Skoda Octavia 1.0ltr 115bhp Ambition spec 2018

kravmaga

Hi Folks,

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2724650&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D80%26o%5B%5D%3D682%26l%5B%5D%3Dp2%26f%3D1%26yn%3D2018%26yx%3D2021%26g%3D0

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2725027&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D80%26o%5B%5D%3D682%26l%5B%5D%3Dp2%26f%3D1%26yn%3D2018%26yx%3D2021%26g%3D0

Looking at up-grading to a Skoda Octavia 2018, white one has a 2 year warranty offered, very low mileage, 1 previous owner.

Two cars Im looking at , same year , difference price quoted.

It does not have the chrome pack like the Octavia Style spec though.

Would it be possible to get an upgrade from the dealer to chrome pack.

Any feedback on the cars, white is €17,950 a tad high? Red is €15,990

Both are well within my budget

Thanks

colm_mcm

Maybe off topic but when did you buy your last car or are you still on the hunt for a petrol Octavia after all these years

kravmaga

No your grand Colm, Ive a 16-2 reg which I bought in Nov 2019.

It does not have the reverse camera or front parking sensors.

I nearly reversed into a fixed bollard in a car park the other day, so I want a camera

User1998

You know you can get OEM reverse cameras installed for around €300?

kravmaga

Was not aware of that, thanks, I will talk to my local Skoda dealer.

Any feedback on the two cars which i linked

colm_mcm

kravmaga wrote: »

No your grand Colm, Ive a 16-2 reg which I bought in Nov 2019.

It does not have the reverse camera or front parking sensors.

I nearly reversed into a fixed bollard in a car park the other day, so I want a camera

I fitted a camera to mine, cost about €60 and around 2 hours work.

Not sure if that will work on your headunit if you don’t have sensors.

McCrack

Both are bog standard octavias, both are depreciating heavily

colm_mcm

Here are the 2018 specs


Active


Ambition


Style



Interesting that the one linked is only €4300 less than the list price of an Ambition when it was new 3 years ago.
(Or €1800 less than a base model 3 years ago)

kravmaga

colm_mcm wrote: »

I fitted a camera to mine, cost about €60 and around 2 hours work.

Not sure if that will work on your headunit if you don’t have sensors.

Is it an OEM Skoda brand camera?

Ive rear parking sensors on my 16-2 reg ambition model

colm_mcm

It’s not Skoda branded, it replaces the boot switch, same as the Skoda one does.





Picture quality is better than in the photo.
The install is basically:
Remove inner trim from the boot
Swap over the switches
Run video cable from boot switch to glovebox
Get power for the camera (I got mine from the rear wiper)
Remove the media drive from the top of the glovebox and connect the camera to the connector block
Do a small bit of coding to activate the camera

road_high

colm_mcm wrote: »

Here are the 2018 specs


Active


Ambition


Style



Interesting that the one linked is only €4300 less than the list price of an Ambition when it was new 3 years ago.
(Or €1800 less than a base model 3 years ago)

Shows much car prices have risen in a short space of time

kravmaga

The point being here is most 2018 Skoda Octavia Ambition spec models are retailing at 18k

colm_mcm

Your 162 is probably worth, what €13k retail, so you might be asked €6-7k to change up.
If all you want is the camera, even getting someone to fit one will only be a few hundred.
Those 181s are mad money in my opinion. You’d have bought a new Ambition for €21k straight back then.

McCrack

kravmaga wrote: »

Jaysus thanks a mill for the insight, should I slit my wrists

Lol that's grim too!

kravmaga

McCrack wrote: »

Both are bog standard octavias, both are depreciating heavily

Dont all cars depreciate heavily, its not just Skoda brand.

colm_mcm

Restive to their new price, those ones have hardly depreciated at all.

Dilbert75

Anyone know anything about the long-term reliability of the 1.0TSI engine?

DaveyDave

Dilbert75 wrote: »

Anyone know anything about the long-term reliability of the 1.0TSI engine?

Over 3 years and 43,000km so far in my Golf. Turbo was replaced under warranty after a year as it sounded like a rattly diesel, other than that no issues.

Rusky rusky

DaveyDave wrote: »

Over 3 years and 43,000km so far in my Golf. Turbo was replaced under warranty after a year as it sounded like a rattly diesel, other than that no issues.

Same here, have a 181 golf estate with 1.0tsi dsg, ab 43k, turbo replaced under warranty ab a year ago due to rattling. No other problems.

Dilbert75

Is it just me or is that not a good sign? Turbo failures after 43k....would want to be getting a warranty with one.

kravmaga

kravmaga wrote: »

Hi Folks,

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2724650&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D80%26o%5B%5D%3D682%26l%5B%5D%3Dp2%26f%3D1%26yn%3D2018%26yx%3D2021%26g%3D0............. is €17,950 a tad high? ..............

Both are well within my budget

Thanks

If a 181 for €18k is well within budget would you not just go for a new one........

AMBITION
17" Rotare alloy wheels
Rear view camera
Cruise control
Climatronic dual-zone air conditioning ......... €25.5k

DaveyDave

DaveyDave wrote: »

Over 3 years and 43,000km so far in my Golf. Turbo was replaced under warranty after a year as it sounded like a rattly diesel, other than that no issues.

Rusky rusky wrote: »

Same here, have a 181 golf estate with 1.0tsi dsg, ab 43k, turbo replaced under warranty ab a year ago due to rattling. No other problems.

Dilbert75 wrote: »

Is it just me or is that not a good sign? Turbo failures after 43k....would want to be getting a warranty with one.

They seem to have failed after a year...... so more like 15k kms........ barely due first service........... woeful stuff IMO.

Dilbert75

Augeo wrote: »

They seem to have failed after a year...... so more like 15k kms........ barely due first service........... woeful stuff IMO.

Yep. Wonder was it just one bad lot of turbos or is there more to it?

Presume it's the wastegate is wearing on them?

Edit .......... google throws up this.......
https://www.vwvortex.com/threads/vw-golf-7-5-1-0-tsi-turbo-actuator-rattle.9420053/

"VW know about this fault and it is either the rob or the turbo.. from what i have been told that are trying to work out if changing the actuator rod or the turbo is the best solution...
It under you car is under warranty still Ii would take it to the VW dealer and log it so it will fixed under warranty once the solution is released"

That's a recent enough post

DaveyDave

I don't know if I'd call that woeful, a part failing on a car isn't a new concept. It wasn't down on power, the car never missed a beat and it was replaced well within warranty. Getting it diagnosed was a bit of a pain but I wouldn't have an issue buying another one. Woeful would be Toyota's stuck accelerator killing people or the manufacturer that had the airbag recall for them going off spontaneously. Everything has a fail rate.

Toyotafanboi

I think it would be naive to act like turbo's failing is a new complaint, turbo's have been failing for as long as turbos have existed.

We've had a 1.2 Octavia on the market for like 8 years now with no major stumbling blocks, so moving to a 1.0 isn't unthinkable in terms of mechanical capabilities and reliability.

I would associate the wastegate/ actuator chattering in those 1.0 engines more to do with VW's inability to make any dependable/ robust component across the last two decades rather than it being technically difficult or too strenuous to run a 1.0 engine in what would traditionally be considered a "bigger car".

DaveyDave

DaveyDave wrote: »

I don't know if I'd call that woeful, a part failing on a car isn't a new concept. It wasn't down on power, the car never missed a beat and it was replaced well within warranty. Getting it diagnosed was a bit of a pain but I wouldn't have an issue buying another one. Woeful would be Toyota's stuck accelerator killing people or the manufacturer that had the airbag recall for them going off spontaneously. Everything has a fail rate.

I'd class a major component needing replacement after a year as woeful.

If it happened outside of warranty I'm sure you'd change your tune.

Toyotafanboi sums it up well 'I would associate the wastegate/ actuator chattering in those 1.0 engines more to do with VW's inability to make any dependable/ robust component across the last two decades'.

Everything as a fail rate and it seems VAGs wastegate have quite a bit more than they should in the early part of their bathtub curve.

Like, FFS you were barely due an oil change and you needed a replacement turbo. Woeful in anyone's book IMO.

Lol at your part failing not being a new concept spiel.... If you'd a breakdown a week you could say that every week.

DaveyDave

Augeo wrote: »

I'd class a major component needing replacement after a year as woeful.

If it happened outside of warranty I'm sure you'd change your tune.

Toyotafanboi sums it up well 'I would associate the wastegate/ actuator chattering in those 1.0 engines more to do with VW's inability to make any dependable/ robust component across the last two decades'.

Everything as a fail rate and it seems VAGs wastegate have quite a bit more than they should in the early part of their bathtub curve.

Like, FFS you were barely due an oil change and you needed a replacement turbo. Woeful in anyone's book IMO.

Lol at your part failing not being a new concept spiel.... If you'd a breakdown a week you could say that every week.

If there was reports of it effecting more than say 10% of these engines then fair enough but I don't know how widespread the issue is. There's stories of people on here being back and forth with a garage over less and they didn't fight me like Hyundai do with clutch replacements. I drove the car fine for 2-3 months while VW figured it out, it doesn't seem like it's a big deal other than being a bit noisy. It's something people should certainly be aware of but it's not like I needed a tow truck after being stranded on a hard shoulder in the rain. I haven't seen any forum posts to suggest people had issues driving their cars.

If it was out of warranty, provided the issue was unreasonable and within the lifespan of the turbo I'd certainly change my tune, I expect things to perform as they should and last a reasonable amount of time.

I'm not even defending VW here. The line about the faulty part concept isn't spiel, if I had a breakdown every week I'd absolutely be complaining about it and likely reconsider buying another VAG car.

Toyotafanboi

The problem with VW stuff is it manages to be really nice for a good price point which really helps yoh look past the **** they give. I'd be a victim of it myself.

colm_mcm

I think they underdevelop some components and let the customers do the beta testing.

I'll just reiterate my point, a turbo replacement after approx little more than an oil change interval on a new car is IMO woeful.
In this topic yourself and another chao both got turbo done under warranty on the same engine......... you at 15k kms and the other chap at maybe 30k kms....... to me that's woeful and indicative that it's not at all uncommon.

I'd also describe the Hyundai clutch issue as woeful.

Personally I'd not be overly pleased driving a newish car that I'd shelled out my hard earned cash on for a few months whilst "while VW figured it out" ......... having an issue like that would annoy me

colm_mcm

Clutch is easy to pass off as driver error.

Toyotafanboi

colm_mcm wrote: »

I think they underdevelop some components and let the customers do the beta testing.

"I think" it's done to keep you in touch with the dealer, genuinely.

I see a comment further back in the thread about being left stranded. Is there a report from any breakdown providers that shows make or model stats?

I'd say VW leave very very few owners stranded anymore, the cars give huge amounts of issues but mostly niggly things like noise complaints or broken convenience items, you never really hear of anything new ish sitting down on the road and dying.

I reckon they are happy to have the components built to a budget in certain areas and are happy to take the hit on cost of warranty claims etc as it keep the owner in touch with the dealer network and saying the right things. Jaysis the new Golf is a great yoke, never let me down but the window switch did break last year, the lads in Krank Feane's got me sorted in no time.

I'd say if you walk through any carpark in the country and pick and <5 year old VAG product an an example, it'd be very difficult to find one that hasn't got a warranty claim of some variety against it.

That's my little conspiracy theory anyway, i think they are a great brand for weird creative madness like that.

Unlike say Hyundai where you can spend 60k on a brand new Santa Fe and find the slave cylinder has let go, leaving you with no clutch at in the first 1000kms. Different degree of **** altogether and kind of shows the leaps and bounds between different brands.

Dilbert75

colm_mcm wrote: »

Clutch is easy to pass off as driver error.

Yes but all drivers can't be the problem. And they brought out an uprated clutch kit, didn't they?

kravmaga

colm_mcm wrote: »

Your 162 is probably worth, what €13k retail, so you might be asked €6-7k to change up.
If all you want is the camera, even getting someone to fit one will only be a few hundred.
Those 181s are mad money in my opinion. You’d have bought a new Ambition for €21k straight back then.

I was only offered 11k for my 162 reg Octavia against the 2018 Style spec with the camera and sat nav, chrome pack, so 7k to trade up , mad money.

So Im just going to upgrade my current 162 with the reverse camera as you suggested.