Will tourists be allowed to visit Ireland this summer if they've had their vaccine?

john9876

I'm in the UK but from Ireland originally and I own a holiday home in the west of Ireland.
I think myself and my wife will have had both jabs by July and we would like to visit Ireland in August for a few weeks with our kids.
Do you think this will be allowed?

gar32

The vaccine does not prevent the infects spreading. People who have had it still have to wear masks. A person who has been vaccinated can still get the virus. It is said the vaccine only lights the bad systems and may prevent deaths.

Does this answer your question ?

P.S. I would love to visit Ireland soon !!!!

VG31

gar32 wrote: »

The vaccine does not prevent the infects spreading. People who have had it still have to wear masks. A person who has been vaccinated can still get the virus. It is said the vaccine only lights the bad systems and may prevent deaths.

Does this answer your question ?

P.S. I would love to visit Ireland soon !!!!

This is completely untrue. Scientists involved in the vaccines stated before that they did not know if vaccines reduced transmission because there were no trials for this. Data now (unsurprisingly) shows that transmission is greatly reduced.

Data analysis in a study by the Israeli Health Ministry and Pfizer Inc found the Pfizer vaccine developed with Germany’s BioNTech reduces infection, including in asymptomatic cases, by 89.4% and in syptomatic cases by 93.7%.

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-israel-vaccine-int-idUSKBN2AJ08J

The Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine appears to substantially reduce transmission of the virus, rather than simply preventing symptomatic infections, UK researchers have suggested.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/03/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-transmission-gbr-intl/index.html

VG31

john9876 wrote: »

I'm in the UK but from Ireland originally and I own a holiday home in the west of Ireland.
I think myself and my wife will have had both jabs by July and we would like to visit Ireland in August for a few weeks with our kids.
Do you think this will be allowed?

If we had a logical, reasonable government I would say yes, but considering the solo run we did on travel in the EU last summer I wouldn't get your hopes up TBH.

aziz

Why would you want to,there’s going to be **** all open

Tenzor07

Ireland is closed, no International Tourism will occur this year.... Stay home International people, we don't want your Virus variants, stay out!! :mad:

Tenzor07

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Ireland is closed, no International Tourism will occur this year.... Stay home International people, we don't want your Virus variants, stay out!! :mad:

An Irishman living in UK who will have received the vaccine by then wants to come here for a few weeks. What’s the big deal!!

john9876

john9876 wrote: »

I'm in the UK but from Ireland originally and I own a holiday home in the west of Ireland.
I think myself and my wife will have had both jabs by July and we would like to visit Ireland in August for a few weeks with our kids.
Do you think this will be allowed?

Check department of foreign affairs website. Quarantine being brought in here but legislation around details of this not till a few weeks time. Don’t know what it would/ wouldn’t mean for you.Media leaks saying we’ll be in level 5 till mid summer which would mean very little open.

Tenzor07

gansi wrote: »

An Irishman living in UK who will have received the vaccine by then wants to come here for a few weeks. What’s the big deal!!

Thread title said "Will Tourists"....

They can still carry the "Kent" Variant and should stay in the UK.

Tenzor07

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Thread title said "Will Tourists"....

They can still carry the "Kent" Variant and should stay in the UK.

And you’ll get to decide that. Just brilliant not!!

Stheno

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Thread title said "Will Tourists"....

They can still carry the "Kent" Variant and should stay in the UK.

90% of current cases here are that variant

UDAWINNER

gansi wrote: »

An Irishman living in UK who will have received the vaccine by then wants to come here for a few weeks. What’s the big deal!!

We are still paying the price because fcukers couldn't stay away for christmas. You do realise that despite having the vaccine, you can still pass this virus so please stay the fcuk away

Tenzor07

gansi wrote: »

And you’ll get to decide that. Just brilliant not!!

Individuals can't stop people, however the Government and the Gardai will.

Tenzor07

Stheno wrote: »

90% of current cases here are that variant

Exactly, it didn't arrive by the wind... People need to stay away from Ireland, we don't want anymore variant!!

Rodney Bathgate

Y, ridiculous that we ended up with the Brazilian and South African variants here.

Tenzor07

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Y, ridiculous that we ended up with the Brazilian and South African variants here.

More travelers from abroad = more variant.

Shut the borders now!

Green Peter

UDAWINNER wrote: »

We are still paying the price because fcukers couldn't stay away for christmas. You do realise that despite having the vaccine, you can still pass this virus so please stay the fcuk away

Unless you are going to a sinn fein funeral

pottokblue

If its allowed come on over dont worry about jabs. Have a lowkey holiday in your west ireland home picnics beach etc.... enjoy you deserve your holiday. Do a Lamps/PCR test before arriving and on return. The country is currently in a mess but hopefully we'll be out of it by this summer or next....

Ohmeha

I don't envisage any non-essential incoming travel into Ireland being allowed for the rest of 2021

beachhead

gansi wrote: »

And you’ll get to decide that. Just brilliant not!!

More twanks on this thread.If we had a competent government who could organise a piss up in a brewery then it will be safe for "tourists" to visit this year.But we don't.They arn't even winging it at the moment.The vaccine jab is not a cure all.It is way too soon even for the Israelis to telling the planet what they think is right.Especially them.The vacccine does not grant immunity to anyone.It reduces the severity of an attack only for a limited period after injection.

Tenzor07

beachhead wrote: »

More twanks on this thread.If we had a competent government who could organise a piss up in a brewery then it will be safe for "tourists" to visit this year.But we don't.They arn't even winging it at the moment.The vaccine jab is not a cure all.It is way too soon even for the Israelis to telling the planet what they think is right.Especially them.The vacccine does not grant immunity to anyone.It reduces the severity of an attack only for a limited period after injection.

Exactly, who do they think they are!! The Vaccine isn't the end it's the start...! What we need is to close the Borders to those internationals for the next 3 years starting now!!!

UDAWINNER

Green Peter wrote: »

Unless you are going to a sinn fein funeral

what the fcuk has sf got with thread, or do you blame them for evrything ffs

VG31

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Exactly, who do they think they are!! The Vaccine isn't the end it's the start...! What we need is to close the Borders to those internationals for the next 3 years starting now!!!

The next 3 years?! I take it you don't have family abroad.

beachhead wrote: »

More twanks on this thread.If we had a competent government who could organise a piss up in a brewery then it will be safe for "tourists" to visit this year.But we don't.They arn't even winging it at the moment.The vaccine jab is not a cure all.It is way too soon even for the Israelis to telling the planet what they think is right.Especially them.The vacccine does not grant immunity to anyone.It reduces the severity of an attack only for a limited period after injection.

Do you have any evidence to back up that statement?

dhaughton99

Sure, this is the week last year that they all came home from their skiing holidays in Italy and infected the rest of us.

newuser99999

Green Peter wrote: »

Unless you are going to a sinn fein funeral

Get a life.

dpaulod

I'm sure by July things will open up. All the over 70's will have had a jab and government will allow tourists from so called green zones. Fingers crossed.

Beasty

Stheno wrote: »

90% of current cases here are that variant

What we don't know is what other variants will appear. The Brazilian one is now being reported in Ireland. Over the past 6 months we've seen UK, Brazil and South African variants emerge. Who's to say where the next problematical one might be? We are not going to be allowing "tourists" in until we feel we can properly guard against any emerging issues with this virus. I think people, governments and health authorities are starting to understand these issues. I also think a strategy to hold these developments at bay has not been developed yet. All we have at present is largely closed borders.

Wallander

I'm optimistic things will open up faster than many expect. The UK is now on track for full vaccination by July, and the US is in a similar position, I believe.

They are the two biggest incoming tourist markets. People might be asking by August, once these countries have herd immunity, is a mutation more likely to emerge from countries without Covid (or with very low levels of Covid) or from staycation tourists from Ireland where the virus is still circulating?

Once other countries inevitably start admitting US and UK tourists before Ireland, anyone in the tourist industry will be hopping mad after over a year of closure that their business is going to other markets.

Eric Cartman

One things for sure, the governmemt will turn a blind eye to americans and brits travelling this summer while chastising our own for leaving . It has been a double standard since lockdown 1

GT89

Just come if you want it'll likely be a similar story to last summer advisory is mandatory and guidelines are not laws

Casati

It brilliant to see returning and new tourists think about holidays here again. A vaccine passport will be introduced by then though if GB is part of this remains to be seen but it’s highly likely it will. This will allow free movement without PCR testing or isolation - both of which are needed if you travel now.

Donald Trump

gar32 wrote: »

The vaccine does not prevent the infects spreading.

VG31 wrote: »

This is completely untrue.

No it isn't. Sure your own post says next that

VG31 wrote: »

Scientists involved in the vaccines stated before that they did not know if vaccines reduced transmission because there were no trials for this. Data now (unsurprisingly) shows that transmission is greatly reduced.

Reduced =/= prevented

Casati

Donald Trump wrote: »

No it isn't. Sure your own post says next that







Reduced =/= prevented

Anybody who is not confident can stay at home till they are vaccinated or until such time they feel personally confident to go out, the rest of us are happy to listen to science and live our lives

Wanderer2010

American tourists definitely will, anyway. This government turns a blind eye when it comes to the USA, be it military planes or tourists. Look at last year, they came in their thousands up and down the country, nothing done about it.

caveat emptor

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Exactly, who do they think they are!! The Vaccine isn't the end it's the start...! What we need is to close the Borders to those internationals for the next 3 years starting now!!!

Yeah and if you want to be even more hyperbolic say we should close them for 5 ,10 or 100 years.

Donald Trump

Casati wrote: »

Anybody who is not confident can stay at home till they are vaccinated or until such time they feel personally confident to go out, the rest of us are happy to listen to science and live our lives

It's not that difficult to understand. So it always amazes me that people cannot understand it.


If you are vaccinated, it is better than if you are not, but it does not mean that you will be welcomed anywhere else.


Vaccination protects you. It will (hopefully) stop you from having serious symptoms if you encounter the virus again.


If you already had covid, you will likely have some antibodies to protect against reinfection. Similar to vaccine.

How would you feel if someone that you had to deal with up close, refused to wear a mask and reasoned "but I had it last month so I don't need one. And anyway, as you can tell, I still have a cough from it and I don't like wearing the mask while coughing".

1874

why are there 2k passengers coming from Brazil in the last 28 days, is this legitimate or essential? I don't think so, and another 3.5k from high risk countries in the same time frame, dont know if the Indo picked up on it, 28 days later, its not a movie or a joke. Just block access from certain locations or from anyone coming from or through these places, the end. What's the point of everyone locking down if the Govt/State permits the above to continue? who is in on this? and benefits because it is a forking sick joke.

Wanderer2010

1874 wrote: »

why are there 2k passengers coming from Brazil in the last 28 days, is this legitimate or essential? I don't think so, and another 3.5k from high risk countries in the same time frame, dont know if the Indo picked up on it, 28 days later, its not a movie or a joke. Just block access from certain locations or from anyone coming from or through these places, the end. What's the point of everyone locking down if the Govt/State permits the above to continue? who is in on this? and benefits because it is a forking sick joke.

Meat factory and farm workers. Doing the jobs most Irish people wont do. Thats why they are here.

gw80

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Meat factory and farm workers. Doing the jobs most Irish people wont do. Thats why they are here.

This old tripe.if you'll pardon the pun

franciscanpunk

if vaccinated people can't come this summer on the basis they may bring variants of the disease does that mean they can't come in 2022 either or 2023\2024? Maybe 2025 is ok!

Donald Trump

gw80 wrote: »

This old tripe.if you'll pardon the pun

When is the last time you checked the ads for meat factory or farm work?

Tenzor07

1874 wrote: »

why are there 2k passengers coming from Brazil in the last 28 days, is this legitimate or essential? I don't think so, and another 3.5k from high risk countries in the same time frame, dont know if the Indo picked up on it, 28 days later, its not a movie or a joke. Just block access from certain locations or from anyone coming from or through these places, the end. What's the point of everyone locking down if the Govt/State permits the above to continue? who is in on this? and benefits because it is a forking sick joke.

No direct flights in from Brazil, so they ain't coming in on Ryanair... most likely coming in on charter flights to work in a certain "Good man's" meat processing plants...
No one in FineFail or Fine Bailout are going to stand up to the owner, so expect flights to continue coming and going, and there's nothing you can do about it.

is_that_so

Tenzor07 wrote: »

No direct flights in from Brazil, so they ain't coming in on Ryanair... most likely coming in on charter flights to work in a certain "Good man's" meat processing plants...
No one in FineFail or Fine Bailout are going to stand up to the owner, so expect flights to continue coming and going, and there's nothing you can do about it.

They probably live here. There are over 13,000 Brazilians in Ireland.

xhomelezz

Casati wrote: »

Anybody who is not confident can stay at home till they are vaccinated or until such time they feel personally confident to go out, the rest of us are happy to listen to science and live our lives

Not so sure if that post makes sense.

Are you not living your life, while listening to science?

Wanderer2010

gw80 wrote: »

This old tripe.if you'll pardon the pun

Contradict me with facts please, not tired and baseless insults.

Harry Palmr

The beef barons still have the ear of the government. So the meat packers will continue to move about unhindered.

God knows about tourism, the state hasn't shown any stomach for defending Ireland from Covid variants coming in thus far so there's no reason to expect that to change.

xhomelezz

franciscanpunk wrote: »

if vaccinated people can't come this summer on the basis they may bring variants of the disease does that mean they can't come in 2022 either or 2023\2024? Maybe 2025 is ok!

Give it time will you. Vaccination is only starting. We'll see.

Casati

Donald Trump wrote: »

It's not that difficult to understand. So it always amazes me that people cannot understand it.


If you are vaccinated, it is better than if you are not, but it does not mean that you will be welcomed anywhere else.


Vaccination protects you. It will (hopefully) stop you from having serious symptoms if you encounter the virus again.


If you already had covid, you will likely have some antibodies to protect against reinfection. Similar to vaccine.

How would you feel if someone that you had to deal with up close, refused to wear a mask and reasoned "but I had it last month so I don't need one. And anyway, as you can tell, I still have a cough from it and I don't like wearing the mask while coughing".

Agreed those who had Covid will likely be immune in a similar fashion to those that are vaccinated and have much reduced chance of being able to transmit it to anybody else.

Some think vaccine passports are overkill - Ie once you vaccinate elderly and vulnerable then most people are happy to get on with living.

Those people that are not comfortable can lock themselves up for the rest of their lives but the rest of us will be getting back to normal either way

xhomelezz

Casati wrote: »

Agreed those who had Covid will likely be immune in a similar fashion to those that are vaccinated and have much reduced chance of being able to transmit it to anybody else.

Some think vaccine passports are overkill - Ie once you vaccinate elderly and vulnerable then most people are happy to get on with living.

Those people that are not comfortable can lock themselves up for the rest of their lives but the rest of us will be getting back to normal either way[/QUOTE]

Same nonsense in some variables is being posted since last march, by now you should know it's not workable.

beggars_bush

a lot of people will still get a ferry over to NI and drive down to the ROI

Atlantic Dawn

Tenzor07 wrote: »

No direct flights in from Brazil, so they ain't coming in on Ryanair... most likely coming in on charter flights to work in a certain "Good man's" meat processing plants...
No one in FineFail or Fine Bailout are going to stand up to the owner, so expect flights to continue coming and going, and there's nothing you can do about it.

They are coming in through Portugal primarily, the media needs to be asking how many Brazilian passport holders arrived here since Christmas, the figures would be mindblowing.

Once we have Group 7 vaccinated I don't really care how many tourists are arriving in.