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Hollywood careers that just ended abruptly

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    "Difficult to work with" is a term bandied around quite a lot, and i would think in quite a lot of cases it's absolute rubbish...

    In a lot of cases, it's a euphemism for "won't give in to studio/producer/shareholder interference".


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    S.M.B. wrote: »

    Kutcher is a very successful tech venture capitalist and is extremely well off as a result. No need to do tough movie shoots when you've got a net worth of $200 million and growing.

    He also spends most of his time and money on the charity he founded to combat child porn/exploitation, tbh he seems like a really admirable person.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    i went to tallaght cinema to see supertroopers 2 as it was the only cinema showing it, myself, my missus and a random lady pensioner .....i'd love to know what the pensioner made of it :)

    Yeah, its right on that line of fart jokes at times


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,145 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Does it work against men? Difficult men are seen as some sort of artists and have to literally kill someone to be black listed and even at that have big comebacks

    I don't agree. There are actors like the aforementioned Bruce Willis or Chevy Chase, whose reputations for being total àssholes on set have no doubt caused a diminishing in top roles. In the case of Chase, his career effectively buried after his 80s heyday.

    Some like Christian Bale can be "difficult to work with", but more on the spectrum of just being rather intense with their method and role playing. Being a total prima Donna or straight up dick to others will eventually get you blacklisted. Especially if you become box office poison.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,699 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I don't agree. There are actors like the aforementioned Bruce Willis or Chevy Chase, whose reputations for being total àssholes on set have no doubt caused a diminishing in top roles. In the case of Chase, his career effectively buried after his 80s heyday.

    Some like Christian Bale can be "difficult to work with", but more on the spectrum of just being rather intense with their method and role playing. Being a total prima Donna or straight up dick to others will eventually get you blacklisted. Especially if you become box office poison.

    All the actors mentioned have had amazing careers


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,145 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    All the actors mentioned have had amazing careers

    Never said that they don't, just remarking that "difficult to work with" only lasts so long in the business before too many bridges are burned to keep one in the top tier. Which the like of Willis is most certainly not part of anymore. There's definitely a grey area when it comes to "artists" as you say, but those tend to be more overt thespians like Christian Bale who can get away with it a bit more. Being a better actor usually helps lol.

    The emphasis here is on "had" a good career anyway; Val Kilmer is probably a better example, where shoots like the Island of Dr. Moreau & Batman Forever proved to be the point where his attitude on-set was an actual nightmare and pushed him away from the Hollywood a-list he had hitherto occupied (to the point on thespians, Kilmer shot Dr. Moreau with also infamous ásshole, Marlon Brando, whose own career kinda stalled into b-movie slush over being a noted, "mercurial" ásshat)


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,795 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Does it work against men? Difficult men are seen as some sort of artists and have to literally kill someone to be black listed and even at that have big comebacks

    the guy who played Hoch on criminal minds became person non grata , he had a history of being a prick but I think he hit someone on the set

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,699 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    silverharp wrote: »
    the guy who played Hoch on criminal minds became person non grata , he had a history of being a prick but I think he hit someone on the set

    Money talks , I guess a wife beater., actor assailant who brings in the viewers can get away with things


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,205 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Guttenburg really is the ultimate example for me. Emilio Estevez is another who just disappeared.

    "On September 27, 2020, during an interview on a Zoom call with Norm Macdonald, Guttenberg confirmed that filming had begun on an eighth Police Academy movie. He confirmed that his character was returning and that his character is wheelchair bound, having lost his foot in the line of duty. "

    :eek: Hopefully the sound effects guys is on board too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,911 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Jennifer grey from dirty dancing seemed to more or less vanish after that film. Didn’t she get a nose job ?

    Her career vanished at the same time as her nose.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,774 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    I remember how odd it was when, after big roles in Yes Man, Elf and especially 500 Days of Summer in the 2000s, Zooey Deschanel became a TV star in New Girl. That was the end of a movie career, overnight.

    Speaking of 500 Days of Summer, Joseph Gordon-Levitt was on fire from 2009-2013 (500 Days, The Dark Knight Rises, Looper, Inception, Don Jon) and then... not much at all really. Seems to be making a comeback of sorts but he made a lot of poor choices in a short span of time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Speaking of 500 Days of Summer, Joseph Gordon-Levitt was on fire from 2009-2013 (500 Days, The Dark Knight Rises, Looper, Inception, Don Jon) and then... not much at all really. Seems to be making a comeback of sorts but he made a lot of poor choices in a short span of time.

    I read an interview with him recently and he purposefully took a step back for a few years but has had a few releases in the last 12 to 18 months or so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I remember how odd it was when, after big roles in Yes Man, Elf and especially 500 Days of Summer in the 2000s, Zooey Deschanel became a TV star in New Girl. That was the end of a movie career, overnight.

    Used to be that being a "TV actor" would kill your career, but streaming and big budget TV shows have more draw than movies now, especially with bigger paychecks, more stable work. TV show acclaim can eclipse even big-budget movies.

    Have a look at 2019. Avengers was the biggest movie, but there was more hype for GoT than "another" Marvel movie, and more hate for GoT too :D:D
    Maybe it's just me and the circles I move in, but 2-5 top grossing for 2019 (Lion King, Frozen 2, Spiderman, Captain Marvel) were all fairly meh and had very little acclaim.

    Pedro Pascal in Mandalorian & GoT
    Jason Momoa in GoT
    Billy Bob Thornton in Fargo
    Matthew McConaghey/ Woody Harrelson, Rachel McAdams, Vince Vaughn, and Colin Farrell were all in True Detective
    William H Macy in Shameless
    Julia Roberts in Homecoming
    Dwayne Johnson in Ballers
    Anthony Hopkins in Westworld
    Henry Caville in the Witcher
    Cillian Murphy in Peakly Blinders

    You could argue that some are past their prime and probably want an easy life, but they're far from obscure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭dubstepper


    :eek: Hopefully the sound effects guys is on board too!


    You bet. It's all he has :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    What happened to the boldwin brothers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭check_six


    All the actors mentioned have had amazing careers

    Willis is notoriously cranky. He causes trouble on shoots he's not even part of. When the Game of Thrones lads were trying to shoot the duel between The Mountain and Oberyn Martell he had a boat parked in the background. They asked all the other boat owners to move, and they were happy to do so. Willis threw a strop and refused to move. This escalated to him hooning up and down the seafront in the boat trying to interrupt the filming out of spite. Willis in real life is the type of guy who could do with a solid puck in the gob from John McClane.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,774 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Used to be that being a "TV actor" would kill your career, but streaming and big budget TV shows have more draw than movies now, especially with bigger paychecks, more stable work. TV show acclaim can eclipse even big-budget movies.

    Have a look at 2019. Avengers was the biggest movie, but there was more hype for GoT than "another" Marvel movie, and more hate for GoT too :D:D
    Maybe it's just me and the circles I move in, but 2-5 top grossing for 2019 (Lion King, Frozen 2, Spiderman, Captain Marvel) were all fairly meh and had very little acclaim.

    Pedro Pascal in Mandalorian & GoT
    Jason Momoa in GoT
    Billy Bob Thornton in Fargo
    Matthew McConaghey/ Woody Harrelson, Rachel McAdams, Vince Vaughn, and Colin Farrell were all in True Detective
    William H Macy in Shameless
    Julia Roberts in Homecoming
    Dwayne Johnson in Ballers
    Anthony Hopkins in Westworld
    Henry Caville in the Witcher
    Cillian Murphy in Peakly Blinders

    You could argue that some are past their prime and probably want an easy life, but they're far from obscure.

    Yes, but unlike your examples, this wasn't pre-Prime and Netflix streaming dominance and wasn't HBO, AMC or Showtime. It was a sitcom on Fox that wasn't really a critical darling or anything and it was pretty much her full-time job for seven years. At the time I thought she would have warranted something bigger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Staying in the theme of Back to the Future and Eric Stoltz...

    Leah Thompson is another who never really went much further than there

    I know she had her own sitcom in the 90's and is sporadically in TV shows, but you rarely see her in films anymore


  • Registered Users Posts: 59,988 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I remember how odd it was when, after big roles in Yes Man, Elf and especially 500 Days of Summer in the 2000s, Zooey Deschanel became a TV star in New Girl. That was the end of a movie career, overnight.

    Speaking of 500 Days of Summer, Joseph Gordon-Levitt was on fire from 2009-2013 (500 Days, The Dark Knight Rises, Looper, Inception, Don Jon) and then... not much at all really. Seems to be making a comeback of sorts but he made a lot of poor choices in a short span of time.

    And she made about $20m from that show so I'm sure she is happy with the decision.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    check_six wrote: »
    Willis is notoriously cranky. He causes trouble on shoots he's not even part of. When the Game of Thrones lads were trying to shoot the duel between The Mountain and Oberyn Martell he had a boat parked in the background. They asked all the other boat owners to move, and they were happy to do so. Willis threw a strop and refused to move. This escalated to him hooning up and down the seafront in the boat trying to interrupt the filming out of spite. Willis in real life is the type of guy who could do with a solid puck in the gob from John McClane.

    Hadn’t heard that story. Willis was singled out by Colm meaney as a rude dick onset.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    Sherilyn Fenn of Twin Peaks fame - never heard anything of her since Boxing Helena in mid-90's.
    Then she turned up on season 3 of Goliath last year - funnily enough there was a Twin Peaks-esque feel to the whole season, some odd goings on and drug induced dream sequences.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Yes, but unlike your examples, this wasn't pre-Prime and Netflix streaming dominance and wasn't HBO, AMC or Showtime. It was a sitcom on Fox that wasn't really a critical darling or anything and it was pretty much her full-time job for seven years. At the time I thought she would have warranted something bigger.

    Suppose you're right.

    I think personal circumstances also play into a lot of the obscurity mentioned here.
    Deschanel hit 30 in 2010 when filming started, was recently married, and got a writing gig on the show.
    Maybe a steady TV job was better than moving around for filming and worrying about auditions, promotions, and box office receipts.

    A lot of other actors probably just reach a point where they've made their money and go on to other things.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Rebecca De Mornay,what happened there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    tipptom wrote: »
    Rebecca De Mornay,what happened there?

    She became MILF :eek: Atta boy Stifler ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 59,988 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    tipptom wrote: »
    Rebecca De Mornay,what happened there?

    Last I saw her was on Netflix's Jessica Jones


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    tipptom wrote: »
    Rebecca De Mornay,what happened there?

    She was in Netflix Jessica Jones a few years ago...that was the last I saw of her


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    pixelburp wrote: »

    Not quite a Hollywood actor, but was thinking of Ardal O'Hanlon recently for similar reasons. Post Father Ted, he had a brief career but seems to have just completely disappeared from screen.

    Huh? He is a stand up comedian who acts on the side, and wasn't he recently in Death in Paradise.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HostilityOnTheSet/LiveActionFilms

    A great entry explaining many of the mentions here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HostilityOnTheSet/LiveActionFilms

    A great entry explaining many of the mentions here

    Michael Caine & Pierce Brosnan in The Fourth Protocol.... Caine one of the genuinely nice guys in movies said he would never work with that man again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭OU812


    brinty wrote: »
    Staying in the theme of Back to the Future and Eric Stoltz...

    Leah Thompson is another who never really went much further than there

    I know she had her own sitcom in the 90's and is sporadically in TV shows, but you rarely see her in films anymore

    Very in demand director in TV (married to Howard Deutch who directs her in Some Kind Of Wonderful) for 32 years.

    Fred Savage is another one who went behind the camera & is also in demand for sitcoms etc.


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