Zoom call - can i request recording

Bellview

hi, just checking if someone can point me in right direction. If a person joins a Zoom call and is ok that call is recorded. can that person request a copy of the recording under GDPR etc

also checking with a solicitor

Victor

You can request anything.

However, there are a number of issues:
* Was the call recorded? If so, who recorded it?
* Does the recording include you or information about you? This might not apply to some group calls.
* Is that information exempt?

Bellview

Victor wrote: »

You can request anything.

However, there are a number of issues:
* Was the call recorded? If so, who recorded it?
* Does the recording include you or information about you? This might not apply to some group calls.
* Is that information exempt?

\Thanks Victor

yes call was recorded, this was mentioned at start of call and during call when one member double checked that call was recorded .. it was a heated committee meeting where some insults were flying.
The vice chairman/secretary have recording - not sure if its on pc or in cloud
the person (not me) who is asking for recording had a number of insults thrown his way.. so very relevant to him
when exempt - as committee meeting i assume its not

Lenar3556

You would be talking about a data subject access request. When you say committee, what type of entity are we taking about? If it were a community group / enterprise is it under the umbrella of a company limited by guarantee for example?

If it’s a more informal affair you may have difficulty successfully exercising any rights which may (or may not) exist under data protection legislation.

Note that any such entitlement would only be for the voice / images of the data subject requesting the information. All other audio/images/video of others could and should be redacted by the data controller.

Unfortunately GDPR isn’t the ‘catch all’ that many make it out to be.

Bellview

Lenar3556 wrote: »

You would be talking about a data subject access request. When you say committee, what type of entity are we taking about? If it were a community group / enterprise is it under the umbrella of a company limited by guarantee for example?

If it’s a more informal affair you may have difficulty successfully exercising any rights which may (or may not) exist under data protection legislation.

Note that any such entitlement would only be for the voice / images of the data subject requesting the information. All other audio/images/video of others could and should be redacted by the data controller.

Unfortunately GDPR isn’t the ‘catch all’ that many make it out to be.

The group would be registered under register of friendly societies.. if ok I won't mention any more...if they get the voice that is all that is required

Victor

Lenar3556 wrote: »

Note that any such entitlement would only be for the voice / images of the data subject requesting the information. All other audio/images/video of others could and should be redacted by the data controller.

I understand that this isn't necessarily so. If people are talking about the OP, then the OP may be entitled to that content as it is data about the OP.

ByTheSea2019

The way I understood it was that if someone makes comments about me, that is my personal data. But if I make comments about the weather for example, that would not necessarily be. Even though I was the one doing the talking the information isn't about me.

I think one of the GDPR exceptions is that you might not be entitled to information about yourself when it also contains information about other people and I always wondered what extent they would need to go to in cropping a recording or a document? For example, if there are 12 brief comments about a person in an hour long meeting, do they need to crop it to give 12 recordings that are all 10 seconds long. Or could they use the exception saying they are not giving this information because the information is the meeting recording as a whole and it also contains information about other people.

Victor

ByTheSea2019 wrote: »

The way I understood it was that if someone makes comments about me, that is my personal data. But if I make comments about the weather for example, that would not necessarily be. Even though I was the one doing the talking the information isn't about me.

But the recording of your voice and image are about you.

ByTheSea2019 wrote: »

I think one of the GDPR exceptions is that you might not be entitled to information about yourself when it also contains information about other people and I always wondered what extent they would need to go to in cropping a recording or a document? For example, if there are 12 brief comments about a person in an hour long meeting, do they need to crop it to give 12 recordings that are all 10 seconds long. Or could they use the exception saying they are not giving this information because the information is the meeting recording as a whole and it also contains information about other people.

you are entitled to information about you. That there may be an administrative burden in refining content to only be about you, then that is a burden the data processor needs to bear.

As I understand things, if data about you is bound up with data about others, you are still normally entitled to the data, but I'm guessing it will need to be taken on a case by case basis.

There are also considerations because this is a conversation that was recorded, therefore if the person is given access to the recording they need to be informed that they do not have the right to publish this recording without the consent of the other participants even if the bit of the recording they are given concerns only them.

So if someone insults me during a meeting and I get that recording, I can't then turn around and put it on youtube without their consent. However if I sued them for defamation and they claimed they had never insulted me, I could use the recording to impeach them.

whippet

More than likely the recording will be deleted

screamer

What is your company policy on recorded meetings? I’d start there being honest.

whippet

screamer wrote: »

What is your company policy on recorded meetings? I’d start there being honest.

i'd imagine that isn't relevant. sounds like some residents association that need to meet over zoom in covid times.

If the OP were to go looking for a copy of the recording and quoting GDPR etc you can be fairly confident the person who has it will just delete it and then there isnt any data to be subjected to GDPR

Ask for minutes of the meeting - if the bit you are concerned about isn't in the minutes you can dispute it and request that your version of what was said is circulated and need to be included in the minutes

TheBoyConor

And if it is a residents committee or something, and you come in all legal like this, then you'll just have torpedoed your standing and reputation with the other members of the committee. How will anyone on there trust you or want to have any involvement with you if you have form for setting solicitors on them for the sake of a comment on a zoom meeting.

Might as well resign from the committee and be done with it now, because if you go the route you are saying, you are effectively done anyway.

Bellview

whippet wrote: »

i'd imagine that isn't relevant. sounds like some residents association that need to meet over zoom in covid times.

If the OP were to go looking for a copy of the recording and quoting GDPR etc you can be fairly confident the person who has it will just delete it and then there isnt any data to be subjected to GDPR

Ask for minutes of the meeting - if the bit you are concerned about isn't in the minutes you can dispute it and request that your version of what was said is circulated and need to be included in the minutes

As mentioned the group is registered under reg of friendly societies and has turnover of over 400k a year.. there is also a challenge with minute taking and number inaccuracies in these... time will tell what's available but if anything has been deleted ..