Staff collecting money

Away With The Fairies

For birthday gifts, raffles and other things.

I've done away with using money with the pandemic. But there's always some sort of collection going in work and I don't know what to say. While they aren't asking for much and I don't want to look stingy, it is alot of hassle going to the ATM machine, taking out a 20 and then having to break the 20 to find change.

Even the last time, I was asked, I was told I could buy a raffle ticket and bring in the money when I have it in a few more days. Even with this, I hadn't planned on taking out cash at the ATM at all. Even giving me a few days is hassle.

How are workplaces still allowing the swapping of money like this? Should I get over this and just pay up? Or do I say something?

meggiemegmeg

We do it by Revolut and get a voucher. No cash swapped

superbluedub

Get over it and pay up.

Bob Harris

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

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How are workplaces still allowing the swapping of money like this? Should I get over this and just pay up? Or do I say something?

Is the issue the hassle of getting the cash or you just don't want to contribute?

If you don't want to contribute for either reason then I'd politely decline whatever is on offer.

duffman13

Either say no and forget it

Or put 50 quid in 5ers in your pocket, if you dont use cash it'll last a while.

Depends who close you are with people you work but I'm on a small team so id always chip in

Mimon

begbysback wrote: »

There’s no way I’d donate for someone’s birthday in work, and fcuk raffles. What’s the other things?

I remember I started a new job and was broke while I was waiting for my first pay packet. One lad was organising a collection for a manger that was leaving and had the gall to ask me to contribute 20 euro like everyone else.

Firstly I didn't know the manager, was in the job a few days and hadn't got it so said no. He was taken aback. Zero common sense to ask me in the first place.

Yamanoto

Cash collections shouldn't be happening at the moment. Easy enough to organise via apps.

Mrs OBumble

Yamanoto wrote: »

Cash collections shouldn't be happening at the moment. Easy enough to organise via apps.

Covid is spread by droplets and aerosol. The chances of getting it off cash are small. Most businesses that switched to card-only in March are now happy to take cash again.

Apps only work if everyone has signed up for the app you choose. Personally I don't even give my cellphone number to work WhatsApp groups.

ari101

Worked somewhere where collecting was not allowed. Card, cake, going for a leaving lunch/drinks, work away, but no money. Almost everyone was a big fan, took pressure off those financially strapped (or lifers who always got hit up ;-) ). People used their own money to buy themselves a drink or some lunch if they knew the person well enough to go to either/wanted to.

1874

Mimon wrote: »

I remember I started a new job and was broke while I was waiting for my first pay packet. One lad was organising a collection for a manger that was leaving and had the gall to ask me to contribute 20 euro like everyone else.

Firstly I didn't know the manager, was in the job a few days and hadn't got it so said no. He was taken aback. Zero common sense to ask me in the first place.

Main problem there not even related to Covid, 20 quid, good luck

Yamanoto

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Covid is spread by droplets and aerosol. The chances of getting it off cash are small. Most businesses that switched to card-only in March are now happy to take cash again.

Apps only work if everyone has signed up for the app you choose. Personally I don't even give my cellphone number to work WhatsApp groups.

Cash won't be the vector. I suppose someone trudging round the office from person to person looking for money is a great idea though.

Cool.

Mrs OBumble

Yamanoto wrote: »

I suppose someone trudging round the office from person to person looking for money is a great idea though.

Cool.

Leave the card and an envelope in a central place. Email to tell people where to find it and when it will be there.

RandomViewer

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Leave the card and an envelope in a central place. Email to tell people where to find it and when it will be there.

Thats how its done with us only noticeboard rather than email, GDPR

Pistachio19

Just say no, you don't carry cash. Don't make promises to bring it in another day. These ridiculous practices of looking for money for a present, or a raffle shouldn't be allowed as nobody knows anyone's financial circumstances. It's unfair to put pressure on people. Maybe if you say no, others will feel more comfortable saying no and it will all fizzle out.

Jim2007

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I've done away with using money with the pandemic. But there's always some sort of collection going in work and I don't know what to say. While they aren't asking for much and I don't want to look stingy, it is alot of hassle going to the ATM machine, taking out a 20 and then having to break the 20 to find change.

You know they allow you take out more than 20 Euro at a time? A novel idea might be to take out 50 or 100, break it up it small amounts, packed in little bags so you don't need to touch it and of course sanatise your hands.



Even the last time, I was asked, I was told I could buy a raffle ticket and bring in the money when I have it in a few more days. Even with this, I hadn't planned on taking out cash at the ATM at all. Even giving me a few days is hassle.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Should I get over this and just pay up? Or do I say something?

Probably, are you going around sanitizing everything you are about to touch at work?

drunkmonkey

Sorry but this is just insanity, cash is safe, was your hands, don't lick notes or chew on coins.

Zebrag

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

For birthday gifts, raffles and other things.

I've done away with using money with the pandemic. But there's always some sort of collection going in work and I don't know what to say. While they aren't asking for much and I don't want to look stingy, it is alot of hassle going to the ATM machine, taking out a 20 and then having to break the 20 to find change.

Even the last time, I was asked, I was told I could buy a raffle ticket and bring in the money when I have it in a few more days. Even with this, I hadn't planned on taking out cash at the ATM at all. Even giving me a few days is hassle.

How are workplaces still allowing the swapping of money like this? Should I get over this and just pay up? Or do I say something?

It's not stingy at all to say no. It's your money and you do whatever please.
You don't carry cash that's fine. That's your preference.
I've often said no to a collection based on this fact and to be honest I've often offered to transfer money though Revolut and told no to complicated so I've said okay that's grand and left it at that. I'm like you, I wouldn't go to an ATM to withdraw a sum just to break into it.
Usually I would say I don't have it on me now and I don't follow up on it. It someone ask again I say the same thing and leave it at that.
I'm not going to make promises I can't kept and make someone think I'm going to give them money when honestly half the time I've forgotten to even go to an ATM
I wouldn't class it as stingy as you're stating you don't have cash on you and you're not following it up by saying I'll have it by the end of the week

Seve OB

RandomViewer wrote: »

Thats how its done with us only noticeboard rather than email, GDPR

So it’s against the GDPR law to lash an internal email around an office to say that Mary is leaving on Friday?

yabadabado

It has given me great pleasure saying no to certain collections in the work place.

Some of the collections people have started were ****ing embarrassing.

yabadabado

Seve OB wrote: »

So it’s against the GDPR law to lash an internal email around an office to say that Mary is leaving on Friday?

Some people have no clue what GDPR is but just throw it out to cover all bases.

RandomViewer

Seve OB wrote: »

So it’s against the GDPR law to lash an internal email around an office to say that Mary is leaving on Friday?

Not everyone works in offices, so not internal,

rostalof

RandomViewer wrote: »

Not everyone works in offices, so not internal,

But how is putting the details on a noticeboard any different? If indeed there are GDPR issues at play, they would apply to posting the details on a noticeboard as much as they do to emails. GDPR doesn't just apply to digital data, physical documents are covered by the legislation in the exact same way.

Bob Harris

RandomViewer wrote: »

Not everyone works in offices, so not internal,

If it's a mail sent from an internal mailbox, it's internal wherever you're working.

The J Stands for Jay

RandomViewer wrote: »

Not everyone works in offices, so not internal,

Pretty much nobody works in offices these days.

Lmkrnr

What about Jenny who runs for X charity.. Jenny needs to raise 3k for her run. If she does the flight, hotel and race entry are paid for her.

Or Kevin who wants 10 a head for Billy, because he will be walking to a summit around Ireland.

B.A._Baracus

It's just a whip around. Plenty of places do it, op.
That said you are not obligated to give a single cent. I know what you are saying, you don't want to come off as a stingy fecker but who who cares if you don't give anything.

But why not just develop more of a bs spiel out of yourself.... Ie "ah Jimmy is leaving is he? Money is a bit tight right now I'll see where I'm at in a couple of days yeah?" - blah blah.

RandomViewer

rostalof wrote: »

But how is putting the details on a noticeboard any different? If indeed there are GDPR issues at play, they would apply to posting the details on a noticeboard as much as they do to emails. GDPR doesn't just apply to digital data, physical documents are covered by the legislation in the exact same way.

CC everyone on the email,everyone's personal email is listed, notice just says Mary goes on Friday, donations in envelopes, leave with ####, now do you get it?

NSAman

Seve OB wrote: »

So it’s against the GDPR law to lash an internal email around an office to say that Mary is leaving on Friday?

Let’s just hope Mary knows she is leaving on Friday.

B.A._Baracus

rostalof wrote: »

But how is putting the details on a noticeboard any different? If indeed there are GDPR issues at play, they would apply to posting the details on a noticeboard as much as they do to emails. GDPR doesn't just apply to digital data, physical documents are covered by the legislation in the exact same way.

No offense but posting that (in this example quoted) that 'Mary is leaving on Friday' on a noticeboard and to have a whip around sparks debate of GDPR issues you are taking this too serious.

ari101

RandomViewer wrote: »

CC everyone on the email,everyone's personal email is listed ...

Ah, if a company email account sent this out CCing a load of personal emails, it could be a breach of GDPR. The sender could be viewed as acting on behalf of the company (so the purely personal exemption to GDPR would not apply) and this person might be seen as collecting, storing and sharing personal contact info...

In my experience stuff like this has only been sent through and to company emails, but that only works if everyone has a company email they regularly access and use, non office workers may not, fair point.

rostalof

RandomViewer wrote: »

CC everyone on the email,everyone's personal email is listed, notice just says Mary goes on Friday, donations in envelopes, leave with ####, now do you get it?

Do you know what bcc is? Now do you get it?

rostalof

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

No offense but posting that (in this example quoted) that 'Mary is leaving on Friday' on a noticeboard and to have a whip around sparks debate of GDPR issues you are taking this too serious.

I didn't say there were GDPR issues. I said if, as the other poster stated, there were GDPR issues with sending content via email, then the same content is sensitive information whether it's digital or hard copy. I had no idea the (non) GDPR issue related to cc ing emails instead of using bcc.

RandomViewer

rostalof wrote: »

Do you know what bcc is? Now do you get it?

Never heard of it until you mentioned it and our office staff definitely haven't heard of it , they were nearly crucified over a stupid Covid email, everything is text with a link now,

1874

How is even collecting money a thing ever for someone leaving? Ive been asked for donations in the past, but a few quid to get someone a small gift is a better idea imo and in the future a more memorable thing to have if they were leaving and liked the people/place. Now, I've no doubt a person leaving would like a nice wodge of money, I just dont see how it can be justified, especially when its asked of people who barely know them.

B.A._Baracus

rostalof wrote: »

I didn't say there were GDPR issues. I said if, as the other poster stated, there were GDPR issues with sending content via email, then the same content is sensitive information whether it's digital or hard copy. I had no idea the (non) GDPR issue related to cc ing emails instead of using bcc.

So.. you're saying you didn't mean GDPR issues. Then go on to say if it was sent by email, then MAYBE, there could be GDPR issues....

I get your post. I know what you mean. But it is a bit silly tho. Silly being defined as it's hardly an issue type of thing if you get me.

I have no problem gifting amounts for people I have worked with or interacted in a positive way with. Anyone else, well sorry they may be a fab person but I don't know them from Adam (orEve), so no contribution coming forth.

Another way to show your appreciation for a colleague is to leave a recommendation for them on LinkedIn. In my experience people are usually delighted with these and you are giving something that is eminently useful in their future success.

KevRossi

This was banned in the last two places I worked in.

Usually the team/section got a cake for the person if it was their birthday. If you were leaving you got a card. If anyone wanted to go out for drinks for birthdays/leaving then that was arranged. No collections allowed for climbing Kilimanjaro etc.

No financial pressure on anyone, saved a fortune, and a lot of embarrassment and bitterness.

Bob Harris

Deleted User wrote: »

Another way to show your appreciation for a colleague is to leave a recommendation for them on LinkedIn. In my experience people are usually delighted with these and you are giving something that is eminently useful in their future success.

rostalof

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

So.. you're saying you didn't mean GDPR issues. Then go on to say if it was sent by email, then MAYBE, there could be GDPR issues....

I get your post. I know what you mean. But it is a bit silly tho. Silly being defined as it's hardly an issue type of thing if you get me.

So obviously you don't get my post. The whole point is, there is no GDPR issue, as others have said here, it's a term that gets wheeled out way too often in situations where it has no relevance.

Seve OB

rostalof wrote: »

So obviously you don't get my post. The whole point is, there is no GDPR issue, as others have said here, it's a term that gets wheeled out way too often in situations where it has no relevance.

Couldn’t have said it better myself

HildaOgdenx

Mimon wrote: »

I remember I started a new job and was broke while I was waiting for my first pay packet. One lad was organising a collection for a manger that was leaving and had the gall to ask me to contribute 20 euro like everyone else.

Firstly I didn't know the manager, was in the job a few days and hadn't got it so said no. He was taken aback. Zero common sense to ask me in the first place.

Slightly similar story here, wasn't working in the place very long, came back from A/L to find an email telling me I owed 25 quid or something for a wedding present for Paul.
Paul was on another team, the extent of out interaction was 'hello' if we met on the office floor. I didn't even know he was getting married. My manager was the queen of collectors, and was probably earning twice my salary, and Paul was probably earning three times my salary. I ignored the email.
No issue with contributing most of the time but I drew the line there. Especially at being told I owed it, as opposed to being asked if I wanted to contribute.

OP, tbh, I think it's a bit off that people are doing collections, even aside from covid, which I know is your main concern. Nobody knows other people's financial circumstances. And a lot of people are down money, these times.

I would offer to pay by some other means, if it suits you, as in you want to contribute. If you don't, just politely decline. I know in the case of Paul and his very fancy wedding (which it was, I believe) there was another person who genuinely could not afford the 25 quid, and would have gone without, in order to save face, so that she could pay it.

AndrewJRenko

KevRossi wrote: »

This was banned in the last two places I worked in.

Usually the team/section got a cake for the person if it was their birthday. If you were leaving you got a card. If anyone wanted to go out for drinks for birthdays/leaving then that was arranged. No collections allowed for climbing Kilimanjaro etc.

No financial pressure on anyone, saved a fortune, and a lot of embarrassment and bitterness.

The other option is to say 'envelope is on Johnny's desk for those who want to contribute'. No pressure, no passing of envelopes. Probably not great for Covid times, but there's got to be a digital equivalent too.

B.A._Baracus

rostalof wrote: »

So obviously you don't get my post. The whole point is, there is no GDPR issue, as others have said here, it's a term that gets wheeled out way too often in situations where it has no relevance.

Cool story bro