Commemoration of Violet Gibson

SafeSurfer

Is the unanimous decision by Dublin City Council to commemorate the mentally ill woman who shot Mussolini the most embarrassing political decision so far this year?

colm_mcm

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Is the unanimous decision by Dublin City Council to commemorate the mentally ill woman who shot Mussolini the most embarrassing political decision so far this year?

Not even in the top 10 of embarrassing political decisions I’d say.

biko

Had to google it
https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2021/0325/1206152-violet-gibson-plaque/
I suppose it's a reason as good as any to have a plaque.

Seems to have been quite an adventure.

Police had to save Ms Gibson from being killed by the crowd and she was deported to England, an act for which the British government is said to have thanked Mussolini.

However, then aged 50, she was detained in a psychiatric hospital for the rest of her life despite repeated pleas for her release.

gw80

According to wikipedia she made him look good by being merciful by sending her home to England even after she shot him which helped him consolidate power

Eric Cartman

why are we determined to celebrate the insane, evil or mediocre.

SafeSurfer

Eric Cartman wrote: »

why are we determined to celebrate the insane, evil or mediocre.

Dublin City Council claimed she is being commemorated because she struck a blow against fascism. The woman herself said she was motivated “to glorify God”.

I suppose the truth doesn’t matter as long as she was “agin fascism”.

Muahahaha

Just a pity she didnt get to assassinate Mussolini, it was a courageous act

The Inbetween is mine

She missed....and spent 30 years in an English insane asylum...she should have gotten a park bench at least!

odyssey06

The Violet Gibson white water rafting park has a better ring to it than the Owen Keegan vanity project.
DCC isnt fit for purpose. Scrap it and go for city mayor elected with real powers and budget.
When you are working in a powerless position you indulge in nonsense like this.

walshb

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Is the unanimous decision by Dublin City Council to commemorate the mentally ill woman who shot Mussolini the most embarrassing political decision so far this year?

In today’s world it’s not the slight bit embarrassing.

riffmongous

If she'd succeeded there's a good chance we would not have had WW2, literally a hair's breadth away from saving ten's of millions of lives

SafeSurfer

riffmongous wrote: »

If she'd succeeded there's a good chance we would not have had WW2, literally a hair's breadth away from saving ten's of millions of lives

Or perhaps if she had succeeded the Nazis would have defeated the Soviet Union by commencing operation Barborossa earlier instead of having to rescue the Italians in Greece.

whisky_galore

biko wrote: »

Had to google it
https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2021/0325/1206152-violet-gibson-plaque/
I suppose it's a reason as good as any to have a plaque.

Seems to have been quite an adventure.

Rubbish assassin gets a plaque.

StupidLikeAFox

Decent enough podcast on her here:

https://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2014/0612/647669-documentary-irishwoman-shot-mussolini-violet-gibson/

riffmongous

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Or perhaps if she had succeeded the Nazis would have defeated the Soviet Union by commencing operation Barborossa earlier instead of having to rescue the Italians in Greece.

Never would have got that far, without another fascist in charge Italy wouldn't have allowed Germany to take over Austria in '38, even Mussolini was against it for some time. Without the Austrian flank the Sudetenland isn't as vulnerable and Hitler never even gets going.The whole rotten Reich would collapse in on itself without being able to expand

alchemist33

The S*ite Talk podcast did a piece on her recently which I'd recommend to anyone (it's informative AND funny).

It's more a sad story than anything and nothing to be celebrated.

SafeSurfer

It is pretty clear the woman was mentally ill and for an avowed pacifist, capable of violence also.

She was first committed to a mental asylum after attacking a stranger with a knife in South Kensington in 1919.

wicklowstevo

one wonder if she was her own times version of Gemma and just got lucky with her target being a fascist

after all she was quite clearly a bat poop crazy person

SafeSurfer

riffmongous wrote: »

Never would have got that far, without another fascist in charge Italy wouldn't have allowed Germany to take over Austria in '38, even Mussolini was against it for some time. Without the Austrian flank the Sudetenland isn't as vulnerable and Hitler never even gets going.The whole rotten Reich would collapse in on itself without being able to expand

You assume that fascist Italy wouldn’t have survived the assassination of Mussolini in 1926. The Fascists likely had sufficient grip on power in Italy to retain control after the death of Il Duce.

wicklowstevo

SafeSurfer wrote: »

You assume that fascist Italy wouldn’t have survived the assassination of Mussolini in 1926. The Fascists likely had sufficient grip on power in Italy to retain control after the death of Il Duce.

at a guess id say a communist state in Italy would have developed and changed the outcome for history dramatically for the worse