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Nomadland

  • 30-04-2021 11:09am
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    Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭ sporina


    watched Nomadland during the week - lovved it.. a feast for the heart and soul as well as the eyes.. wudda loved to have seen it in cinema.. the soundtrack was bang on too.. felt almost transcendental at times.. and there wer so many scenes that tugged hard at my heart strings... it reminded me of the book Grapes of Wrath and the movie Into the Woods.. McDormand was 1st class.. fair play to The Oscars for honouring this one.. and I didn't know she co produced it too.. hats off to her!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,318 ✭✭✭ chrislad


    This seems to have been released on Disney+ overnight, so I'll give it a go this evening!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭ flasher0030


    sporina wrote: »
    watched Nomadland during the week - lovved it.. a feast for the heart and soul as well as the eyes.. wudda loved to have seen it in cinema.. the soundtrack was bang on too.. felt almost transcendental at times.. and there wer so many scenes that tugged hard at my heart strings... it reminded me of the book Grapes of Wrath and the movie Into the Woods.. McDormand was 1st class.. fair play to The Oscars for honouring this one.. and I didn't know she co produced it too.. hats off to her!

    Seems like you are on a one man quest for putting some positive into Nomadland. I presume it was you who posted something similar a few days ago. Same lingo in the other post anyway.
    Seems you're in the minority with favourable reviews. Everyone I know who have witnessed it seem to slate it.
    Would you call it an "arty" movie where it can be hit and miss?
    I saw the film 3 Billboards outside Missouri, and whilst that was a tad slow, I thought it was brilliant. Is Nomadland something similar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭ sporina


    Seems like you are on a one man quest for putting some positive into Nomadland. I presume it was you who posted something similar a few days ago. Same lingo in the other post anyway.
    Seems you're in the minority with favourable reviews. Everyone I know who have witnessed it seem to slate it.
    Would you call it an "arty" movie where it can be hit and miss?
    I saw the film 3 Billboards outside Missouri, and whilst that was a tad slow, I thought it was brilliant. Is Nomadland something similar.

    Eh.. no... not on any type of quest - I was just loved it.. found it v heart warming..

    I wouldn't compare Nomadland to 3 Billboards at all.. 3 Billboards is more of a black comedy - this is not.. its a docudrama of sorts. using unprofessional actors.. some of the actors are portraying their actual lives in the movie.. and its basically about loss and survival.. the only thing the 2 have in common is Frances McDormand!

    I wouldn't use the word "arty" but its not mainstream if thats what you mean.. more of an independent type of film..

    Sure like everything in life - what one might love another might hate and vice versa


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭ DaSchmo


    I wouldn't be in a rush to watch that again - Frances McDormand's performance was good and some of the shots were great but I found it quite plodding and was checking how long was left on it for the last half an hour or so wishing it to be over. Very depressing film too - just looking at Fern would get you down!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭ sporina


    DaSchmo wrote: »
    I wouldn't be in a rush to watch that again - Frances McDormand's performance was good and some of the shots were great but I found it quite plodding and was checking how long was left on it for the last half an hour or so wishing it to be over. Very depressing film too - just looking at Fern would get you down!

    twas sad for sure she and the others had lost so much - but she found her way in the end - (comfort in their shared struggles) - like they did.. a new sense of identity - I found it v endearing/inspiring..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭ The Princess Bride


    I liked it, it almost felt like a documentary however, not a film.
    I really like Frances McDormand, and she was very good in this.

    I'm glad I've seen it, but it's not the sort of film I'd imagine most would relish watching again and again.
    In my opinion, for what it's worth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,389 ✭✭✭✭ NIMAN


    Could it be the most boring film ever to win Best Picture Oscar?

    Doesn't say much for cinema if that was the best film of the year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,604 ✭✭✭✭ Beechwoodspark


    Watched it last night. Bit meh


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,243 ✭✭✭✭ breezy1985


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Could it be the most boring film ever to win Best Picture Oscar?

    Doesn't say much for cinema if that was the best film of the year.


    Havnt seen it yet but couldnt be worse than Moonlight


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭ Purple Mountain


    Watched it last night. Bit meh

    Where can one see it? I think I'd like it.

    To thine own self be true



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭ sporina


    I liked it, it almost felt like a documentary however, not a film.
    I really like Frances McDormand, and she was very good in this.

    I'm glad I've seen it, but it's not the sort of film I'd imagine most would relish watching again and again.
    In my opinion, for what it's worth.

    yeah its a documentary/drama..

    oh there are v few movies i would watch again and again.. but that's not a reflection of how good/bad a movie is, for me.. there are just so many movies to see I wouldn't have the time or inclination.. covid or not lol

    I would however like to see this again but on a big screen.. the scenery and soundtrack wer soo good.. imo


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,230 ✭✭✭✭ retalivity


    watched it with my oul fella a few weeks back. Its boring enough, but McDormand does put in a great performance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭ pale rider


    retalivity wrote: »
    watched it with my oul fella a few weeks back. Its boring enough, but McDormand does put in a great performance.

    Put my wife to sleep...then to bed early, I stuck with it and regret that.

    Fine performance by leading actors but it’s a no from me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭ Xaniaj


    Where can one see it? I think I'd like it.

    It's on Disney+


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,960 ✭✭✭✭ dark crystal


    I was so looking forward to watching this as Frances McDormand is, in my humble opinion, one of the top three actresses working today. But, my God, it was so dull and pointless.

    Fine performances all round I guess, although nothing really happened. Like, nothing.
    Now, I don't necessarily need a strong plot, a scintillating storyline, or an interesting payoff (although at least one out of those three would be nice), but sweet Jesus, a film about a woman driving around in a van, working banal odd jobs and standing around talking to other people who drive around in vans - well, that's literally it. The most exciting scene was when the main character took a funny turn and had to sh*t in a bucket.

    Not a strong year for films generally I guess, but this one certainly won't be going down in the annals of Oscar history as one of it's best.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭ sporina


    I was so looking forward to watching this as Frances McDormand is, in my humble opinion, one of the top three actresses working today. But, my God, it was so dull and pointless.

    Fine performances all round I guess, although nothing really happened. Like, nothing.
    Now, I don't necessarily need a strong plot, a scintillating storyline, or an interesting payoff (although at least one out of those three would be nice), but sweet Jesus, a film about a woman driving around in a van, working banal odd jobs and standing around talking to other people who drive around in vans - well, that's literally it. The most exciting scene was when the main character took a funny turn and had to sh*t in a bucket.

    Not a strong year for films generally I guess, but this one certainly won't be going down in the annals of Oscar history as one of it's best.

    oh gosh - didn't you watch the trailer etc before watching it?

    Sounds like you wer expecting something like Fargo or 3 Billboards, just cos Frances McDormand was in it - ekk


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,960 ✭✭✭✭ dark crystal


    sporina wrote: »
    oh gosh - didn't you watch the trailer etc before watching it?

    Sounds like you wer expecting something like Fargo or 3 Billboards, just cos Frances McDormand was in it - ekk

    I did watch the trailer, yes. However, trailers only contain excerpts, so it's hard to gauge an entire film from a 30 second trailer. I generally really enjoy slow-paced 'slice of life' movies, I just happen to think this particular one was dull and pointless.

    Fargo and Three Billboards were completely different films, so I've no idea why you'd think I expected Nomadland to be similar based on the actress alone. That's like watching 'Sophie's Choice' and expecting it to be something like 'The Deer Hunter' because they both star Meryl Streep :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭ sporina


    I did watch the trailer, yes. However, trailers only contain excerpts, so it's hard to gauge an entire film from a 30 second trailer. I generally really enjoy slow-paced 'slice of life' movies, I just happen to think this particular one was dull and pointless.

    Fargo and Three Billboards were completely different films, so I've no idea why you'd think I expected Nomadland to be similar based on the actress alone. That's like watching 'Sophie's Choice' and expecting it to be something like 'The Deer Hunter' because they both star Meryl Streep :confused:

    The trailer is only 1 long but perfectly reflects the movie.. so what wer you expecting??

    And, absolutely - they are completely different movies.. but the fact that you said "I was so looking forward to watching this as Frances McDormand is, in my humble opinion, one of the top three actresses working today. But, my God, it was so dull and pointless" - made me wonder if you expected something like them.. ??

    Pointless? gee.. no.. far from it.. guess it wasn't your cuppa.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,258 CMod ✭✭✭✭ johnny_ultimate


    Liked it a lot, without quite loving it.

    Had been primed to expect some misery/poverty porn, but honestly don’t think it fits into that category. There’s a strong sense of defiance and even satisfaction from a lot of the people in the film. Sure they have tough moments and in many ways have been left behind by society, but there’s also a sense that they’ve chosen this nomadic life which is a strong counterpoint. It doesn’t wallow in misery, instead giving us an unsentimental look at the highs and lows of life on the road. The ‘it’s pro-Amazon!’ arguments strike me as unconvincing after watching the film - Zhao shows how these corporate jobs are a part of these characters’ lives, while also touching on the wreckage corporate America leaves in its wake. But I think a polemic is not the film she’s trying to make here; she’s much more concerned with the rhythms of these people’s everyday lives.

    The American landscapes look great here obviously, but in a way that I think serves the point above. These are often frosty, desolate locations... but by the same token they’re also often beautiful and enticing. The cinematography doesn’t have the sheer lyricism of say a Terrence Malick film, but it does split the difference between that and documentary-style realism to frequently fetching effect. There’s a sequence of McDormand wandering through a house at the end which uses shadow and light alone to tell you everything you need to know about a big decision she’s about to make.

    That said, there are moments when the style doesn’t quite gel together. I really admire the film giving the real life nomads so much space - indeed, the most impressive thing about McDormand’s performance is how she tones it all the way down to give them space while also hinting at her character’s own hopes, traumas and history. But there can be a hint of sterility to Zhao’s style at time, albeit one bit unique to this film: it’s something that crops up a bit in rural American dramas featuring non-actors. Still, it works overall, but sometimes in a way that left me at a remove of sorts. The film is quite tame and mild-mannered - sometimes to its benefit, sometimes to its detriment. It lacks the punch of Varda’s Vagabond - a great film that covers fairly similar ground.

    Impressed on the whole, like I was with The Rider a few years back. There’s a few films I’d probably have liked to see sweep the awards season above or at least alongside this, mainly because I think Never Rarely Sometimes Always and First Cow were criminally overlooked. But certainly happy to see Zhao rise rapidly up the ranks: she’s made another confident, thoughtful film here and I hope against hope some of that can come through as she gets caught up in the MCU machine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,253 ✭✭✭✭ branie2


    It's on Blu-ray as well


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭ sporina


    @johnny_ultimate

    Yes McDormand is exceptional - she's such a big star but didn't overshadow the other characters/real life actors at all... instead she totally blended in with their tone - allowing solitude/providing support as required.. taking the space and pace that the movie required.. well - no surprise she co produced it..

    Loved The Rider - yes I look forward to Zhao's next piece of work..


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭ Rfrip


    I found this incredibly boring.
    I wonder would I felt different had I seen it in the cinema.

    I doubt it. Music was gorgeous though


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,680 ✭✭✭✭ murpho999


    Just watched it and really liked it.

    I do not understand the boring complaints or "nothing happens".

    For me it's a film about society, relationships, human spirit and decisions. Not every film has to have action or fast moving plot.

    I found it to be a nice, and often sad, human story, nicely told with a great performance from Frances Mc Dormand, but also by the other cast members and I was impressed by the non-actors.
    I also loved the cinematography and soundtrack.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭ Outkast_IRE


    I liked this film but i did not love this film.

    I will never feel the urge to go back and watch again. Frances was her usual brilliant self in a role with very little meat to it.

    To me it probably is overall the best film in what i would consider a relatively weak field this year. Its an interesting insight into modern day nomadic culture in the USA driven by recession and necessity. The cinematography is accomplished, its decently edited and has no major flaws. The only thing many will consider a flaw is the lack of a traditional narrative structure, there is little story to be told here. Its more of a look at somones life for a year.

    A 7/10 for me . Worth a watch but you need to be in the right mood for it. This isnt edge of your seat entertainment or storytelling at its finest. Its an interesting , well produced , well directed insight with no fleshing out of the story, no traditional beginning , middle and end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭ Cal4567


    Touched a vibe for me. Travelled across America and saw many examples of people just like this. Really enjoyed the film. In a quiet year, probably the best film I've seen.

    Not a lot happens but it's a bit like a documentary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭ soap1978


    Why does most films that win Oscars are rubbish,this is complete rubbish, everything about it,has to be a much better movie then this


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭ Outkast_IRE


    soap1978 wrote: »
    Why does most films that win Oscars are rubbish,this is complete rubbish, everything about it,has to be a much better movie then this
    Parasite last year was a deserving winner .

    Not being smart here . But what was better in the last year .

    In my opinion my film of the year is Another Round , and that was in the best foreign film category.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,056 ✭✭✭ Tipsy McSwagger


    soap1978 wrote: »
    Why does most films that win Oscars are rubbish,this is complete rubbish, everything about it,has to be a much better movie then this

    Everything about it, so that includes Frances McDormand’s performance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,680 ✭✭✭✭ murpho999


    soap1978 wrote: »
    Why does most films that win Oscars are rubbish,this is complete rubbish, everything about it,has to be a much better movie then this

    Well done, good argued points about the move that are expressed eloquently and given me a lot to think about.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,056 ✭✭✭ Tipsy McSwagger


    It was a good movie but depressing. Hard to feel much sympathy for the main character as she wasn’t very likable.

    Why could they not just give the Oscar to Soul? About time an animated film won it.


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