Best car under 3,000 and 5,000

nurik922

Hi All

Can you please advise best car under

1. 3,000 eur
2. 5,000 eur

Will be first car so don't want to have any issues next 2 years. Thanks

Buddy Bubs

nurik922 wrote: »

Hi All

Can you please advise best car under

1. 3,000 eur
2. 5,000 eur

Will be first car so don't want to have any issues next 2 years. Thanks

You'll need to give a lot more information about what you want from the car for people to be able to help.
How many doors/sears
How much mileage will you do

For a first car you'll have to stay small enough for insurance I'd say

Put Fiesta, yaris, Clio, Peugeot 208, micra, corsa into donedeal and put 5000 as max price and see what kind of cars come back for a start. They're the common ones in Ireland. And maybe Hyundai i20 and Kia Rio.

Good news is there's plenty of good, small cars in the 3000 to 5000 price bracket.

nurik922

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

You'll need to give a lot more information about what you want from the car for people to be able to help.
How many doors/sears
How much mileage will you do

For a first car you'll have to stay small enough for insurance I'd say

Put Fiesta, yaris, Clio, Peugeot 208, micra, corsa into donedeal and put 5000 as max price and see what kind of cars come back for a start. They're the common ones in Ireland. And maybe Hyundai i20 and Kia Rio.

Good news is there's plenty of good, small cars in the 3000 to 5000 price bracket.

Thanks for advice. Basically, it will be to drive to office (both house and office are in Dublin within M50) and back plus driving around city on weekends and driving to countryside during summer for holidays. Would say 10k mileage per year.

Can drive both, but prefer automatic.

Doors/seats don't make too much difference, but not considering universal since family of 3 only.

Was thinking of likes of 3 Series BMW, Audi A4, etc but not sure what will be their condition for that budget

AMKC

BMWs and Audis of that age will likely be costly to run and maintain.

How about a Toyota Corolla or a Honda Civic or a Mazda 3 saloon?

Buddy Bubs

For that budget you're close to the bottom end of 3 series and a4s for sale. Not rock bottom, but at least 10 years old and high mileage.
Plus basic spec.
You'll get walloped on insurance until you build no claims bonus no matter what you drive but especially on these.
They won't be maintenance free for 2 to 3 years at that money either. You'd want to know your way around them or have someone that does.
Look elsewhere is my suggestion, come back to audi and BMW at a later date.
You'll be able to buy one for 5k but if your budget is tight, don't. I've done it but was clued in on what to look for.

c1aran

nurik922 wrote: »

Was thinking of likes of 3 Series BMW, Audi A4, etc but not sure what will be their condition for that budget

You said this will be your first car, if you're a newly qualified young driver insurance will be a big cost.

I'd grab a few reg plates off done deal for some of the cars listed above and also the BMW and the Audi and ring around the insurance companies for a quote and see what the damage is.

passatman86

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2013-kia-ceed-estate/26794164

bazz26

I don't think the OP really needs a diesel or an estate from the sound of it.

OP, have you factored in insurance? Being your first car what you buy might be determined by what you can afford to insure.

bazz26

This looks nice if the mileage and history can be verified:



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-i30-deluxe-1-4-only49k-stunning-car-as-new/27140191

You would get a good few years out of that if it's genuine. 12 months NCT and a bit of tax on it.

nurik922

AMKC wrote: »

BMWs and Audis of that age will likely be costly to run and maintain.

How about a Toyota Corolla or a Honda Civic or a Mazda 3 saloon?

Would definitely consider Civid hybrid (not hatchback)

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-2008-1-3-petrol-hybrid-automatic/27142351

Will age of this car and hybrid engine cause any difficulty?

nurik922

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

For that budget you're close to the bottom end of 3 series and a4s for sale. Not rock bottom, but at least 10 years old and high mileage.
Plus basic spec.
You'll get walloped on insurance until you build no claims bonus no matter what you drive but especially on these.
They won't be maintenance free for 2 to 3 years at that money either. You'd want to know your way around them or have someone that does.
Look elsewhere is my suggestion, come back to audi and BMW at a later date.
You'll be able to buy one for 5k but if your budget is tight, don't. I've done it but was clued in on what to look for.

will going for 3rd f30 or 5th f10 series around 10-12k change the situation? or the same comments will be applicable again?

nurik922

c1aran wrote: »

You said this will be your first car, if you're a newly qualified young driver insurance will be a big cost.

I'd grab a few reg plates off done deal for some of the cars listed above and also the BMW and the Audi and ring around the insurance companies for a quote and see what the damage is.

actually got my full licence in another EU country (also right hand driving) back in 2017 and changed it to Irish one in 2020. So overall 4 years licence as of today and 1 full year on Irish driving licence. But never owned a car, only used rented cars. Still to expect high insurance quotes?

nurik922

bazz26 wrote: »

I don't think the OP really needs a diesel or an estate from the sound of it.

OP, have you factored in insurance? Being your first car what you buy might be determined by what you can afford to insure.

yes, expecting it to be around 2k for the first year.

Correct, won't consider estate, but will consider diesel for sure

punisher5112

nurik922 wrote: »

actually got my full licence in another EU country (also right hand driving) back in 2017 and changed it to Irish one in 2020. So overall 4 years licence as of today and 1 full year on Irish driving licence. But never owned a car, only used rented cars. Still to expect high insurance quotes?

Pick a car on donedeal, use reg and spec etc to do online quotes, yes insurance will be high as you have zero no claims.

Look at likes of Aygo or Yaris or other small cars as such for cheaper quotes.

Sorry missed the 1year no claims but still be high enough....

nurik922

would anyone here recommend lexus is 220? but they are quite old like 2008ish

punisher5112

nurik922 wrote: »

would anyone here recommend lexus is 220? but they are quite old like 2008ish

Honestly no....


The diesel engine is made of chocolate and other major components attached to said chocolate engine

nurik922

punisher5112 wrote: »

Pick a car on donedeal, use reg and spec etc to do online quotes, yes insurance will be high as you have zero no claims.

Look at likes of Aygo or Yaris or other small cars as such for cheaper quotes.

Sorry missed the 1year no claims but still be high enough....

do you know if that still will be considered as zero claim despite the fact that i never owned but rented a car?

c1aran

nurik922 wrote: »

actually got my full licence in another EU country (also right hand driving) back in 2017 and changed it to Irish one in 2020. So overall 4 years licence as of today and 1 full year on Irish driving licence. But never owned a car, only used rented cars. Still to expect high insurance quotes?

That's good, definitely better than being an 18 year old with a fresh test in your hand, but in Ireland the claims free bonus is everything. Usually you get 10% off your premium for every year you have a policy and don't claim on it, up to 5 years or 50% off. So it is usually very advantageous to drive a car with cheap insurance for a couple of years and then it's much cheaper to run a more risky (nicer, more powerful) car.

Unfortunately it's really hard to guess what your premium will be, so best bet is to browse the various sites for cars that you might be interested in, make a list of registration plates and then ring around a couple of companies and ask for quotes on each car. Then you'll get an idea of what you can expect to pay.

do you know if that still will be considered as zero claim despite the fact that i never owned but rented a car?

Not for the purposes of the claims free bonus but it might help that you don't have a fresh license. To be honest it's black magic how they come up with premiums so your best bet is to ask a few insurance companies yourself.

punisher5112

nurik922 wrote: »

do you know if that still will be considered as zero claim despite the fact that i never owned but rented a car?

Not sure

nurik922

c1aran wrote: »

That's good, definitely better than being an 18 year old with a fresh test in your hand, but in Ireland the claims free bonus is everything. Usually you get 10% off your premium for every year you have a policy and don't claim on it, up to 5 years or 50% off. So it is usually very advantageous to drive a car with cheap insurance for a couple of years and then it's much cheaper to run a more risky (nicer, more powerful) car.

Unfortunately it's really hard to guess what your premium will be, so best bet is to browse the various sites for cars that you might be interested in, make a list of registration plates and then ring around a couple of companies and ask for quotes on each car. Then you'll get an idea of what you can expect to pay.



Not for the purposes of the claims free bonus but it might help that you don't have a fresh license. To be honest it's black magic how they come up with premiums so your best bet is to ask a few insurance companies yourself.

Would you know by any chance if using insurance broker will be of any benefit? or better to deal with the insurance companies directly?

punisher5112

nurik922 wrote: »

Would you know by any chance if using insurance broker will be of any benefit? or better to deal with the insurance companies directly?

It could really depends.

Look up liberty, chill, quote devill, its4woman, AXA, fbd etc etc....

Try brokers too....

Best to set aside a few hours and do it.

nurik922

also another general questions - which website would be best for cars? donedeal? facebook marketplace?

how much it is usually possible to get a discount from the advertised price?

also noted that those on facebook marketplace are much cheaper compared to donedeal and others - presume they are not "clean" cars?

punisher5112

nurik922 wrote: »

also another general questions - which website would be best for cars? donedeal? facebook marketplace?

how much it is usually possible to get a discount from the advertised price?

also noted that those on facebook marketplace are much cheaper compared to donedeal and others - presume they are not "clean" cars?

Donedeal for me.....

Use to be carzone but they got greedy and it's mainly dealers now.

User1998

nurik922 wrote: »

also noted that those on facebook marketplace are much cheaper compared to donedeal and others - presume they are not "clean" cars?

Loads of dodgy cars being sold by fake profiles

Buddy Bubs

nurik922 wrote: »

will going for 3rd f30 or 5th f10 series around 10-12k change the situation? or the same comments will be applicable again?

Spending 10 to 12k on a 3 or 5 series will bring you to a 2012 or so car and you'll be into the lower mileage ones rather than the top end mileage. Theres good ones out there for sure but do your sums on it and make sure you can afford it. Google bmw timing chain problems if you are looking at them. I'd never discourage anyone from looking at nice cars but your budget has gone from 3 to 5 to 10 to 12 and it costs a bit more to keep on the road.
Same goes for Audi. They're not catastrophically expensive to run just not as cheap as people think or expect when buying a 10 grand car. Even a 10 grand one will be pretty old, have an annual nct and covered 100k miles plus.

nsnoefc1878

passatman86 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2013-kia-ceed-estate/26794164

That front seat is a disgrace.

zg3409

Really you need to consider a car with friendly/low insurance. Your insurance could be 4,000 each year and you need to minimise this loss. Try get a car with a small engine, and physically small. Before you buy anything get a firm insurance quite and shop around between brokers and instance direct. The insurabce annual bill could be far higher than annual depreciation of the car.

Even a 1.0L versus a 1.2L could be 500 more in insurance every year. Factor in motor tax or 200-500 depending on the car. Factor in repair and servicing costs.

If you are a 3 person family you need back doors (not a 3 door) and you don't say if you need boot space for buggy, pram, or other essentials. Some small cars can manage this but you might need a test fitting. Cars over 10 years old particularly often have higher insurance costs.

Get a few quotes and try to start with a small engine car for first 3 years.

Idbatterim

Nissan leaf if you can charge outside your door. Might not have range for country trips though... but very little to go wrong and cost v a 3-5k car fossil fuel car

bazz26

What's the battery range on those first gen Leafs, 100km? You might spend more time charging it than driving it. A leap card might be a better and cheaper option.

User1998

I think 50km would be more realistic this time of year

bazz26

That would just do my head in. That's why they are so cheap second hand now.

nurik922

are they hybrid or electric only? driving usually Yuko cars hybrids and love them tbh