks as good spec-wise so if the QC works and it's smaller that would be great even if the capacity isn't as high as advertised.

    Thanks OP!


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Would that work as a battery backup for a laptop which has a usb-c port?

    no.

    you need 45W output typically for that.

    costs about 40 to 50 euro for one of those

    e.g. mi power bank 3 pro

    https://www.xiaomi.ie/xiaomi-mi-3-pro-45w-20000mah/


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sidford wrote: »
    Ordered one of these about 2 months, came broken. Would not recommend it.

    well my one came from Germany in a week and works brilliantly :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,559 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    glasso wrote: »
    no.

    you need 45W output typically for that.

    costs about 40 to 50 euro for one of those

    e.g. mi power bank 3 pro

    https://www.xiaomi.ie/xiaomi-mi-3-pro-45w-20000mah/

    That looks the business


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭marrm


    glasso wrote: »
    works out about 22 euro delivered

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000191871773.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3a4a4c4doRyhkW

    (Which is www . aliexpress . com/item/4000191871773.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3a4a4c4doRyhkW )


    (order shipping from Germany or Poland or Spain / Belgium after that)

    I got it in a week from the Germany shipping.

    - 20,000 Mah - real-world 70 WattHours output (14,000 Mah at 5v phone voltage)
    - very light at 350g or so for this capacity and not big and cumbersome
    - up to 18W output (e.g. 9V / 2A) AND same 18W input charging (on usb-c) so charges pretty much twice as fast as at 5V / 2A
    - usb-c, 2 USB A, apple lightning
    - can charge up to 3 devices at once (18W total output of course)
    - digital display shows % charged, input or output in Volts and Amps

    Have this and it's much better than the larger, heavier and slower-charging (input and output) power banks that you'd get would get at this price and with digital readout

    Actual URL for the item is

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001294911152.html

    So the top URL must refer to the sales lead, commission etc?? :confused::confused::confused:


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    After Brexit you can't get power banks off Amazon.co.uk anymore.


    So I paid €45 at Harvey Norman for an Adata with QC 3.0 and USB-C and a digital battery readout last weekend. Can verify the QC does register as "fast charge" on a Samsung Galaxy and you can fast-charge it up. Too bad the thing is nearly the size of a laptop brick!

    This looks as good spec-wise so if the QC works and it's smaller that would be great even if the capacity isn't as high as advertised.

    Thanks OP!

    capacity seems to be as advertised

    of course all powerbanks are rated at 3.6/ 3.7 V

    so 20,000 Mah is 20 AH so

    20 AH x 3.6 V = 72 Watt Hours

    20,000 Mah at 3.6V is about 14,000 Mah at 5V (voltage of phone or tablet)

    Does indeed also charge and output at 18W (9V at 2A, 12V at 1.5 A) instead of the normal 5V at 2A = 10 W

    in fact it's reported that it can output at 12V at 2A = 24W from a review that I saw

    max charging it tho is 18W

    by the way the efficiency is less the higher the output charging

    e.g. might be 93% at 10W, down to 90% at 18W


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    marrm wrote: »
    Actual URL for the item is

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001294911152.html

    So the top URL must refer to the sales lead, commission etc?? :confused::confused::confused:

    I just copied the link from chrome when I was logged into Ali - no affiliate on my part anyways unless inserted by some extension on Chrome

    judging by the pent-up powerbank demand and the amount of people who seemed to buy from boards it I wish I that I had an affiliate link tho!

    logged in again and recopied it -

    this is what I get

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000191871773.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.544a4c4d1IjE4i


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    glasso wrote: »
    I just copied the link from chrome when I was logged into Ali - no affiliate on my part anyways unless inserted by some extension on Chrome

    judging by the pent-up powerbank demand and the amount of people who seemed to buy from boards it I wish I that I had an affiliate link tho!

    logged in again and recopied it -

    this is what I get

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000191871773.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.544a4c4d1IjE4i


    Doesn't look the same product either


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mightyreds wrote: »
    Doesn't look the same product either

    yeah what the other "poster" posted is a different product (inferior)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭marrm


    glasso wrote: »
    yeah what the other "poster" posted is a different product (inferior)

    You're right, my mistake, sorry. :(:(

    Available again from Germany.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    if anyone has an Ali account and you copy a link of any item at all in your order history ("my orders" section) of items it seems to add on an extra string - not sure what it is but (unfortunately for me in this case) it's not an affiliate kickback link!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    glasso wrote: »
    no.

    you need 45W output typically for that.

    costs about 40 to 50 euro for one of those

    e.g. mi power bank 3 pro

    https://www.xiaomi.ie/xiaomi-mi-3-pro-45w-20000mah/

    Is that website legit?


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is that website legit?

    seems so yes

    https://ie.trustpilot.com/review/xiaomi.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,863 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Is that website legit?

    Dropshipper from wherever...


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Dropshipper from wherever...

    quick delivery reports make that seem unlikely

    Dublin Address listed

    Contact Info
    Register Office:
    JAV ELECTRONICS LTD,
    77 Camden Street Lower
    Dublin 2
    Ireland
    D02 XE80

    May not be official official Xiaomi but if the prices are acceptable to the buyer seems ok


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,863 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    glasso wrote: »
    quick delivery reports make that seem unlikely

    Dublin Address listed

    Contact Info
    Register Office:
    JAV ELECTRONICS LTD,
    77 Camden Street Lower
    Dublin 2
    Ireland
    D02 XE80

    May not be official official Xiaomi but if the prices are acceptable to the buyer seems ok

    Definitely not an official site

    That's a virtual address - not a real business address
    Quick check on reviews and EU plug supplied so...


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    1 report of European charger

    several reports of next-day delivery after order which is not possible if shipped from outside Ireland


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    company is also registered with the Irish companies office since 2017

    https://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Company/Jav-Electronics-Limited-614777


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    Got this today .. very fast shipping...its charging now but looks good build quality

    No manual in the box...anyone knows how the common input/output ports work and what is the button do ?


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    button just turns on display (which comes on anway when charging in or out)

    usb a ports always for output only and 5v 2A (10W)

    usb c for fast charging input or output (up to 9V 2A or 18W)

    lightning for 5v 2A charging input or output

    micro-usb for 5v 2A input


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭GY A1


    Cheers glasso
    Ordered last Friday
    Arrived today from Poland.
    Quick turnaround as estimated delivery was going be Monday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    So I paid €45 at Harvey Norman for an Adata with QC 3.0 and USB-C and a digital battery readout last weekend. Can verify the QC does register as "fast charge" on a Samsung Galaxy and you can fast-charge it up. Too bad the thing is nearly the size of a laptop brick!

    This looks as good spec-wise so if the QC works and it's smaller that would be great even if the capacity isn't as high as advertised.

    Received already today from Germany (has selected Czech Rep as Germany button was disabled at time of ordering). Very happy to report it also fast charged my phone. Was able to fast charge it as well. Little read-out is neat it displays the voltage and amps. Pretty much the same size (140x68x28cm) and weight as the more expensive one from Harvey Norman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,025 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    This one says it is 30000mah too, d'ye think it's true? :P
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002549716062.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Got mine today, no idea why I ordered one really. Anyway, it's a lovely shade of green. Does it ever get to 100 when charging, or is 99 the most it gets to?

    Ordered mine from Poland, but came from Germany. Just nice to be able to order something on AliExpress from Europe to be delivered here, so many items have multiple countries as options and none post to Ireland.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭SourSessions


    Got mine today, no idea why I ordered one really. Anyway, it's a lovely shade of green. Does it ever get to 100 when charging, or is 99 the most it gets to?

    Mine (also green) went to 100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Mine (also green) went to 100

    Thanks, I had it in my head I waited a lot longer for it to go from 99 to 100 but I think it was probably my imagination, I'll try again in the morning.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wouldn't get obsessed if the reading only goes to 99 instead of 100 unless you have really bad OCD tbh

    It will work fine at 99


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Debub


    So I guess folks here are recommending this - should I or shouldn't I :-)
    I have only ever used Anker power banks (2) - but lost the main one recently, have a smaller one - but due to Amazon not delivering power banks anymore, looking for an alternative


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    glasso wrote: »
    Wouldn't get obsessed if the reading only goes to 99 instead of 100 unless you have really bad OCD tbh

    It will work fine at 99

    Haha, that's another thread entirely... 1,2,3,4.


    Oh and thanks for the clarification of what port does what. (and your initial post too)

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Davexirl


    I ordered one this morning from the Czech Republic.

    Thanks OP.


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