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Is PHEV a reasonable choice in rural Ireland to replace a diesel?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭turnfan


    Stay with your current car until a BEV meets your needs. Save all those repayments in between to get the BEV you like, when the time comes.

    What's with this "start your electric journey" it's Toyota's marketing jargon to get you to part with cash now for a hybrid.

    Rural Ireland has the space for solar and home chargers, the pity is the cars will be at work during the day, so unless you could solar charge at work - you'd have to buy 2 BEVs and use on alternate days :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    jeremyr62 wrote: »
    I have a 2021 Golf ehybrid with a claimed 13kWh battery. I can barely scrape 50km on the battery alone and that is in Summer driving with a limp right foot. When I got it in January it was about 40km. Not what I expected but the car is pretty good otherwise so I'll forgive it.

    I've a 2021 GTE, which is less efficient and I've no trouble getting at least 50km off a charge. My average for the last few weeks has been ~55km. Though I usually toss it in Eco mode once I'm up to speed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭jeremyr62


    PaulRyan97 wrote: »
    I've a 2021 GTE, which is less efficient and I've no trouble getting at least 50km off a charge. My average for the last few weeks has been ~55km. Though I usually toss it in Eco mode once I'm up to speed.

    Less efficient how? You have a more powerful electric motor but that's it AFAIK. I would expect the GTE and the eHybrid to get similar range which they appear to when you take into consideration driving styles. Can't say I ever use ECO mode. Maybe I'll give that a go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    jeremyr62 wrote: »
    Less efficient how? You have a more powerful electric motor but that's it AFAIK. I would expect the GTE and the eHybrid to get similar range which they appear to when you take into consideration driving styles. Can't say I ever use ECO mode. Maybe I'll give that a go.

    Well the car is a bit heavier than the eHybrid, plus I've some options that reduce the efficency, 18" alloys, sunroof etc. If I remember correctly I think the eHybrid gets nearly 10km more electric range under WLTP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭butrasgali


    ineedeuro wrote:
    I seen one lad who had a black one and he had tried to black out the Skoda writing

    ineedeuro wrote:
    I expect you are talking about the Kodiaq? awful interior compared to the Tiguan and whoever came up with the idea of writing Skoda in big letter across the back should be shot.


    The superb would be a big brother to the octavia..just goes to show ,some people don't know the difference between a car and a suv..the skoda is a much better car than the vw .IMO


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  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭butrasgali


    Lantus wrote:
    Even if you save 30 a week that's 1500 a year so 4+ years to break even and that excludes any elec costs and higher interest repayments. It's aspirational and you would have to be militant about charging and not just get lazy.

    Lantus wrote:
    Best use for phev is to give extra fun for a nice boost. Because if you can afford 48k on a car you really don't need to 'save' money.

    Lantus wrote:
    For a phev. It's 6500 More than auto petrol and 7k more than the 2l diesel.


    I bought a superb phev 6 months old ,40 k..equivalent diesel was exactly the same price..the phev had a sunroof and more importantly dcc,,so it was a no brainer for me.im currently getting 75 mpg,which is great and it's an animal to go..


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭butrasgali


    I did have the choice of 2 6 month old superb sportlines..bother 40 k..1 diesel and the phev..I went for the phev..sunroof and dcc were on the phev..and it's lovely to drive..75 mpg at the moment 😀


  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Squeaksoutloud


    Looking at XC40 but prob holding off due to finances. Was looking at the price list and the PHEV seems to be well priced versus the equivalent auto diesel model. With 0% and the grant until end of June..as well as a good lounge pack with sunroof I'd be all over it. But that's just because I want one and will be looking at changing an aging diesel V40.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    Just because a similar petrol or diesel is cheaper does not mean that 4 years down the road they will both be worth the same.

    Depreciation will be a similar % drop on both.

    Take the e- niro, 40k for the EV version and the plug in niro is 33k , in 4 years time both will only be worth half of the original price


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    butrasgali wrote: »
    The superb would be a big brother to the octavia..just goes to show ,some people don't know the difference between a car and a suv..the skoda is a much better car than the vw .IMO

    Well I would call the Superb a bigger brother but that’s why I said “I expect”

    I am not surprised a Skoda owner says they are better then VW, I also see Skoda owners say they are better than Audi.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,833 ✭✭✭daheff


    kaahooters wrote: »
    a phev is perfect for that, 30 - 35km runs with a longer run on weekends.

    your mad if you think there not.

    Agreed 100%.

    Bought one for just this reason.

    Precovid I had a 35km each way journey to work. I could recharge at work.

    Petrol engine only used for longer trips at the weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭butrasgali


    All good surveys tell you which are better, between the vw family..


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    I have a PHEV, picked it up first week of March. Since then I have filled the tank only 4 times, twice for 400km journeys. I drive average of 25km per day so it is costing me buttons to run a heavy 4x4 on its EV charge. With reduced tax/VRT, it is a no brainer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    butrasgali wrote: »
    I bought a superb phev 6 months old ,40 k..equivalent diesel was exactly the same price..the phev had a sunroof and more importantly dcc,,so it was a no brainer for me.im currently getting 75 mpg,which is great and it's an animal to go..

    I went investigating prices yesterday on the Skoda Ireland website. A diesel one similar to the one I own at the moment is €38,400. But a PHEV one is €48,200. Too much of a hike to justify buying one. I can't understand how you say they were similar prices.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭Lantus


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    Well I would call the Superb a bigger brother but that’s why I said “I expect”

    I am not surprised a Skoda owner says they are better then VW, I also see Skoda owners say they are better than Audi.

    Some say comparable to a 5 series.....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Lantus wrote: »
    Some say comparable to a 5 series.....

    :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭butrasgali


    Have a look on done deal..I counted about 10 superb ,diesel and phev on it..some of the phevs are cheaper than the 2 litre diesels..I've always had a diesel, last car was the scout..so when I saw the 2 at identical priced cars sitting in the forecourt..the extras in the phev swung It for me..


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭butrasgali


    The price for the diesel sportline superb is about 45 grand on the website..not sure what model you are pricing at


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    butrasgali wrote: »
    The price for the diesel sportline superb is about 45 grand on the website..not sure what model you are pricing at

    I see the Skoda supporters club has moved across to the Electric car forum.
    Just a question, has the OP at any stage mentioned they would like a Skoda? especially a car to replace a Crossover when most people never move back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭butrasgali


    OK point taken,..the vw group do have a great range to choose from ..hybrid or electric..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭Kramer


    batman1 wrote: »
    Is PHEV a reasonable choice in rural Ireland to replace a diesel?

    I'm still of the view that a PHEV can work well. A BEV can work equally as well & there's more choice becoming available every day.
    The other option, which no doubt some of the more radical environmentalists would prefer, would be 100% use of public transport or even to suggest you move to a city & rent an apartment & bicycle :pac:.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,590 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    butrasgali wrote: »
    The price for the diesel sportline superb is about 45 grand on the website..not sure what model you are pricing at

    I'd want the estate and that's coming in 53 grand. Your well into Enyaq money then. I don't see how a phev competes


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭Lantus


    butrasgali wrote: »
    Have a look on done deal..I counted about 10 superb ,diesel and phev on it..some of the phevs are cheaper than the 2 litre diesels..I've always had a diesel, last car was the scout..so when I saw the 2 at identical priced cars sitting in the forecourt..the extras in the phev swung It for me..

    If it's no more expensive.....

    Some depreciation if it's fallen 6k below the price of it's cheaper ice equivalent,?!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭butrasgali


    Yes,I think they were overpriced in the 1st place..250 only Brought into the country last year,I'd say they had to drop the price to sell them..


  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    The price for the Superb PHEV is pre-grant, take €5k off the listed price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    PaulRyan97 wrote: »
    The price for the Superb PHEV is pre-grant, take €5k off the listed price.
    I copped that since Paul, I hadn't thought of it the other day. Thanks. Is that grant finishing this year did I read somewhere anyone?


  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    finbarrk wrote: »
    I copped that since Paul, I hadn't thought of it the other day. Thanks. Is that grant finishing this year did I read somewhere anyone?

    Pretty sure it's going down to €2500 from the start of July, some dealers are advertising that you should "head on down now" so they can get you the full €5k.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    Another put off if they are going up by €2,500.


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