White Briton’s will be a minority by 2066

vladmydad

Demographers believe that if the immigration and fertility patterns of the past 20 years continue then this will be the last century in which Europeans will be the majority in Europe and other currently White nations. It’s fascinating to think a day will come relatively soon where Murphy, O’Connor, Fitzpatrick Etc and pale Irish children will all be minority’s in Ireland. I personally believe Europe’s politics is about to enter an extreme phase with conflict and terrible ethnic divides within Europe in this century.

What are your thoughts and predictions ?

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vladmydad wrote: »

Demographers believe that if the immigration and fertility patterns of the past 20 years continue then this will be the last century in which Europeans will be the majority in Europe and other currently White nations. It’s fascinating to think a day will come relatively soon where Murphy, O’Connor, Fitzpatrick Etc and pale Irish children will all be minority’s in Ireland. I personally believe Europe’s politics is about to enter an extreme phase with conflict and terrible ethnic divides within Europe in this century.

What are your thoughts and predictions ?

I agree with you on the extreme phase of divide and conflict coming. Look at the population growth in these countries, they'll be bursting at the seams and plus, they're more affected my climate change so climate migration will be a big factor.

If all goes well, it'll just be an integration and eventually, we'll all be a moulded race. We've been migrating as people for thousands of years, our borders are quite new.

Paranoid Mandroid

I don't care what the colour of people's skin will be in 2066 and I don't think the kids at that time will care as much as you either. It'll be grand.

85603

wont be around so dont really care.

also 45 year predictions dont usually pan out. we were all meant to have a big clunky personal robot with an inbuilt microwave following us around the house and lighting the childrens cigarettes for them by 2000 according to people in the 50's.

everyone was meant to be driving 3 wheeled electric cars shaped like rockets. and by everyone i mean just the man of the house.
father would drive his rocket car while the bloopatron 2000 helped mother make cakes in the kitchen. it was all so predictable.

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85603 wrote: »

wont be around so dont really care.

also 45 year predictions dont usually pan out. we were all meant to have a big clunky personal robot with an inbuilt microwave following us around the house and lighting the childrens cigarettes for them by 2000 according to people in the 50's.

everyone was meant to be driving 3 wheeled electric cars shaped like rockets. and by everyone i mean just the man of the house.
father would drive his rocket car while the bloopatron 2000 helped mother make cakes in the kitchen. it was all so predictable.

These predictions aren't as baseless though, we know for a fact that fertility rates have pretty much bottomed in the west compared to emerging economies like India and sub-saharahn Africa. The world will have an extra 2 billion people in 30 years time, most of which will be African and Asian, while we're not having babies at near the same rate. It doesn't take a genius to see how it'll pan out and power to them, time for them to get their slice of the pie unless we **** it up somehow.

myshirt

The boot is on the other foot now

85603

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These predictions aren't as baseless though, we know for a fact that fertility rates have pretty much bottomed in the west compared to emerging economies like India and sub-saharahn Africa. The world will have an extra 2 billion people in 30 years time, most of which will be African and Asian, while we're not having babies at near the same rate. It doesn't take a genius to see how it'll pan out and power to them, time for them to get their slice of the pie unless we **** it up somehow.

a 45 year prediction is about as accurate as met eireann.

a strand of rna 1000s of times smaller than the tip of a pin recently ground the global economy to a halt. how many eggheads in 2018 factored that in to their numbers.

what if a fantastic new male birth control option with zero downside and absolute minimal cost gets invented in the meantime.

maybe its like viagra but also with a birth control effect. and costs pennies. gives you a rager and stops any pregnancies, which means shes good to go year round.
men worldwide would be all over that, births would plummet.

ThunbergsAreGo

Sure won't we all be dead from climate change by then

Less sunburnt kids for the two weeks of summer in June, 45 years time so!

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85603 wrote: »

a 45 year prediction is about as accurate as met eireann.

a strand of rna 1000s of times smaller than the tip of a pin recently ground the global economy to a halt. how many eggheads in 2018 factored that in to their numbers.

what if a fantastic new male birth control option with zero downside and absolute minimal cost gets invented in the meantime.

maybe its like viagra but also with a birth control effect. and costs pennies. gives you a rager and stops any pregnancies, which means shes good to go year round.
men worldwide would be all over that, births would plummet.

I don't think you really understand what you're talking about. Population growth is fairly predictable, this has nothing to do with pandemics or super contraceptives, it's pretty much a sure thing that we're going to have an extra 2 billion people in 30 years. It's this current generation being born that will be having these 2 billion children in these regions, so if you really think we're going to provide that many people with a super contraceptive that doesn't exist yet and think that everyone will be willing to take this super contraceptive that doesn't exist yet, fair enough.

Governments across the globe are preparing for this population explosion, it's pretty much inevitable unless we have some kind of mass extinction within the next 30 years.

In the last 30 years, we've added an extra 2.5 billion to the world population, so saying that we'll have an extra 2 billion in the next 30 is hardly the same as microwaves walking and lighting cigarettes.

This isn't a 45 year prediction either, this is 2050.

85603

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I don't think you really understand what you're talking about. Population growth is fairly predictable, this has nothing to do with pandemics or super contraceptives, it's pretty much a sure thing that we're going to have an extra 2 billion people in 30 years. It's this current generation being born that will be having these 2 billion children in these regions, so if you really think we're going to provide that many people with a super contraceptive that doesn't exist yet and think that everyone will be willing to take this super contraceptive that doesn't exist yet, fair enough.

Governments across the globe are preparing for this population explosion, it's pretty much inevitable unless we have some kind of mass extinction within the next 30 years.

In the last 30 years, we've added an extra 2.5 billion to the world population, so saying that we'll have an extra 2 billion in the next 30 is hardly the same as microwaves walking and lighting cigarettes.

and theyre all going to move to europe because reasons.

the world is an extremely chaotic place, intergenerational predictions are naturally questionable. theres nothing sure about it. youre treating a 45 year prediction like it was the word of god. the next mao or the next aids could come along and swing those numbers wildly.

85603

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I don't think you really understand what you're talking about. Population growth is fairly predictable, this has nothing to do with pandemics or super contraceptives, it's pretty much a sure thing that we're going to have an extra 2 billion people in 30 years. It's this current generation being born that will be having these 2 billion children in these regions, so if you really think we're going to provide that many people with a super contraceptive that doesn't exist yet and think that everyone will be willing to take this super contraceptive that doesn't exist yet, fair enough.

Governments across the globe are preparing for this population explosion, it's pretty much inevitable unless we have some kind of mass extinction within the next 30 years.

In the last 30 years, we've added an extra 2.5 billion to the world population, so saying that we'll have an extra 2 billion in the next 30 is hardly the same as microwaves walking and lighting cigarettes.

This isn't a 45 year prediction either, this is 2050.

2066 is in the fuking title, Einstein.

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85603 wrote: »

2066 is in the fuking title, Einstein.

You're beyond help.

Annasopra

vladmydad wrote: »

Demographers believe that if the immigration and fertility patterns of the past 20 years continue then this will be the last century in which Europeans will be the majority in Europe and other currently White nations. It’s fascinating to think a day will come relatively soon where Murphy, O’Connor, Fitzpatrick Etc and pale Irish children will all be minority’s in Ireland. I personally believe Europe’s politics is about to enter an extreme phase with conflict and terrible ethnic divides within Europe in this century.

What are your thoughts and predictions ?

I cant make out - are we talking about Irish or Brirish or or European?

Have you some links to show us which demographers are saying this?

bilbot79

Oh no. Cue another thread to be hijacked by anti-multiculturalists.

OhHiMark

bilbot79 wrote: »

Oh no. Cue another thread to be hijacked by anti-multiculturalists.

Hijacked? This thread was designed for them.

Quantum Erasure

Paranoid Mandroid wrote: »

I don't care what the colour of people's skin will be in 2066 and I don't think the kids at that time will care as much as you either. It'll be grand.

The issue is integration though, culture and customs, where these people live, mostly white rural countryside, mostly black cities / suburbs...

myshirt

One prediction that I certainly think is not baseless is that there will be limited to no pension for those seeking to retire post 2050.

I believe we will be looking back on public sector pay and pensions from 1995-to date with significant regret and scandal.

The Mighty Quinn

myshirt wrote: »

One prediction that I certainly think is not baseless is that there will be limited to no pension for those seeking to retire post 2050.

I believe we will be looking back on public sector pay and pensions from 1995-to date with significant regret and scandal.

I think my pension is due to start in 2053. Whoop!

I think the ratio of working:retired at that point goes from approx 5:1 today to 2:1 by then, maybe even sooner.

I don't believe by 2066 white Irish will be a minority. Perhaps white British in Britain, yes, but they are also much more multicultural than us at present

vladmydad

OhHiMark wrote: »

Hijacked? This thread was designed for them.

I don’t see how a discussion about an entire race of people becoming a minority in their ancestral land is anti-multiculturalism, it’s an existential crisis. Don’t we owe it to our ancestors and future generations that we survive and thrive. Why is it evil or wrong for white people to be concerned about their race. I believe it would be a catastrophe for Japanese or Indian or sub Saharan Africans to be a minority in their regions. Multiculturalism is fine but the host people should always remain the majority, how is this even controversial ??

vladmydad

vladmydad wrote: »

I don’t see how a discussion about an entire race of people becoming a minority in their ancestral land is anti-multiculturalism, it’s an existential crisis. Don’t we owe it to our ancestors and future generations that we survive and thrive. Why is it evil or wrong for white people to be concerned about their race. I believe it would be a catastrophe for Japanese or Indian or sub Saharan Africans to be a minority in their regions. Multiculturalism is fine but the host people should always remain the majority, how is this even controversial ??

What difference does it make?

Briton/UK will have long ceased to exist by 2066....scots want out,irish unity,both likely in near to medium term......even welsh are getting itchy feet as regards the union



Wouldnt be suprised to see england become more federalised to deal with internal issues caused by uk breakup

England might have a chance of winning the world Cup again.

Also, good milenium anniversary of 1066. A lot went on in Britain that year.


Plus les choses changent, plus elles restent les mêmes.

OhHiMark

vladmydad wrote: »

I don’t see how a discussion about an entire race of people becoming a minority in their ancestral land is anti-multiculturalism, it’s an existential crisis. Don’t we owe it to our ancestors and future generations that we survive and thrive. Why is it evil or wrong for white people to be concerned about their race. I believe it would be a catastrophe for Japanese or Indian or sub Saharan Africans to be a minority in their regions. Multiculturalism is fine but the host people should always remain the majority, how is this even controversial ??

Why is it only ever people clutching their pearls about multiculturism who mention "sub Saharan Africans"? It's a great dog whistle, like people talking about gangs of African youths.

vladmydad

OhHiMark wrote: »

Why is it only ever people clutching their pearls about multiculturism who mention "sub Saharan Africans"? It's a great dog whistle, like people talking about gangs of African youths.

Because they’re a distinct race and different to North Africans such as Egyptians etc. Who mentioned African gangs ?

vladmydad

vladmydad wrote: »

Because they’re a distinct race and different to North Africans such as Egyptians etc. Who mentioned African gangs ?

What makes em different?

Annasopra

vladmydad wrote: »

Why is it evil or wrong

Because your ideas/theories come from white supremacist conspiracies and they have been used as a motivation/justification for mass murder - e.g. El Paso, Christchurch, Utoya

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/06/us/politics/grand-replacement-explainer.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/05/great-replacement-theory-alt-right-killers-el-paso

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/countering-radical-right/great-replacement-theory-historical-perspective/

https://newlinesmag.com/essays/the-balkan-roots-of-the-far-rights-great-replacement-theory/

OhHiMark

vladmydad wrote: »

Because they’re a distinct race and different to North Africans such as Egyptians etc. Who mentioned African gangs ?

So?

vladmydad

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What makes em different?

North Africans have substantial Ottoman, Arab, Spanish etc DNA mixed in but Sub Saharans are very homogeneous and relatively unchanged since very early times.

Race I don't have a problem with.

It's archaic religious (we're nearly rid of that ourselves without reimporting) and social beliefs I'd have a problem with.

To expand, I'd be equally unhappy with an influx of white scientologists.

vladmydad

Annasopra wrote: »

Because your ideas/theories come from white supremacist conspiracies and they have been used as a motivation/justification for mass murder - e.g. El Paso, Christchurch, Utoya

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/06/us/politics/grand-replacement-explainer.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/05/great-replacement-theory-alt-right-killers-el-paso

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/countering-radical-right/great-replacement-theory-historical-perspective/

https://newlinesmag.com/essays/the-balkan-roots-of-the-far-rights-great-replacement-theory/

No I don’t believe in any superior race and have great admiration for all races, that’s why I believe each is entitled to their piece of this world. China got control over Tibetans by resetting millions of Han Chinese in Tibet. I assume you don’t agree with Tibetans being a minority in Tibet ?

OhHiMark

vladmydad wrote: »

No I don’t believe in any superior race and have great admiration for all races, that’s why I believe each is entitled to their piece of this world. China got control over Tibetans by resetting millions of Han Chinese in Tibet. I assume you don’t agree with Tibetans being a minority in Tibet ?

Why shouldn't different races be allowed in different parts of the world? I think the world would be a much worse place if we didn't have the influence of different cultures.

Annasopra

vladmydad wrote: »

No I don’t believe in any superior race

You are repeating white supremacist conspiracy theories which have been responsible for inspiring mass murder and genocide.

vladmydad

Annasopra wrote: »

You are repeating white supremacist conspiracy theories which have been responsible for inspiring mass murder and genocide.

So that’s a yes for Tibetans being a minority in Tibet ? Ok

vladmydad

vladmydad wrote: »

So that’s a yes for Tibetans being a minority in Tibet ? Ok

No....no more so,than nationlists in the 6 counties....kind of hard to feel sorry for the british,while they cling onto parts of other countries tbh


I dont understand logic for retaining gibraltor either.......yous are concerned of future ethic makeup of a country that deosnt view irish as equals

vladmydad

OhHiMark wrote: »

Why shouldn't different races be allowed in different parts of the world? I think the world would be a much worse place if we didn't have the influence of different cultures.

Nobody said they can’t, we’re talking about a foundational change. Changing millennial old continental demographics over a few decades. As in for example If tens of millions of Europeans went to Nigeria over the next 25 years and Nigerians became an ethnic minority in Nigeria. I think that’s appalling.

Annasopra

vladmydad wrote: »

So that’s

Yes

Your ideas in the original post are based on white supremacy conspiracies which have been used to justify violent extremism and mass murder and genocide

https://www.counterextremism.com/content/great-replacement-theory

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2019/08/deadly-myth-great-replacement

https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/18/the-dangers-of-believing-that-white-people-are-becoming-a-minority-13755528/

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/white-supremacist-great-replacement/

vladmydad wrote: »

I don’t believe in any superior race

You are coming on here and telling us you believe in white supremacist/white nationalist conspiracy theories so something doesnt compute.

dan1895

vladmydad wrote: »

Nobody said they can’t, we’re talking about a foundational change. Changing millennial old continental demographics over a few decades. As in for example If tens of millions of Europeans went to Nigeria over the next 25 years and Nigerians became an ethnic minority in Nigeria. I think that’s appalling.

Like what happened in North America??

vladmydad

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No....no more so,than nationlists in the 6 counties....kind of hard to feel sorry for the british,while they cling onto parts of other countries tbh


I dont understand logic for retaining gibraltor either.......yous are concerned of future ethic makeup of a country that deosnt view irish as equals[/quote

Britain is just one example, and yes I do believe a future non white makeup of Ireland, Britain etc will be very unsympathetic to their white minority’s but wouldn’t it be appalling for a people’s to allow themselves to become an ethnic minority.

Lucy8080

A lot of us won't be around in 2066!

I hope to Christ/Truth/Reality or whatever ........never mind!

Humanity will still knock around, I hope...what's wrong with that?

vladmydad

vladmydad wrote: »

Nobody said they can’t, we’re talking about a foundational change. Changing millennial old continental demographics over a few decades. As in for example If tens of millions of Europeans went to Nigeria over the next 25 years and Nigerians became an ethnic minority in Nigeria. I think that’s appalling.

Why is it appalling?
That's just life, if lots of people emigrate to certain countries, then the demographic will eventually change. So what? What's is wrong with that?
Nothing wrong with change, particularly natural change.

OhHiMark

vladmydad wrote: »

Nobody said they can’t, we’re talking about a foundational change. Changing millennial old continental demographics over a few decades. As in for example If tens of millions of Europeans went to Nigeria over the next 25 years and Nigerians became an ethnic minority in Nigeria. I think that’s appalling.

What's the issue here is that you want white people to have whatever they want.

Annasopra

OhHiMark wrote: »

What's the issue here is that you want white people to have whatever they want.

The issue is that the OP believes in White Nationalist/White Supremacist conspiracy theories that have inspired and motivated huge swathes of violence and mass murder and genocide.

beerguts

Mass immigration is never a good thing as it always causes ethnic tensions in the region it happens. Now I do believe immigrant groups in smaller numbers is a good thing and help innovation in business and culture by bringing in new ideas.
You can see that there is now a major turn in some European nations policy to migrants and I do think in the coming decade we will see promotion of ethnic European birth rate over migrants.
Also to be fair op if it is black immigrants from Africa that you are worried about they actually make up a very small portion of the people coming in. It is mostly north African and near East Region from Turkey up to Pakistan. And if they could lose their backward religion they would integrate quite well

Ray Donovan

beerguts wrote: »

Mass immigration is never a good thing as it always causes ethnic tensions in the region it happens. Now I do believe immigrant groups in smaller numbers is a good thing and help innovation in business and culture by bringing in new ideas.
You can see that there is now a major turn in some European nations policy to migrants and I do think in the coming decade we will see promotion of ethnic European birth rate over migrants.
Also to be fair op if it is black immigrants from Africa that you are worried about they actually make up a very small portion of the people coming in. It is mostly north African and near East Region from Turkey up to Pakistan. And if they could lose their backward religion they would integrate quite well

Their background religion ain’t going anywhere!

completedit

dan1895 wrote: »

Like what happened in North America??

The only people who don't think what happened in North America are people who don't care enough to know or Americans. This is the perfect example of what happens and why we must learn from history.

Necro

Paranoid Mandroid wrote: »

I don't care what the colour of people's skin will be in 2066 and I don't think the kids at that time will care as much as you either. It'll be grand.

Mod:

This - exactly this. The rest of the dog-whistling rubbish in the loaded OP doesn't matter.

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