Hole in horn butt

jaginsligo

Hi,
First year really been in charge as uncle passed away in January. I got a couple of fresian yearlings to keep the grass down this year & to see how they go. One had horns so got him skulled, he's all healed now (done about 3 weeks ago) but I notice that theres a hole in the but of the horn & assume in the hot weather flies are going to enter & do what flies do
Is there anything I can pack this with or some kinda sealant? Something from the vet?
Is it best to put on now or wait for the "summer"
Thanks

Mooooo

Put on some spot on or some form of fly repellent in the normal place along the back. Could put some Stockholm tar around the area, not in it also. It will cover in time, I wouldnt go packing it with anything myself just keep an eye on it

148multi

Put butox in a circle on the hair around the horn, whatever the dose is per animal, put that amount per horn.

jaginsligo

Mooooo wrote: »

Put on some spot on or some form of fly repellent in the normal place along the back. Could put some Stockholm tar around the area, not in it also. It will cover in time, I wouldnt go packing it with anything myself just keep an eye on it

Does it need it now or only for summer months?
How long would the tar last before it needs renewing?

Bass Reeves

If he skulled three weeks, it should be well healed up. Main thing is keep an eye on it. Not many flies around yes. Nights are too cold.

You can get sprayable Stockholm tar. Spray that on the horn area it will stop any flies. Some lads put sudo cream in the hole it prevents flies getting in there. However the sprayable tar will do the business

jaginsligo

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If he skulled three weeks, it should be well healed up. Main thing is keep an eye on it. Not many flies around yes. Nights are too cold.

You can get sprayable Stockholm tar. Spray that on the horn area it will stop any flies. Some lads put sudo cream in the hole it prevents flies getting in there. However the sprayable tar will do the business

Thanks for the help guys

grassroot1

Its not easy being responsible for livestock you will find your feet after awhile.
The only advice I would give is this, if the animal is not actually sick it is fine.
If it is eating, sh1ting and p1ssing its ok (mostly)
If an animal is sick ring your vet and talk to them.
Try not to meet trouble halfway.

jaginsligo

grassroot1 wrote: »

Its not easy being responsible for livestock you will find your feet after awhile.
The only advice I would give is this, if the animal is not actually sick it is fine.
If it is eating, sh1ting and p1ssing its ok (mostly)
If an animal is sick ring your vet and talk to them.
Try not to meet trouble halfway.

Good advise, for 5 bullocks for 1 month I have a bad run, 3 got a touch of pneumonia & one of them had redwater yesterday, so it's been a baptism of fire

148multi

jaginsligo wrote: »

Good advise, for 5 bullocks for 1 month I have a bad run, 3 got a touch of pneumonia & one of them had redwater yesterday, so it's been a baptism of fire

Redwater would be unusual this time of year, especially with frost.

carrollsno1

jaginsligo wrote: »

Good advise, for 5 bullocks for 1 month I have a bad run, 3 got a touch of pneumonia & one of them had redwater yesterday, so it's been a baptism of fire

Neither the best nor the biggest can control disease worms or tick. The Overlanders in Australia had close on 7 million acres at one stage and several thousabd head of cattle but they still got hardship with Redwater too when they moved West from the Eastern States.

funkey_monkey

Vet does our dehorning. Sometimes as you said the removal leaves a hole. Vet has never been concerned about this. They cover the hole with aluminium spray. It will cover up naturally in a few weeks.
The main concern they have is with bleeding if the veins aren't dealt with properly.
You are doing the debudding at correct time of year when flies are low.
Keep an eye on them and as long as they are not rubbing them then it will be okay.

In regards to the pneumonia, and I presume these are bought in calves, then you can get a nasal spray from vet or suppliers to give them the minute they arrive. That will help prevent it.

jaginsligo

148multi wrote: »

Redwater would be unusual this time of year, especially with frost.

I know, that's why it caught me on the hop & they were in the"good" half of the land

jaginsligo

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Vet does our dehorning. Sometimes as you said the removal leaves a hole. Vet has never been concerned about this. They cover the hole with aluminium spray. It will cover up naturally in a few weeks.
The main concern they have is with bleeding if the veins aren't dealt with properly.
You are doing the debudding at correct time of year when flies are low.
Keep an eye on them and as long as they are not rubbing them then it will be okay.

In regards to the pneumonia, and I presume these are bought in calves, then you can get a nasal spray from vet or suppliers to give them the minute they arrive. That will help prevent it.

Every day is a school day at the moment. Never knew about nasal spray. Yes they are bought in yearlings

Next year I'll be better prepared

greysides

jaginsligo wrote: »

..... I notice that theres a hole in the but of the horn & assume in the hot weather flies are going to enter & do what flies do
Is there anything I can pack this with or some kinda sealant? Something from the vet?
Is it best to put on now or wait for the "summer"
Thanks

Do nothing. Just keep an eye on it. If there's no blood and no pus there's nothing to attract flies.

Bass Reeves

jaginsligo wrote: »

Every day is a school day at the moment. Never knew about nasal spray. Yes they are bought in yearlings

Next year I'll be better prepared

If Friesians are getting peunomia as yearlings it's a management issue. . I presume you bought them in the last month or so. Was it straight after purchase. Try and keep them indoors first night after they arrive. If putting cattle into a bunch or outdoors do it in the morning not in the evening. Nights are cold cattle running after each other work up a sweat, same thing with cattle coming out of a truck after traveling a distance

jaginsligo

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If Friesians are getting peunomia as yearlings it's a management issue. . I presume you bought them in the last month or so. Was it straight after purchase. Try and keep them indoors first night after they arrive. If putting cattle into a bunch or outdoors do it in the morning not in the evening. Nights are cold cattle running after each other work up a sweat, same thing with cattle coming out of a truck after traveling a distance

Yes bought in a bunch but we're in a slatted shed for about a week (in a friend's shed) , we left them out in my place in the morning but the weather went to pot.
Next year I'll have a shed cleared out & probably put to them in each night until weather improves

greysides

funkey_monkey wrote: »

In regards to the pneumonia, and I presume these are bought in calves, then you can get a nasal spray from vet or suppliers to give them the minute they arrive. That will help prevent it.

Intranasal vaccine, I presume. Probably Rispoval Intranasal RS+PI3.

funkey_monkey

That's the one.

Limestone Cowboy

148multi wrote: »

Redwater would be unusual this time of year, especially with frost.

The ticks are out alright, have pulled several off myself over the last month.