Yep 4 weeks
Ireland has been really performing well these last 3weeks, better than any country in Europe. We have 5% of adult population getting their first dose every week, we will probably be at 85% end of July. Give it 2weeks for the doses to kick in and mid-august we should see the number of cases plummeting in the 20s-30s cohorts
People are not very optimistic with the Delta variant, but every day we are reducing the network of possible hosts for the virus. What will happen when it will have reached all the teens and < 25s and it has nowhere new to go ?
Thanks, wanted to reconfirm as hse isn't the best for updating information.
He was hoping to get Pfizer all along so this threw him, had no research done. Too late to look for a new appointment on the portal.
They're exceptionally similar vaccines.
Done in Citywest this morning. 27yo.
Absolutely rammed. Great system though.
Anyone that has a vaccine appointment there go earlier 😅
Seems to really flying along, people in their early 20s getting appointments right left and centre next week. Hoping we'll reach 6 million doses in less than 2 weeks time. We'll exceed the UK's % vaccinated soon, if not already.
Anyone know where I can get a plastic holder for my vaccination card?
Got the first Moderna shot a few hours ago. Feel completely fine so far. Some initial stiffness and shakiness in the arm I got it in, but nothing I would even notice if I wasn't looking for side effects.
Centre was run very efficiently. Glanced at their appointment sheet and it looks completely full for the day. Marshalls at every corner to point you in the right direction (it looks like they're employing a lot of young people to do this, which is great to see). Staff all seemed to be in a very good mood. Bottles of cold water being handed out to people in anticipation of the heat today.
Nurse was very thorough in explaining potential side effects and how best to manage them (main advice was to drink a lot of fluids). Didn't even feel the needle go in. Was out 15 minutes later.
I hope it works.
IT article states: “Negotiations on extra vaccine purchases from other EU countries, like Romania, are ongoing”
Was this not first announced 3 weeks ago? What sort of intricate negotiations have been going on in the meantime? We will have the population vaccinated by the time these negotiations are completed...
Got 2nd Morderna yesterday....23mins from walk in to walk out, including the 15min monitoring....extremely well organised...letterkenny. feel like I've been hit by a fleet of buses now though....itll be worth it 👍
pfizer & moderna are virtually the exact same
Don't those vaccines have an expiry date in the short termish future too?
They must be planning to jab the secondary school kids throughout August with the Romanian jabs to prevent disruptions to the school year. If one kid got Covid would the rest of the class have to self isolate at home?
Not to be excessively doom and gloomy, because I also fully believe we are in the end stages of the pandemic, at least in countries with high levels of vaccination. Once all adults and teens are done, the virus can and will still circulate among children. And for as long as such a large unvaccinated section of the population still exists, there is still some degree of risk, especially to those with compromised immune systems who rely on herd immunity. Hopefully at least one of the vaccines will be found to be safe for 5-12 year olds in the very near future because it really would be ideal if we could get children vaccinated in early winter.
Age 29, registered for Pfizer first dose last Friday the 16th, got my text Saturday the 17th. Vaccinated this morning in MTU Cork, all done within a six day period, not a bad service. No symptoms as of yet so hopefully that continues!
I was in and out of the centre in 25 minutes, and that includes that 15 minute observation period.
What would you have had them do back in April/May ? Stop jabbing until everyone got Pfizer/Moderna ? How many weeks/months/lives would that have cost us ? They could have kept the dosage gap at 4 weeks for AZ, but the longer gap was shown to give better efficacy and the thoughts at the time were that it was better to have more people partially protected. Hindsight is great and the Delta has changed things but the advice that the best vaccine is the first one you're offered was and is still true.
It was wrongly reported that the Romanian vaccines are due to expire soon, but it seems it's months away in fact. They must be confident enough of getting their hands on sufficient vaccines in coming weeks (from whatever source) given that we are now vaccinating 60k people a day.
Not sure if I've missed someone running the numbers, but we must surely be down to the last couple of weeks of 18+ first doses.
We're at 3.02m with at least one dose as of yesterday, out of 3.8m. 90% uptake is 3.42m, 95% uptake is 3.61.
30k first doses/day would get us there in 13 days/20 days respectively, i.e. 3 Aug/10 August.
Even 90% seems like a quite optimistic target.
Not sure what we'll do with the Janssen that's arriving later in August. It's no use to people with one dose of something else.
They will go to the Covax fund and will be distributed to lower income countries
There is a chance that spare Janssen in a few months will be used as a booster for those who got mRNA vaccines 9-10 months before and would be at the highest risk - but that will require EMA/ECDC etc approvals and recommendations
Giving the opposite type as the booster is being kite-flown at the moment.
The UK? 🤣
But it's still generally considered a no-no approach
People have short memories, there was considerable debate back in April re use of AZ and clots, supply issues etc. The HSE/ Government decided to press ahead and use it on one specific age cohort of the general population. Varadkar and Coveney and others stated to the concerned 'Take it or go to the back of the queue' https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40267394.html
Apart from the known issues re clots and supplies, the 3 month gap between doses was known.
We didn't have the 'Delta variant' then but this is of course just a moniker for the Indian variant and the rising catastrophe in India was well understood and widely reported then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_India_(2021)
There were concerns about a variant that would spread more quickly and/or evade vaccines.
Despite this, the HSE/ Government adopted a strategy that left people in their 60s exposed. It's as simple as that. I have cousins and siblings who were all fully vaccinated several weeks ago. When I mention that I've caught Covid, their response and from others in that that sort of middle aged group is one of 'Oh, well sure you're vaccinated and all, so should be no issue'. Because that is their experience. When I add whilst I cough, well actually I only got the first vaccine and obviously that only offers partial protection, they are surprised as they all the media messaging is that the vaccine programme worked from older age groups downwards.
So yes, the HSE/ Government should have applied the same vaccine strategy to citizens in their 60s as they have largely applied to all over 70s and all under 60s.
One dose of AZ was incredibly effective against severe disease in the case of the original virus as well as pre-Delta variants (more effective than one dose of Pfizer). Given the stocks that were available at the time, my view is that it was the right call made at that time. Obviously, if the Delta variant had been rampant back in March, the government would have reached a different decision (particularly on spacing between doses).
I’m not quite sure what point you are trying to make in your post. Hundreds of thousands of young healthcare workers as well as people in their sixties received AZ in Ireland and I suspect the vast majority are grateful they did. Millions of people received it in the U.K. Public Health England studies show that AZ and Pfizer offer very similar levels of protection against hospitalisation once two doses are received. What more do you want? No vaccine can prevent the sniffles. And no country has had a perfect rollout.
The last update on that was that the HSE had begun their due diligence process.
What's that? It's the part where you bring in specialist auditors to validate that the cold chain for the vaccines that Ireland is buying, has adhered to regulations and is unbroken. This involves inspecting the facilities and the records for every location these batches have been and making sure everything is above board. If these batches have been moved (e.g.) between five different storage facilities, but one of these facilities doesn't have the correct controls in place or can't produce detailed records for the batches' time in that facility, then the whole lot of them are only fit for the bin.
So as you'd expect, this is a painful process that takes some time.
Yeah it all seemed to be going quite well until the verification and logistical aspects got under way which seem to have hit some snags according to today's HSE press conference, they must be seeing something that they don't particularly feel comfortable with
Do we have any indication as to how many mRNA vaccines are actually coming through every week? There seems to be a hell of a lot, given that the portal has already been opened to 18 year olds plus and it's still only July 22nd.
I had AZ back in April in the 60+ bracket . I was over the moon to get it and even more pleased when they moved it to an 8 week gap and I got my second dose in June instead of July
My friends were all really pleased to get it in April . I only know one who moaned constantly that her husband got Pfizer and she got AZ . Still not sure what her gripe was and I blanked her whining after a while !
My daughter got AZ in the UK in a pop up centre in April . She got word anyone could queue for one as they were in a high case area . She could get her shoes on quick enough to run down for her AZ vaccine !
This sounds a bit Captain Hindsight doesn't it? I don't remember anyone in the groups who were offered the extremely scarce vaccines turning it down. At the time, a single dose of AZ was more than adequate for coping with the most prominent variant at that time, Delta didn't emerge until much later in the year.
If we had to re-do it knowing what we know now, there probably isn't a lot which we would have done differently.
Sounds like good news:
"There were 70 deaths confirmed between 13 May and 13 July, of which 41 were among unvaccinated people (59%), 17 among partially vaccinated (24%), and 12 among fully vaccinated (17%).
Dr Henry said of the fully vaccinated people who have died, all were aged over 65. Two people died more than 14 days after being fully vaccinated."
So only two people that were fully vaccinated died in the last 3 months both above the age of 65.
I see a lot of fully vaccinated people are in hospital now with covid. Strange times