Massey 135 sale price

xavier8228

So my dad has decided to get rid of his beloved tractor, a Massey 135 with cab and transport box. But it isn’t in great condition. In a fit of rage a few years ago he cut the wire for the lights coz he though it killed the battery. The Diablo has also stopped working recently so it needs to be replaced. There’s quite a bit of rust around it too. I was wondering how much to advertise it for? Is 1000 euro too low? Would he get more? TIA

AckwelFoley

Unless it's sitting up on 4 blocks I think 1000 is far too cheap.

Wiring isn't rocket science on a 1970s tractor

I can't say what it's worth but I think at least 3k if it's in running order

We got close to that (1000) for an old Ferguson 20 that had to be dragged up onto the lorry

xavier8228

AckwelFoley wrote: »

Unless it's sitting up on 4 blocks I think 1000 is far too cheap.

Wiring isn't rocket science on a 1970s tractor

I can't say what it's worth but I think at least 3k if it's in running order

We got close to that (1000) for an old Ferguson 20 that had to be dragged up onto the lorry

Well it will have to go on a trailer at first just because of the fact it won’t start now but as far as I can tell the Diablo/alternator is a common problem on the 135’s

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xavier8228 wrote: »

So my dad has decided to get rid of his beloved tractor, a Massey 135 with cab and transport box. But it isn’t in great condition. In a fit of rage a few years ago he cut the wire for the lights coz he though it killed the battery. The Diablo has also stopped working recently so it needs to be replaced. There’s quite a bit of rust around it too. I was wondering how much to advertise it for? Is 1000 euro too low? Would he get more? TIA

You'll get much more than that and parts are dirt cheap and everything down to the tiniest part is available

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xavier8228 wrote: »

Well it will have to go on a trailer at first just because of the fact it won’t start now but as far as I can tell the Diablo/alternator is a common problem on the 135’s

Lucas dynamo/alternator is cheap and easy to rewire, less than an hours work, it should start if you charge the battery, jump-start it or give it a tow

forgottenhills

Here's a question for anyone here dealing with old tractors. If an old tractor hasn't been started for 20 years or more but has been stored inside in a shed, and is in good condition, should the diesel sitting in the tractor be drained off before attempting to start?

A related question is - if agricultural diesel (red diesel) has been sitting in a tank for 30 years is it still ok to use?

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forgottenhills wrote: »

Here's a question for anyone here dealing with old tractors. If an old tractor hasn't been started for 20 years or more but has been stored inside in a shed, and is in good condition, should the diesel sitting in the tractor be drained off before attempting to start?

A related question is - if agricultural diesel (red diesel) has been sitting in a tank for 30 years is it still ok to use?

Good chance it has attracted water, dont use it

Kevhog1988

xavier8228 wrote: »

So my dad has decided to get rid of his beloved tractor, a Massey 135 with cab and transport box. But it isn’t in great condition. In a fit of rage a few years ago he cut the wire for the lights coz he though it killed the battery. The Diablo has also stopped working recently so it needs to be replaced. There’s quite a bit of rust around it too. I was wondering how much to advertise it for? Is 1000 euro too low? Would he get more? TIA

Any pics of how rough it is?

mickdw

xavier8228 wrote: »

So my dad has decided to get rid of his beloved tractor, a Massey 135 with cab and transport box. But it isn’t in great condition. In a fit of rage a few years ago he cut the wire for the lights coz he though it killed the battery. The Diablo has also stopped working recently so it needs to be replaced. There’s quite a bit of rust around it too. I was wondering how much to advertise it for? Is 1000 euro too low? Would he get more? TIA

Is it late or early 135.
The later ones had straight front axle whereas early ones had a swept back front axle.
A few photos would be great

forgottenhills

RandomViewer wrote: »

Good chance it has attracted water, dont use it

This tank is indoors as well so I don't think it has been exposed to much water. Even if it has had internal condensation, would it not be possible to use it after the bit in the bottom of the tank has been drained off (oil floats on water)? There are several hundred gallons in the tank, it would be a shame and probably costly to have to get rid of it. What I would more concerned about is that internet searches suggest that diesel will form sludges over time as the ingredients start to react. I probably need to find a rooter who has used years old diesel to see what happens with really old diesel!

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forgottenhills wrote: »

This tank is indoors as well so I don't think it has been exposed to much water. Even if it has had internal condensation, would it not be possible to use it after the bit in the bottom of the tank has been drained off (oil floats on water)? There are several hundred gallons in the tank, it would be a shame and probably costly to have to get rid of it. What I would more concerned about is that internet searches suggest that diesel will form sludges over time as the ingredients start to react. I probably need to find a rooter who has used years old diesel to see what happens with really old diesel!

Burning bushes is all its really good for, wouldnt put it near a vehicle, someone with one of those old waste oil burners ( probably illegal now but likely still exist)might have use for it

AckwelFoley

RandomViewer wrote: »

Burning bushes is all its really good for

Duncan Stewart would have a stroke if he read that

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AckwelFoley wrote: »

Duncan Stewart would have a stroke if he read that

I'd throw on a few old tyres to do it properly

jaginsligo

AckwelFoley wrote: »

Duncan Stewart would have a stroke if he read that

😂😂

jaginsligo

xavier8228 wrote: »

So my dad has decided to get rid of his beloved tractor, a Massey 135 with cab and transport box. But it isn’t in great condition. In a fit of rage a few years ago he cut the wire for the lights coz he though it killed the battery. The Diablo has also stopped working recently so it needs to be replaced. There’s quite a bit of rust around it too. I was wondering how much to advertise it for? Is 1000 euro too low? Would he get more? TIA

I'd b very slow to sell it, their ultra reliable, u just can't buy a small tractor like them anymore. My uncle's 135 was parked up for the last 6 months, I charged the battery & 1 turn of the key & it was going.
Show me a tractor that built this year that will be starting & useable in 50 years time

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jaginsligo wrote: »

I'd b very slow to sell it, their ultra reliable, u just can't buy a small tractor like them anymore. My uncle's 135 was parked up for the last 6 months, I charged the battery & 1 turn of the key & it was going.
Show me a tractor that built this year that will be starting & useable in 50 years time

They are making good money but have been for years, their simplicity makes them easy maintained and the easy availability of every part makes things easy, if the OP needs a tractor he'd be as well spend a bit on what he has rather than buy an unknown quantity,
Anything built this year will likely be scrap in 10 years, cost of repair would be too high

tred

have you the original tax book??. a fully reconditioned...sprayed show condition could make over 8grand. depending on restoration, ull spend money to get to that wiring, and dynamo not expensive fixes.

kollegeknight

I paid €4500 for a good conditioned one 7 years ago.
Our own one had very little tin work and tires to nothing with no working electrics and airlocked- got €1250 for it. Same lad bought a few things I was getting rid of.

If the box is ok, it would be €100-€150 alone.

The one I have is my go to for a lot of work, I top rushes with it, slower than the case785 but I reckon when I get stuck, the 785 pulls me out but the 135 would struggle to pull the 785 out.

But for the most part, the 135 floats on top of the soil. They are a great tractor.

Another thing would be if your dad had it a long time, you might have sentimental value in it that cannot be replaced when gone.


I still pine after the mf 188 We sold the same day as the others.

Donald Trump

RandomViewer wrote: »

Lucas dynamo/alternator is cheap and easy to rewire, less than an hours work, it should start if you charge the battery, jump-start it or give it a tow

Might want to double check it's not a MP. Although I'm not sure if there were many MP 135's

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Donald Trump wrote: »

Might want to double check it's not a MP. Although I'm not sure if there were many MP 135's

Think they were 148s

Avns1s

RandomViewer wrote: »

I'd throw on a few old tyres to do it properly

And Duncan Stewart as well if he was nearby!!

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Avns1s wrote: »

And Duncan Stewart as well if he was nearby!!

He survived Chernobyl , might be fireproof

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Cheapest one I can see on DD
https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-ferguson-135/27440143

Is the OPs in similar condition

Donald Trump

RandomViewer wrote: »

Think they were 148s

Here's an old ad for a 135 multipower so there might have been some.

https://www.adverts.ie/farm-machinery/massey-ferguson-135-multipower/337234


Edit: Another one here. Still has the multipower decal on it https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/original-massey-ferguson-135-to-make-big-money-at-uk-auction/

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Donald Trump wrote: »

Here's an old ad for a 135 multipower so there might have been some.

https://www.adverts.ie/farm-machinery/massey-ferguson-135-multipower/337234


Edit: Another one here. Still has the multipower decal on it https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/original-massey-ferguson-135-to-make-big-money-at-uk-auction/

Learn something new everyday,

Green farmer

On the flip side, ive always liked the massey 135 and reading this thread with interest. For a perspective buyer, what's the worst that could go wrong with one of these. Is it a clutch or gearbox problem ? are they expensive to fix, if the worst should happen.

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Green farmer wrote: »

On the flip side, ive always liked the massey 135 and reading this thread with interest. For a perspective buyer, what's the worst that could go wrong with one of these. Is it a clutch or gearbox problem ? are they expensive to fix, if the worst should happen.

Fairly bulletproof, parts cheap, simple enough for anyone with basic skills to work on, engines can go but very reasonable to recondition or you can buy exchange units, keep it for years and you'll get your money back

emaherx

Green farmer wrote: »

On the flip side, ive always liked the massey 135 and reading this thread with interest. For a perspective buyer, what's the worst that could go wrong with one of these. Is it a clutch or gearbox problem ? are they expensive to fix, if the worst should happen.

Every part is available new to buy, including engines, gearboxes and backends. No shortage of spares in scrap yards either, with many parts common with other tractors. There are very few that are too far beyond repair.

Clifford tractor parts built a 240 in their shop from the parts that they supply, wouldn't be very different from a late model 135.

C0N0R

Sorry jumping in here but quick question, 135 is knocking in high second - potential issues and difficulty to fix?

Figerty

Green farmer wrote: »

On the flip side, ive always liked the massey 135 and reading this thread with interest. For a perspective buyer, what's the worst that could go wrong with one of these. Is it a clutch or gearbox problem ? are they expensive to fix, if the worst should happen.

Cracked engine block is the major issue. everything else is replaceable at a resonable cost.
Clutch might be worn,but Gearboxs issues would be rares.
Wear on the lift pump or the mechanism can be a nuisance.

Figerty

xavier8228 wrote: »

So my dad has decided to get rid of his beloved tractor, a Massey 135 with cab and transport box. But it isn’t in great condition. In a fit of rage a few years ago he cut the wire for the lights coz he though it killed the battery. The Diablo has also stopped working recently so it needs to be replaced. There’s quite a bit of rust around it too. I was wondering how much to advertise it for? Is 1000 euro too low? Would he get more? TIA

1000 way too low.
If you want to annoy someone these days, put a an add on Done Deal for a massey or ford at that price with their number on it.. the will get loads of callers and chancers.

Lights are easilyt fixed. Charging is easily sorted.
Rust can wait.

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Figerty wrote: »

Cracked engine block is the major issue. everything else is replaceable at a resonable cost.
Clutch might be worn,but Gearboxs issues would be rares.
Wear on the lift pump or the mechanism can be a nuisance.

Filter and lift linkage is accessible from the side plates, even if you have to remove the lift top its straightforward, you can buy a bare block or short motor
https://www.agrilineproducts.com/massey-ferguson-short-motor-ad3-152-lip-seal-7324

emaherx

Figerty wrote: »

Cracked engine block is the major issue. everything else is replaceable at a resonable cost.

And even that can be replaced at reasonable enough cost.

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emaherx wrote: »

And even that can be replaced at reasonable enough cost.

I linked to a short motor, cant remember if its euro or pounds but around 800, cheaper than a wet belt on a Focus

Figerty

RandomViewer wrote: »

Filter and lift linkage is accessible from the side plates, even if you have to remove the lift top its straightforward, you can buy a bare block or short motor
https://www.agrilineproducts.com/massey-ferguson-short-motor-ad3-152-lip-seal-7324

Done it on the 35. Not too simple to get the mechanisms working back to full condition.

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Figerty wrote: »

Done it on the 35. Not too simple to get the mechanisms working back to full condition.

short fingers, makes things easier

Figerty

RandomViewer wrote: »

short fingers, makes things easier

Yes,, you will have short fingers if you put then in the wrong places!
Great videos on line for this machine.

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Figerty wrote: »

Yes,, you will have short fingers if you put then in the wrong places!
Great videos on line for this machine.

Naw, short fingers,big palms, easy for lining up the lift levers to the valve control behind the righthand plate, 135 is a pleasure compared to 590,,takeaway most of the cab floor to get at it

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Did the OP make a decision?