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Commission lets Germany off the hook for coronavirus vaccine solidarity breach

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,864 ✭✭✭✭ namloc1980


    The poll says 300m but it's actually 30m.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭ monkeybutter


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The poll says 300m but it's actually 30m.

    That kind of clownshoes mistake is just in line with all his other posts

    Story has been repeated over and over, the EU has purchased a shed load of vaccine, these will be delivered after the rest

    Non story


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭ gozunda



    So EU Commissioner Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen who is German - ignores Germany breaking the EU vaccine procurement agreement.

    Well that's a surprise.

    Just as Germany decision to block a large order and shipment of face masks enroute to Austria last March

    Just as Germany closed its borders with other EU countries at the start of the Pandemic when we were been told we couldn't do it here

    Just as German Bond holdings got their returns and we got shafted.

    Great to be part of such an equitable community

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,864 ✭✭✭✭ namloc1980


    gozunda wrote: »
    So EU Commissioner Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen who is German - ignores Germany breaking the EU vaccine procurement agreement.

    Well thats a surprise.

    Just as Germany decision to block a large order and shipment of face masks entourage to Austria last March

    Just as Germany closed its borders with other EU countries at the start of the Pandemic when we were been told we couldn't do it here

    Just as German Bond holdings got their returns and we got shafted.

    Great to be part of such an equitable community

    ;)

    Germany agreed this back in September. Were people outraged then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭ gozunda


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Germany agreed this back in September. Were people outraged then?

    I dunno. Was the EU?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,864 ✭✭✭✭ namloc1980


    gozunda wrote: »
    I dunno. Was the EU?

    As I recall when it first came up people were saying every country should do their own deals on top of the EU arrangement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭ gozunda


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    As I recall when it first came up people were saying every country should do their own deals on top of the EU arrangement.

    Afaik it was agreed that the "no member state on a legal-binding basis was allowed to negotiate in parallel or to have a contract in parallel,"

    Eitherway the outcome of this could be interesting...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭ Melanchthon


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Germany agreed this back in September. Were people outraged then?

    Was this even public back in September, people have been talking about countries making other orders but it has been shot down as against the agreement.
    In a way the German action was a good thing as it caused the EU to put in a 300 million dose order. However has it been confirmed that the German top up is coming after the EU top up?
    Anyway for a apparently rules based organisation it isn't great even if there isn't much direct consequences that the powerful countries know they will never be sanctioned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 857 ✭✭✭ PintOfView


    I don't know all the details, but if the EU president is saying that side deals are not allowed then this doesn't look good, as all these vaccines are coming out of the same pot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭ mick087


    Should we not be thinking of getting in Stella Kyriakides butchers shop queue.

    Does our own government have a plan or is just follow the EU Commission blindly.

    Why would a union of countries even want side orders? That to me is not a union.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭ Northernlily


    Didn't Germany go on a solo run with PPE last year by confiscating shipments to other countries.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,744 ✭✭✭✭ is_that_so


    Didn't Germany go on a solo run with PPE last year by confiscating shipments to other countries.
    They used or tried to use export controls. There was lot of that kind of thing back in March, including the US almost high jacking shipments on the tarmac!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭ landofthetree


    Germany is always breaking the rules.


    Germany is now the biggest breaker of EU rules, according to new statistics on enforcement actions started by Brussels against member states.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-merkel-germany-breaks-more-eu-rules-worst-bottom-class-a8198271.html%3famp


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭ gozunda


    Germany is always breaking the rules.

    ....

    No change there then ...

    See especially the period from WW1 to WW2 ;)


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