What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121837310#Comment_121837310

Trump is also underperforming vs. the polls.

In New Hampshire the polls said he should have won by 18 points. He only won by 11.

In South Carolina the polls said he should have won by 28 points. He won by 20.

The polls say he should have won Michigan by 58 points. He won by 41 points.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121837867#Comment_121837867

The key question is how will those voters that aren't voting for him in the Primaries choose to behave in November?

Their behaviour and perhaps reactions to any legal outcomes during the next few months will be critical.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121837867#Comment_121837867

Primary polls are, for the most part, irrelevant now. What matters is the Trump/Biden poll.

https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

roosterman71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121837974#Comment_121837974

Where they irrelevant before the primaries or is just since the primaries ended?

Raoul Duke III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121837974#Comment_121837974

Trump ahead in AZ, GE, NV, PA, WI, MN...that is not a good picture at all.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838005#Comment_121838005

Primary polls are relevant to the specific party, if there's a challenge. Once a candidate is decided, the primary polls arent relevant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838049#Comment_121838049

It's a very good or very bad picture depending on your allegiances. As a GOP/Trump fan I'm much more optimistic than I was at this time in 2016 or 2020. With the right targeted canvassing and ad spending, Trump has every chance of winning this. And, playing devil's advocate, if he does it's 110% the fault of the democrats for not ousting Biden.

Raoul Duke III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838063#Comment_121838063

I really hope you are a disappointed Trumpist come the day after the election - but I will agree with your point on Biden. He is very, very vulnerable.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838063#Comment_121838063

The Dems would have looked far weaker if they turned on their incumbent sitting President, considering a) the economy has grown during Biden's term, b) sitting Presidents always have a huge advantage going for re-election (Trump is one of the very few who failed to be re-elected), and c) the line from the GOP would have been that the Dems are showing they made a mistake supporting Biden for the last few years, why would you trust them now?

The only thing people can really point to Biden on is "He's older than he was 4 years ago". Yes, he moves slower than he did, looks more frail, and mixes up his words a bit more. That's not enough for the Dems to have pulled the ripcord on him for.

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836797#Comment_121836797

Like the colleague I mentioned earlier in the thread who said to me with a straight face "Trump is a character but Biden is a crook!".

Me: ??? Er... 🧐 Are you maybe confusing their names or something??

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838134#Comment_121838134

How'd ya like dem drug prices, economy, student debt forgiveness?

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838134#Comment_121838134

I'm sure there are many more out there that share your view re "disappointed trumpist"

I'm almost concerned with DJT leading in the polls that people or the backroom staff will be too complacent.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838165#Comment_121838165

Yes, I agree with most, it would have been difficult, but Biden had originally said he only wanted one term. If he could have been persuaded to not run again, it would have been better for the democrats IMO.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838208#Comment_121838208

I certainly would not be a fan of student loan forgiveness if I had paid my student loans in full or in part already, and others got theirs for free. The american economy is not all great either, unless you work in tech and have avoided the layoffs! Theres a large part of the country struggling. I wouldn't put the economy, student loan (partial) forgiveness, or drug prices as something Biden should be pushing. None are likely to win swing voters. Biden needs to hold blue states and win multiples of tossup states like WI, AZ, PA - although the GOP are leading in most of those in most polls.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838293#Comment_121838293

Why are you against drugs (like insulin) being affordable?

What is Trump doing to lure swing voters? From my (biased - I cannot abide the rapist) position, all I see is him whining about how unfair it is that the courts are after him, or that Joe Biden is old (like he is some spring chicken himself!)

I'm not as worried. Polls are no longer reliable. When was the last time polls were right?

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838465#Comment_121838465

Why are you against drugs (like insulin) being affordable?

Because they don't need insulin.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838645#Comment_121838645

Same with "I certainly would not be a fan of student loan forgiveness if I had paid my student loans in full or in part already, and others got theirs for free."

Which amounts to "I wouldn't be a fan of people not having to be in debt for decades if I had been in debt for decades"

The failure of previous governments to tackle the absurd cost and impact of student loans on people does not mean successive governments should enforce and protect that cost and impact on future generations.

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838645#Comment_121838645

One of the most telling statistics regarding the US disdain for their sick, poor & weak is IMO at least, the rate of amputation encountered by diabetics in the US.

https://www.usavascularcenters.com/blog/pad-and-diabetic-amputation-statistics/

The US is no place to have a chronic illness if one isn't wealthy. The diabetes angle hits home as it's an illness that I suffer (and if memory serves? You too?)

My diabetes would quite literally bankrupt me within a couple of years stateside. Whereas here, and in most other developed countries. It is afforded a level of support in health spending that assures complications are avoided. Avoiding complications and keeping people healthy? Keeps people productive and contributing longer, it raises economic output.

The retreat from Truman's National Healthcare plan for post WW2 and the wedding of social care, social democracy and public healthcare to Communism, was a masterful stroke by US health insurers at the time. It's a smear that has stuck like a limpet.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838645#Comment_121838645

I said before and will say it again: my wife has a long term illness that requires a steroid injection every 2 weeks to maintain health of her legs. Thanks to our drugs scheme it's "only" 144 every month; if we lived in America we'd be on skid row because this otherwise innocuous drugs cost thousands.

To be against lower drugs pricing is just at best misanthropic and a real "fúck you I'm fine" kinda attitude towards those whose illnesses are unavoidable, deleterious and require constant medicinal intervention.

robinph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121838293#Comment_121838293

Yes, I agree with most, it would have been difficult, but Biden had originally said he only wanted one term. If he could have been persuaded to not run again, it would have been better for the democrats IMO.

If Trump had just faded away into obscurity like any other ex-president then I'm sure Biden would not be considering a second term and would have happily retired himself and left it to a straight fight between two new contenders. But with a lunatic ex-president still on the scene the Democrats have to play their incumbent presidential hand to counter any recognition bonus Trump might have.

For Forks Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121837277#Comment_121837277

Worked then, and would suffice for Trumpy as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmys4LH9jTE

dontmindme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836071#Comment_121836071

Ranting??...jeez...you're getting as bad as them.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121839112#Comment_121839112

Yes ranting

“The radical left Democrats are at it again. They're constantly making up stories about me because their candidate is a mental and physical basket case. There's never been anything like it. He's also the worst president in the history of our country. He went on a very poorly rated show last night, and he talked about Donald Trump and his wife, I don't know the name of my wife.

He was referring to the fact that at CPAC (Conservative Political Action Conference), where I had a sold out speech, the biggest audience they've had in years, I think maybe ever. I made the statement that Melania was very popular because when I mentioned her name, the audience went wild. I then looked at the two people, man and wife, Matt and Mercedes Schlapp, and I said, ‘Wow, they really like the first lady.’ So this got taken as the fact that I thought Mercedes was the first lady, has nothing to do with that.

These people are really dishonest. They are absolutely something. They have a horrible candidate who's a horrible president. They make up things constantly. You take a look at when I use Barack Hussein Obama and I interject him into where it's supposed to be Biden, and I do it purposely for comedic reasons and for sarcasm because a lot of people say that Obama's running the country, not Biden, because he's sleeping all the time. They say, ‘Oh, I don't know the name of the president.’ Or when I imitate this guy getting off a stage, what they do is they say, ‘Oh, he had trouble getting off a stage.’ I have no trouble getting off a stage. Anybody that watches what I do at rallies would say, ‘Wow, that's amazing. He can go two hours without a teleprompter, not making even a little mistake.’ Very few people, maybe almost nobody, can do what I do.

So here's the story. The disinformation of the Democrats is unbelievable. They do it because they have a horrible candidate.

“Don't associate me with the mental midget that you portray because I want to tell you, he should not be leading this country. And hopefully on November 5, he's not going to be. We're going to have a big election, we're going to have a big victory, and we're going to make America great again.”

dontmindme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121839121#Comment_121839121

That's just his normal delivery and you know it...you're trying to say now the content of what he said constitutes ranting? Gimme a break.

Leroy42

Yes, its a rant. What possible reason is there for him to record a video, and post it, about a TV show and POTUS making some jokes?

He wasn't laughing about it, he is clearly p1ssed. And went out of his way to go on about that, and other non-related things.

Not sure what you think a rant is but it pretty much the definition of it. The fact that it is his normal mode is true enough, and should be telling you something about the man that claims to be a stable genius and wants to be taken seriously for the position of POTUS

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121839162#Comment_121839162

So you can make sense of what he's saying and think he's using normal syntax??

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121839162#Comment_121839162

That's a rant. Just because it's his normal delivery, means nothing. It just means he normally rants.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121839162#Comment_121839162

I think you've become a little neutered to the style of Donald Trump. The man seems a singularly unhappy, bitter and angry individual and his default style of speaking is akin - or just actually - a rant.

briany

Trump's buttons are so easily pushed it's ridiculous. It's an absolutely glaring weakness. The Biden campaign needs a whole department that just thinks up ways to make Trump as angry as possible so as to maximise the possibility of independent voters voting against him.

Pherekydes

Yes, ranting.

And raving. He's a raving loon.

Many people say, probably all of them, that he's the looniest loon of all time. Bigly. Really really yooooge.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121839162#Comment_121839162

Calling it normal delivery does not make it normal. He rants all the time, this was another one of them, a normal human would not rant like he does, but that is mainly due to his very sensitive ego and thin skin.

combat14

Judge in Mar-a-Lago case likely to delay trial

Aileen Cannon appears inclined to reject prosecutors’ proposed timeline as Trump lawyers push for delay in classified papers case

The tension was underscored by a further fraught exchange between Cannon, who at one point cut off the assistant special counsel David Harbach mid-sentence to remark she knew they disagreed with her – to which Harbach responded with an equally curt “we do”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/01/trump-mar-a-lago-documents-case

Overheal

Fact check: no evidence that Trump "ACED" cognitive test

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/release-trumps-cognitive-test-trump-claims-he-aced-it-but-what-did-his-doctor-say/