What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

ronjo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121833312#Comment_121833312

Oh I am pretty sure she will too.

She is careful enough in saying that he cant beat Biden and not that he shouldnt be on the ticket as he is a rapist and has all these charges against him.

duploelabs

Trump tries to do what Zuckerberg did

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/29/truth-social-lawsuit-trump-media-founders/

briany

https://youtu.be/tNWNRNGsvR8?si=y5ysZ4lzmxrAfs9E

The presumptive Republican nominee absolutely RANTING about jokes make at his expense on a late night TV show.

Yes, yes. Quite stable.

salmocab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836071#Comment_121836071

He has that thin skin alpha male thing that conservatives love so much.

odyssey06

George Clooney tears into Trump after being accused of being a member of the Hollywood Elite...

Here’s the thing: I grew up in Kentucky. I sold insurance door-to-door. I sold ladies’ shoes. I worked at an all-night liquor store. I would buy suits that were too big and too long and cut the bottom of the pants off to make ties so I’d have a tie to go on job interviews. I grew up understanding what it was like to not have health insurance for eight years...

People in Hollywood, for the most part, are people from the Midwest who moved to Hollywood to have a career. So this idea of “coastal elites” living in a bubble is ridiculous. Who lives in a bigger bubble? He lives in a gold tower and has twelve people in his company. He doesn’t run a corporation of hundreds of thousands of people he employs and takes care of. He ran a company of twelve people!

When you direct a film you have seven different unions all wanting different things, you have to find consensus with all of them, and you have to get them moving in the same direction. He’s never had to do any of that kind of stuff. I just look at it and I laugh when I see him say “Hollywood elite.” Hollywood elite? I don’t have a star on Hollywood Boulevard, Donald Trump has a star on Hollywood Boulevard!

https://twitter.com/CalltoActivism/status/1763363024524493191

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836071#Comment_121836071

He just sounds drunk.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121835879#Comment_121835879

Paywall. What's the gist?

Raoul Duke III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121835559#Comment_121835559

And then those Haley voters will trickle back to Trump.

This works on the other side too. For example the protest vote against Biden in Michigan, I have no doubt those votes will come home (as it would be the ultimate self-inflicted wound to elect Trump).

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836071#Comment_121836071

Which is probably why you'll see a concerted effort to avoid the TV debates cos Trump has only gotten more unhinged since 2020; Biden's age hasn't stopped his ability to jab, and he'd have Trump losing the plot within about 30 seconds.

Raoul Duke III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836295#Comment_121836295

I guess in the Trump camp, they will think that worked fine for the primary debates so why change a winning strategy?

Might backfire in the general, who knows.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836151#Comment_121836151

Issuing a sh!tton of shares to dilute the founders share to less than 1%

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836330#Comment_121836330

They'll get much more pushback cos it's one thing to skip what amounted a fair accompli, quite another for the national election where the entire population will be judging and expecting the candidates to participate.

Certainly won't do anything for the charge that Trump wants to circumvent democratic norms if he refuses to even debate his opponent.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836330#Comment_121836330

Him having covid and being unable to debate last time definitely had a negative impact on perception. All Biden would have to do this time is point to the fact he won't debate... It sounds fundamentally weak cause he's not winning a country over.

Raoul Duke III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836426#Comment_121836426

Yes, agreed. But we are not in normal times, and Trump is most certainly not a normal politician, so I'd be wary of making the assumption that this will have a negative impact (logical though that sounds).

It should have had a negative impact in the primary too and he crushed them all without debating.

accensi0n

Trump is gonna lose bigly, he'll either be done in by the voters or a triple cheeseburger.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836491#Comment_121836491

The primaries are by design echo chambers: you can't compare them to the national election when the actual particulars and details start becoming relevant, the discussions becoming "real". If Trump tries to dodge the debates it'll hurt him, and will only feed into the narrative that he wants to be king.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836148#Comment_121836148

It once again proves that he is obsessive over what is said about him.

Penn Gillette told a story on Joe Rogan one time about his time on the Celebrity Apprentice. Trump would hold court with the contestants on set before shooting would start for the day. One day he was complaining about a blog written by some randomer online. Trump was angry that the writer had questioned his real estate expertise because he bought some property for one million but only sold it for two million.

"Isn't that a profit???" he would insist at the various people lined up in front of him. Of course it was, but the fact that he was so bothered by some random blog that criticised him shows how neurotic he is.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836560#Comment_121836560

Remember how bullish and crass Trump was the first time they had debates in 2020? It was fúcking bad .

Trump's going to try to hit Biden on the cognitive decline angle, forcing Biden to basically say, "no, u".

There would be little calm and reasonable discussion of policy. Just Trump trying to take big clubbing swings at Biden, and Biden trying to look presidential throughout it all. It'd be a car crash.

I don't think you can make Trump seem appealing to independent, moderate voters at this point, so is there any real point to him trying to debate Biden? He may decide to just use the blanket coverage his trials will be getting for campaign speeches and leave it at that. We may witness him holding an actual rally at a courthouse by the time this is over.

everlast75

The mental gymnastics his followers engage in always astounds me.

Trump is innocent - yet seeks to delay every.single.hearing.

Presidents are immune from prosecution! But Biden should be criminally charged!

Judges are biased! Being at trial in DC means he can't get a fair hearing, but happy to have his other case heard in Florida by a favourable judge.

Raoul Duke III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836560#Comment_121836560

I'm having flashbacks to him looming over Hilary Clinton's shoulder in their debate (remember that really weird moment? She looked totally spooked.). If that didn't sink him, I'm not sure skipping debates would this time.

Trump doesn't get judged by the normal rules of politics remember. Unfortunate fact but true.

All_in_Flynn

The way I look to reassure myself about November is to ask the question, is Trump stronger or weaker than he was 4 years ago?

The answer is that he is undoubtedly weaker. He is underperforming in polls in his own party race. He has lost the swing voters and there are republicans who just wont turn out as they cannot stomach him.

I suspect on the day, he will perform worse than the polls suggested. If I was Biden, I would invest heavily into ensuring turn out in swing states. Get people on the ground and make sure people are registered. If turn out is good, he wins comfortably.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121832316#Comment_121832316

If this thread has taught me anything it's that marriage is no impediment to other relationships.

HalloweenJack

If debates were to go ahead without Trump, I'd fear there may be a repeat of the reaction to that time Clint Eastwood interviewed an empty chair at some Republican love-in.

Akrasia

Trump will debate Biden on his terms, he'll ignore the questions that are asked and just hammer Biden on the couple of things he thinks Biden is weak on

If the debate was on tonight, Trump would howl about how Biden is allowing Israel to murder innocent people and allowing Hamas to keep the hostages and allowing the Ukraine war to continue while claiming that if he was president, he would already have resolved all of these issues by being 'tough' on whoever

No matter what the questions are, Trump will ignore them, and talk about what he wants to talk about.

Biden is looking extremely weak on Gaza right now, could be looking much worse by November depending on how he reacts to events like the disgusting massacre that happened yesterday morning. Trump can cost Biden votes by appealing to the people who are angry at the democrats for facilitating a genocide in the middle east while still not losing pro Israel voters by playing both sides

Raoul Duke III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121837131#Comment_121837131

That's the spirit!

CrazyEric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121837200#Comment_121837200

If he refuses to attend Biden should walk on stage and then have someone place a chicken or cabbage on the other chair

That would surely send him off the deep end

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836928#Comment_121836928

Both Trump and Biden are weaker than in 2020. The difference between now and 2020 is that Trump is leading in a lot of polls including in swing states.

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836237#Comment_121836237

I doubt that Trump - if elected- will behave any different to Biden re the war in Gaza . Why? Because the significant influence the jews have on the economy and any reduction in the production of arms and associated industries will be met with a lot of push back because of job losses, reduction in profits , etc.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121837353#Comment_121837353

You're right but not for the bigot reasons you give.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121836441#Comment_121836441

I completely forgot the fact he tried to get out of the debate with covid