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Will any Sportives go ahead in 2021?

  • 22-01-2021 9:25am
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    Posts: 531 ✭✭✭


    I am beginning to doubt if they will,

    Tour de Burren cancelled for June 2021.

    Cycling Ireland have published a list of events for 2021, which now seem unlikely, while at the same time they are getting savaged on FB for increasing the fee for leisure cyclists in 2021, with no events in 2020, and looking doubtful for 2021.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭oisinog


    I signed up for one in the glens of Antrim in June.

    There was no charge but there is an ask you commit to raising money for a cancer Charity. I wont start raising the money until nearer the time but they are looking at as many different options as possible.

    Also the Lap of the Lough is planned but again will see nearer the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭lissard


    When you can't cycle more than 5k from home on your own, it's hard to envisage a scenario in the near future that would allow you to travel all over the country and mix with hundreds of other cyclists both out on the road and in enclosed feed zones. Can't see it happening this year. Club rides yes, but big sportive style events I very much doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I find it hard to see until well into the Autumn to be honest. I'd be more hopeful of racing, as per the what was allowed in that brief period where racing happened.

    Personally, bar the ones that bounced on from 2020, I won't be signing up to any (yet).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    lissard wrote: »
    When you can't cycle more than 5k from home on your own, it's hard to envisage a scenario in the near future that would allow you to travel all over the country and mix with hundreds of other cyclists both out on the road and in enclosed feed zones. Can't see it happening this year. Club rides yes, but big sportive style events I very much doubt.


    You have to realize that the 5k limit isn't carved in stone, therefore will not remain indefinitely..

    Anyways, I would estimate that any Sportives will be late in the year, possibly September or October...
    ... that goes for most Cycle races too..


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,394 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    I think later in the year, there'll be a few unofficial gathering of cycling enthusiasts. No money but maybe voluntary donations and ham sandwiches in the parish hall at the end.

    https://ormondelanguagetours.com

    Walking Tours of Kilkenny in English, French or German.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭oisinog


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    You have to realize that the 5k limit isn't carved in stone, therefore will not remain indefinitely..

    Anyways, I would estimate that any Sportives will be late in the year, possibly September or October...
    ... that goes for most Cycle races too..

    I know here in the North the R rate has dropped to about 0.5 the hope that this continues to drop or remain the same and the relative slowing of the virus in the hotter months could lead to some aspects of normal life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I think they're going to be extremely cautious, given the new variants, and the indications that as well as being more transmissible that having a different variant may not offer any protection.

    Lakelander Gravel Grinder is all I have in my calendar as a mass participation event, although I should have an entry to Lap the Lough too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Weepsie wrote: »
    The distance limits will change, but the mass gatherings will be slower to remove.Even if it's outdoors, there will be a lot of backlash if sportives are given a go ahead and weddings (even with the increased risk of indoor gatherings) are still limited and businesses restricted. At least imo

    Would be challenges for event organisers to get Garda / council approval or even insurance for the next 6 to 8 months... though this can't continue forever, though having said that I've yet to see the Irish Governments plans for exiting restrictions....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭lissard


    This could be a good year to turn your hand to Audax if you feel a pressing need for long distance challenges. I know there are several Audax routes (Permanents) that can be undertaken at a date of your own choosing - you are completely on your own.
    https://www.audaxireland.org/audax/permanents/
    Obviously they are out the question until the county wide restrictions are lifted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    There was a few within County permanents published, wasn't there? Can't find them on the site though - I'd pencilled in doing the Wicklow one anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭NamelessPhil


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    There was a few within County permanents published, wasn't there? Can't find them on the site though - I'd pencilled in doing the Wicklow one anyway.

    The link above gives a list of all the permanent routes currently available.
    This is the Ardattin permanent that stays within Wicklow.
    https://www.audaxireland.org/audax/permanents/ardattin-200-wicklow-permanent/

    Or there's the Cill Mhantain 200 also within Wicklow. https://www.audaxireland.org/audax/permanents/cill-mhantain-200-permanent/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,174 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    I don't think there will be any mass gatherings until the Autumn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    billyhead wrote: »
    I don't think there will be any mass gatherings until the Autumn.

    You left out 2024/5. And that is being optimistic.

    I'm just following the science, people!


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Most people will not get the vaccine until later on in the year and I don't think anything official will be permitted until after the "regular season"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    I'm seeing a few challenges being organised from early summer which are not mass start, e.g. here is a gpx file, ride this course over this weekend in a group of max 4, upload it to Strava, no food stops or support etc. Not really the same as a sportive but for this year it is all I expect from organised rides. I'll try do a few of these once they are allowed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭NamelessPhil


    I'm seeing a few challenges being organised from early summer which are not mass start, e.g. here is a gpx file, ride this course over this weekend in a group of max 4, upload it to Strava, no food stops or support etc. Not really the same as a sportive but for this year it is all I expect from organised rides. I'll try do a few of these once they are allowed.


    That's pretty much an Irish Audax!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    You left out 2024/5. And that is being optimistic.

    I'm just following the science, people!

    What makes you say 2024/2025?


  • Posts: 531 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Another one gone.........

    Ride Dingle cancelled for 2021


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭funnights74


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    You have to realize that the 5k limit isn't carved in stone, therefore will not remain indefinitely..

    Anyways, I would estimate that any Sportives will be late in the year, possibly September or October...
    ... that goes for most Cycle races too..

    If the guards went through Strava there would be plenty of arrests, the same as in lockdown 1 certain jurisdictions are turning a blind eye cycling groups of 5 or 6 and unless you get a particularly grumpy Guard they simply give you a wave.


  • Posts: 531 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If the guards went through Strava there would be plenty of arrests, the same as in lockdown 1 certain jurisdictions are turning a blind eye cycling groups of 5 or 6 and unless you get a particularly grumpy Guard they simply give you a wave.

    I suppose it annoys me that I can cycle the 8km into work, Monday to Friday, because I work in what is deemed an essential service, but can't do the same route on the weekend.
    Makes no sense


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭funnights74


    If the guards went through Strava there would be plenty of arrests, the same as in lockdown 1 certain jurisdictions are turning a blind eye cycling groups of 5 or 6 and unless you get a particularly grumpy Guard they simply give you a wave.

    I Mentioned this to a guy at work and he laughed, there are guys still their regular 50+ up to 100 kms every week.
    Back to the thread title i messaged the RoK a few weeks ago and am still waiting for a reply, highly unlikely this or anything before September will happen. Rebel tour, Tour de Kilkenny maybe, but anything else probably not.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I suppose it annoys me that I can cycle the 8km into work, Monday to Friday, because I work in what is deemed an essential service, but can't do the same route on the weekend.
    Makes no sense

    Why should cyclists be different from anyone else? Any "concession" only results in a divide between cyclists and others

    If you need to go into work, then you have a valid reason. A leisure cycle simply is not "valid" beyond the 5km. Nor is a run, or a walk, or indeed a swim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,573 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    looks like cycling ireland dont think there will be sportives for a loooooong time !

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  • Posts: 531 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ring of Kerry cancelled for 2021


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭who_ru


    there won't be any sportives this year either, lets face it 2021 is a write off much the same as 2020 was. we'll be lucky to get out on a solo spin at this stage. no such issues in the UK where solo cycling is still permitted and not restricted to 5kms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    The problem organisers have is the uncertainty, that's why the relatively early decisions are being made. It's not like they can leave it to even 4 weeks to go to make a call.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Level 4 from March, which would mean within county club spins (under the "training" interpretation CI/ Sport Ireland have taken to date).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,309 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Clubs should plan for Level 4 restrictions from March. So groups of 15 or less within your county.

    I've suggested to our club that we organise a club sportive for club members. It can be run /planned at short notice etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭nilhg


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Clubs should plan for Level 4 restrictions from March. So groups of 15 or less within your county.

    I've suggested to our club that we organise a club sportive for club members. It can be run /planned at short notice etc.

    I wouldn't hold my breath for any loosening of restrictions bar trying to get the schools back very gradually.

    The Gov got it very wrong for Xmas, they will be much more cautious now till the vaccines roll out more widely, and even at that the various variants will be a fly in the ointment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,503 ✭✭✭secman


    Prof Nolan had already indicated that current restrictions will not lift on 5th March, a full month in advance. Looks like the case reduction has stalled at 1,000 per day, and 2/3 of cases are the UK variant. So not looking good, we can't have another start up and lockdown. I think the plan is to hold firm to allow the vaccine roll out to finally push the numbers down and keep them down. Don't think spotives are high on the agenda.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Clubs should plan for Level 4 restrictions from March. So groups of 15 or less within your county.
    I've changed my opinion overnight really - I see them easing to more standard level 5, rather than going level 4. i.e. Schools and Construction.
    07Lapierre wrote: »
    I've suggested to our club that we organise a club sportive for club members. It can be run /planned at short notice etc.
    My club did a "Wicklow 100/200" over the summer, in covid compliant groups. It worked well actually. No food stops/ mechanical support, so I guess more like a club audax. The different paced spins just went off with each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,872 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Sportives? Races?

    I'd like my child to get to school & for myself to travel more than 5km down the road in March!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,309 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Macy0161 wrote: »


    My club did a "Wicklow 100/200" over the summer, in covid compliant groups. It worked well actually. No food stops/ mechanical support, so I guess more like a club audax. The different paced spins just went off with each other.

    Yep, that's what i had in mind. I'm still optimistic that we'll be in level 4 in June/July, which means our Club can organise a spin up to 200k while still remaining inside County Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I dunno....how would an organiser be able to enforce distancing on cyclists? Race marshals can barely do it during triathlons :pac:

    And mates will cycle beside mates all day long so it's a tricky one for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭ridelikeaturtle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,503 ✭✭✭secman



    Again ! Was cancelled yesterday too :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭ridelikeaturtle


    Ah crap, I'm sorry, I didn't read the earlier posts - my mistake!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    The blind optimism, is refreshing.

    Jesus wept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Corker1


    I am a firm believer in having something to look forward to. I hope that there will be at least a few sportives run at some stage this year. Though a lot of stars will have to align for society and the economy to have opened sufficiently before the time is right to run a sportive safely and responsibly. We are tentatively planning on running the Reservoir Dog in September. Though we will just have to see where we are in relation to the Pandemic over the summer. But if we can run it safely, we would love to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Please, please let this happen!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    No gatherings of over 50 until Autumn.

    https://www.businesspost.ie/

    Cant see how any summer sportives can go ahead in that case. Will have to see what CI say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭nilhg


    Biker79 wrote: »
    No gatherings of over 50 until Autumn.

    https://www.businesspost.ie/

    Cant see how any summer sportives can go ahead in that case. Will have to see what CI say.

    Indoors it says.....

    Not promising but not a total death knell for the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,872 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Biker79 wrote: »
    No gatherings of over 50 until Autumn.

    https://www.businesspost.ie/

    Cant see how any summer sportives can go ahead in that case. Will have to see what CI say.

    With respect to CI & all involved they will do as they are told/allowed. At best it will be the same as last season for me which is fine, I got plenty racing in with all events feeling safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Wicklow 200 now officially gone for 2021..... :(

    https://twitter.com/wicklow200/status/1361267014543769602?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    It's a year for the revival of the club sportive I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭cunavalos


    Might be a better option to jump the queue for the vaccine and sort out some PCR tests for a trip to GC. UCI series sportive through the Valley of the Tears to go ahead next month.

    https://desafiolatitanica.es/en/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭2 Wheels Good


    Fred Whitton in Yorkshire postponed to Sept with the option to defer to 2022, have deferred.


  • Posts: 531 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tour de Connemara and Ring of Clare now cancelled


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Corker1


    The Reservoir Dog Sportive is now confirmed on the CI Calendar for Sunday 5th September. Keep those vaccines coming!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    Ring of Beara cycle also cancelled this year now .. rescheduled to 28th May 2022


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    The CI calendar has quite a few sportive entries, as of yesterday.

    It says ' Events that are pending date approval will not appear on the calendar. '

    So they are approved for the calendar, but yet its still unclear if they will actually take place.. :confused:

    Nothing in the news section since Feb 2nd.


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