Three people escape from quarantine

Muahahaha

Bit embarrassing this for the Defence Forces

A search is under way after three people left the mandatory hotel quarantine at the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Santry in Dublin this afternoon.

It is understood one of the three has been found, but a search for the other two people is continuing.

Gardaí said they are liaising with the Defence Forces representative at the hotel.

In a statement the said: "An Garda Síochána are this afternoon liaising with the State Laison Officer at a designated quarantine facility in the Dublin area, in accordance with current protocols.

"As the Department of Health are the lead agency in relation to the management of mandatory quarantining, An Garda Síochána will not be commenting further at this time. "

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206551-coronavirus-hotel-quarantine-ireland/

At least one of the three has been located but jesus how hard is it for them to make sure no one escapes in the first place?

Wonder did Murdock break them out..

volchitsa

Muahahaha wrote: »

Bit embarrassing this for the Defence Forces


https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206551-coronavirus-hotel-quarantine-ireland/

At least one of the three has been located but jesus how hard is it for them to make sure no one escapes in the first place?

Maybe it's some of these people?

Family loses appeal over mandatory hotel quarantine facilities

I'm sure it's horrible to be stuck indoors for 12 days, but how the heck did she imagine that arriving the day before her child's birthday, they were going to be able to have any sort of normal birthday party?

Seriously: since people are paying for it themselves, maybe two levels of comfort should be available : I read that foreigners arriving in Shanghai are put up in a 5* hotel, at their own expense, like here. I don't know what the Crowne Plaza is like but if the rooms are tiny, maybe a second hotel that's top of the range should also be available if people can pay for it?

loveall

Wonder if they're Brazilians with an escort to the meat factory

MarkR

Have the people who've absconded paid in advance? Hope they throw the book at them.

Atlantic Dawn

MarkR wrote: »

Have the people who've absconded paid in advance? Hope they throw the book at them.

It's Ireland, the taxpayer will be paying their tab.

sonofenoch

A nurse returning from a place that's had 1 covid case in a year if forced to quarantine despite a negative test? .....how many of the 1000's of Brazilians flying in will get the same treatment, how very Irish

thebaz

It only took a year , but already those returning to Ireland are whining to the media :-
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/irish-mother-in-quarantine-renews-appeal-for-family-to-be-released-from-unsuitable-hotel-rooms-40246416.html

We finally have quaratine rulse for those that CHOOSE to travel ; only in Ireland.

cajonlardo

Muahahaha wrote: »

Bit embarrassing this for the Defence Forces


https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206551-coronavirus-hotel-quarantine-ireland/

At least one of the three has been located but jesus how hard is it for them to make sure no one escapes in the first place?

It is in no way embarrassing for the Defense Forces. The Defense Forces are not tasked with restraining people in quarantine and they have been ordered not to attempt to detain people.

strandroad

volchitsa wrote: »

Seriously: since people are paying for it themselves, maybe two levels of comfort should be available : I read that foreigners arriving in Shanghai are put up in a 5* hotel, at their own expense, like here. I don't know what the Crowne Plaza is like but if the rooms are tiny, maybe a second hotel that's top of the range should also be available if people can pay for it?

Are these rooms actually tiny? They have two corridor connected rooms, one with two beds and another with one. They have desks and tables.

They piled everyone and their suitcases into the two bed room and are taking photos to prove the point. Use both rooms, put your clothes away in the wardrobes and have the staff store your suitcases elsewhere, problem solved.

Alaninwondeand

I can see the Chinese media running a story about a Chinese person being quarantined in Ireland. The internet is shyte, the room is small ect. Socialism eh.

strandroad

sonofenoch wrote: »

A nurse returning from a place that's had 1 covid case in a year if forced to quarantine despite a negative test? .....how many of the 1000's of Brazilians flying in will get the same treatment, how very Irish

It's not about where they fly from, they had a transfer in Dubai and shared their second flight with Dubai passengers.

TheRiverman

sonofenoch wrote: »

A nurse returning from a place that's had 1 covid case in a year if forced to quarantine despite a negative test? .....how many of the 1000's of Brazilians flying in will get the same treatment, how very Irish

They had a stop over in Dubai and probably changed flights.

JJJackal

Presumably it also depends on what your willing to pay for? They could probably have 3 rooms with connecting doors if they wanted.

The time period eg 1 day versus 1 year in a country with a lot of COVID19 is irrelevant really.

basill

Oh my god. I hope they don't mix with anyone that has driven down from Belfast.

cajonlardo

" While there is expected to be private hotel security on site and a Defence Forces presence, they are unable to enforce the quarantine regulations."

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/three-people-abscond-from-hotel-quarantine-in-dublin-40246285.html

theguzman

I'd rather mix with the three abscondees than anyone else, they all recently tested negative unlike the vast majority of the population. From an infection control point of view travel has never been safer, mandatory mask wearing, mandatory negative tests, there is nothing more that could be done unless to ban unvaccinated travelers. This is purely spin and deflection away from the real problems.

suicide_circus

The absconders...that's a weird one, how do they think they'll get away with it? The authorities have their passport details etc, if they ever intend on interacting with the state again they'll be caught...unless they travelled on false documents

Muahahaha

Muahahaha wrote: »

Bit embarrassing this for the Defence Forces


https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206551-coronavirus-hotel-quarantine-ireland/

At least one of the three has been located but jesus how hard is it for them to make sure no one escapes in the first place?

They just walked out the front door. The Defence Forces there have no power of detention or arrest, so it’s not in the slightest bit embarrassing for them. The problem here is the legal basis for quarantine, and it’s shocking that the Gardai are not present.

Man Vs ManUre

And you have to pay a lot of money for this prison. Those young kids will be traumatised after these 2 weeks. The long flight from Oz is bad enough, now you get the 2 weeks box hotel prison room that costs you €200 a night.

JJJackal

Deleted User wrote: »

They just walked out the front door. The Defence Forces there have no power of detention or arrest, so it’s not in the slightest bit embarrassing for them. The problem here is the legal basis for quarantine, and it’s shocking that the Gardai are not present.

Its also unfortunate that people don't obey the law

rafi bomb

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

And you have to pay a lot of money for this prison. Those young kids will be traumatised after these 2 weeks. The long flight from Oz is bad enough, now you get the 2 weeks box hotel prison room that costs you €200 a night.

Which they knew about before they left.

The country is traumatised feck sake.

They knew what would happen so very hard to have sympathy

Away With The Fairies

strandroad wrote: »

It's not about where they fly from, they had a transfer in Dubai and shared their second flight with Dubai passengers.

You can't get a direct flight from Brazil to Ireland. Brazilians can fly elsewhere in Europe and then get a connecting flight to Ireland. How come the Irish on this connecting flight don't have to quarantine?

normanoffside

https://twitter.com/_FeachNews/status/1375864443310125056

theguzman

JJJackal wrote: »

Its also unfortunate that people don't obey the law

There is times in life when you have a moral obligation to break the law, this law is an absolute disgrace and is definitely one of those times and should not be obeyed by anyone with a backbone.,

This Government has trampled on society since last June and at least under Varadkar and FG there was a sense of rabbit caught in the headlights and with the PUP they tried to mitigate what was expected to be a few weeks event. However we are now run by FF gangsters and thieves who shouldn't trusted for two inches beyond their own nose.

CalamariFritti

'Escape' lol.

Whatever this quarantine spiel is its hardly fkn Alcatraz is it? What do people expect? Fences and dogs, shoot to kill?

JJJackal

theguzman wrote: »

There is times in life when you have a moral obligation to break the law, this law is an absolute disgrace and is definitely one of those times and should not be obeyed by anyone with a backbone.,

This Government has trampled on society since last June and at least under Varadkar and FG there was a sense of rabbit caught in the headlights and with the PUP they tried to mitigate what was expected to be a few weeks event. However we are now run by FF gangsters and thieves who shouldn't trusted for two inches beyond their own nose.

Quarantine should have been introduced 12 months ago - should have started with the lads coming back from Cheltenham and Liverpool v Madrid.

Obviously hindsight is 20/20 for these 2 events - but 12 months is far too long to have waited

The Big Easy

rafi bomb wrote: »

Which they knew about before they left.

The country is traumatised feck sake.

They knew what would happen so very hard to have sympathy

Do you think they booked these flights on last-minute.com?!

They're relocating their entire family back home to Ireland ffs. It's been in the pipeline a while I'd say and one that took a lot of thinking through no doubt. Unlike our shut the stable door after the horse has bolted bolloxology policy we have instituted here.

But yeah, this returning Irish family are awful whingers!!

Tyrone212

theguzman wrote: »

I'd rather mix with the three abscondees than anyone else, they all recently tested negative unlike the vast majority of the population. From an infection control point of view travel has never been safer, mandatory mask wearing, mandatory negative tests, there is nothing more that could be done unless to ban unvaccinated travelers. This is purely spin and deflection away from the real problems.

You need a pcr test result within 72 hours of flying. That's a snapshot of when you were tested. You could have been infected with covid days before you took the test yet it might not have registered when you were tested, it can take up to 14 days after exposure to become ill. You could also catch covid after you've been tested prior to boarding.

I really don't see what the problem is. Everyone is confined to within 5km of their homes while thousands were coming in from Brazil etc where its currently out of control. They were contacted to come forward for another test days after arriving and every time less than one third of them did and of those who did present themselves 10% were positive.

volchitsa

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

And you have to pay a lot of money for this prison. Those young kids will be traumatised after these 2 weeks. The long flight from Oz is bad enough, now you get the 2 weeks box hotel prison room that costs you €200 a night.

You realize if they were going the other way they'd have had the same thing and that this has been the case for months, right? Why would it be less traumatising for Australians going back to Australia than for the Irish? Not to mention this family will presumably have known what the situation was, or they should have.

Storm 10

Defence forces are not minding them it's a private security firm all the Defence forces are doing is bringing them from Airport to Hotel

whisky_galore

rafi bomb wrote: »

Which they knew about before they left.

The country is traumatised feck sake.

They knew what would happen so very hard to have sympathy

More fool they are for coming here.

I suppose she expects the HSE to roll out the red carpet like they did for the other gullibles who believed the HSE bullsh1t, answered the call and (unsurprisingly) got let down.

kowloon

theguzman wrote: »

I have a better idea, lets make all arrivals wear yellow star badges and march them into the gas chambers, oh wait! There is a particular sick cohort of begrudging in Ireland that would nearly go to such depraved extremity now against anyone who dares go on a plane.

Jesus, that didn't take long. Would you like a cheese board to go with that whine?
Grow the **** up, you live in absolute luxury, not the Warsaw ghetto.

Mrs OBumble

cajonlardo wrote: »

It is in no way embarrassing for the Defense Forces. The Defense Forces are not tasked with restraining people in quarantine and they have been ordered not to attempt to detain people.

So who is responsible for detaining them? Cos detention is what quarantine means.

I have no idea why the defence forces are there to start with

They get transported on a coach why do they need a convoy?

Storm 10

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

So who is responsible for detaining them? Cos detention is what quarantine means.

As I posted it's a private security firm who call the Garda if they have problems heard it on the news yesterday

Curlysue76

volchitsa wrote: »

You realize if they were going the other way they'd have had the same thing and that this has been the case for months, right? Why would it be less traumatising for Australians going back to Australia than for the Irish? Not to mention this family will presumably have known what the situation was, or they should have.

She’s complaining about 3 beds for 5 people, If she doesn’t want to share a bed with her husband and 2 young children can’t share a double bed, that’s hardly the hotel's fault.

Valhallapt

basill wrote: »

Oh my god. I hope they don't mix with anyone that has driven down from Belfast.

This is why making people quarantine like this is so pointless. Plus the fact that if Ireland hits its vaccine target 78% of the adult population will be vaccinated in the next 100 days or so.

Might have been useful a year ago, too late now

Valhallapt

Curlysue76 wrote: »

She’s complaining about 3 beds for 5 people, If she doesn’t want to share a bed with her husband and 2 young children can’t share a double bed, that’s hardly the hotel's fault.

To be fair the hotel is empty, they deserve a bed at a minimum

Man Vs ManUre

volchitsa wrote: »

You realize if they were going the other way they'd have had the same thing and that this has been the case for months, right? Why would it be less traumatising for Australians going back to Australia than for the Irish? Not to mention this family will presumably have known what the situation was, or they should have.

The hotel rooms in Oz would have been a hell of a lot better for a start, based on the conditions of what I saw on the news today.

BorneTobyWilde

cajonlardo

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

So who is responsible for detaining them? Cos detention is what quarantine means.

Nobody is responsible for detaining them.
Gardai are to be called to " deal" with anyone not in compliance
No point asking me any further because that is all I know - not being a smart alec, genuinely do not know

Curlysue76

Valhallapt wrote: »

To be fair the hotel is empty, they deserve a bed at a minimum

Put a child in a room on their own? I’d rather my children together than split them up, it’s hardly a hardship for two kids to share a double bed, she’s making it sound like they’re all on top of each other in a single bed.

volchitsa

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

The hotel rooms in Oz would have been a hell of a lot better for a start, based on the conditions of what I saw on the news today.

But we know they weren't entirely honest in the conditions they showed. It's a four star hotel FFS, how bad can it be?

freshpopcorn

They'll probably announce in a few days that 20 people actually escaped but there was a delay in releasing the numbers!

PowerToWait

theguzman wrote: »

I have a better idea, lets make all arrivals wear yellow star badges and march them into the gas chambers, oh wait! There is a particular sick cohort of begrudging in Ireland that would nearly go to such depraved extremity now against anyone who dares go on a plane.

Where’s the begrudgery? You think I can’t afford the ticket? I could comfortably pay for several luxury holidays to anywhere on the planet this minute. But I won’t. Because I’m not a tool.

The rest of your post is hysterical shíte. Dragging the Shoah into this is beyond imbecilic.

Man Vs ManUre

volchitsa wrote: »

But we know they weren't entirely honest in the conditions they showed. It's a four star hotel FFS, how bad can it be?

From what I saw on the news it looked cramped, kids were just lying there miserable in small beds, no space really between beds, a tiny round table with 2 chairs. And the woman also complained about the getting let out for exercise situation.
People will need to travel for different reasons, and this is just the start of the horror stories on this, and it’s only day 1. Considering the price this family has paid for their 2 weeks hotel stay I would expect the conditions to be a bit nicer.

MarkR

theguzman wrote: »

I have a better idea, lets make all arrivals wear yellow star badges and march them into the gas chambers, oh wait! There is a particular sick cohort of begrudging in Ireland that would nearly go to such depraved extremity now against anyone who dares go on a plane.

People need to wake up and realize we are in the situation we are in due to a corrupt Government and the fact that the EU is controlling all facets of the vaccination programme. A nurse returning from Australia or an immigrant from South America is not the problem, the problem in our own politicians and their corrupt buddies in the trade unions who have turned the HSE into the worst type of farce you couldnt imagine. If you gave a group of consultants a job and told them go and make an absolute disgrace of a health system and waste money like no tomorrow then they could not do a good a job as the HSE are doing of wrecking everything.

Godwins law, you lose. Thanks for playing though!

Do you have a list of laws we should and shouldn't follow? Does it vary, or is it set in stone?

dhaughton99

volchitsa wrote: »

But we know they weren't entirely honest in the conditions they showed. It's a four star hotel FFS, how bad can it be?

But she gave up her home and work in AUS to come home to help us.

"Michelle O'Dowd, who returned to Ireland with her husband and three children from Australia, to work as a nurse in the health services here"

volchitsa

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

From what I saw on the news it looked cramped, kids were just lying there miserable in small beds, no space really between beds, a tiny round table with 2 chairs. And the woman also complained about the getting let out for exercise situation.
People will need to travel for different reasons, and this is just the start of the horror stories on this, and it’s only day 1. Considering the price this family has paid for their 2 weeks hotel stay I would expect the conditions to be a bit nicer.

But you already know that what you saw on the news wasn't the truth. There were two interconnecting rooms, and there were (presumably, in a four star hotel) wardrobes to hang up their clothes.

The photo was a set up. More fool you if you fall for it.

(I know people who had to go back to China for work: they had to pay more than that again, albeit for a five star hotel. So maybe four str isn't good enough, but it will be more expensive if it's five star.)

sydthebeat

theguzman wrote: »

I have a better idea, lets make all arrivals wear yellow star badges and march them into the gas chambers, oh wait! There is a particular sick cohort of begrudging in Ireland that would nearly go to such depraved extremity now against anyone who dares go on a plane.

People need to wake up and realize we are in the situation we are in due to a corrupt Government and the fact that the EU is controlling all facets of the vaccination programme. A nurse returning from Australia or an immigrant from South America is not the problem, the problem in our own politicians and their corrupt buddies in the trade unions who have turned the HSE into the worst type of farce you couldnt imagine. If you gave a group of consultants a job and told them go and make an absolute disgrace of a health system and waste money like no tomorrow then they could not do a good a job as the HSE are doing of wrecking everything.

De gubber ment did me rong boss.... Me u man rites n all