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Guinness SIX Nations 2021

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Itoje’s game is almost entirely based on pushing the offside line. Today the ref didn’t allow him to get away with it and he didn’t have a plan b

    Ah he was a constant menace at the breakdown and put Scotland's halves under real pressure around the fringes. He works very hard and has a great reading of the game.

    Lot's of commentary that James Ryan has had a big dip in form, but much like Itoje today if the team isn't firing there isn't much he can do to take control of the game.

    We get our breakdown resourcing / timing right and start getting our lineout to stick and a lot of our pack will look more impressive.

    Championship wide open now - we really need to show up tomorrow and deal with Wales ruthlessly. Set up a huge clash for next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Brilliant performance by Scotland. Really put England under pressure all over the pitch. It's going to be a very interesting 6 Nations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭degsie


    Fair play to the Scots for taking Eng's scalp on their home territory


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Rugby4568 wrote: »
    Ben Healy must be very tempted to play for Scotland now. Would be a smart move for him he’d be playing international rugby straight away and getting more game time and money with Glasgow.

    Why? He’d be a blow in they’d discard him as soon as he has half a mediocre game that the likes of Hastings or Russell would do.
    The local Scottish lads get the benefit of the doubt far more than the others.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    Because they beat England in one game?
    I mean come one, there are bigger reasons to play international rugby.
    But Andy Farrell seems like he wants to stick with Sexton and there’s already loads of depth with outhalves In Ireland. He’d be playing international rugby for Scotland straight away with less competition for the 10 jersey.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭griffinlee


    The 4 saracens players looked way off the pace. It's prob been 4 months since a meaningful game for them.. only game was against Ealing trailfinders which they lost..


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Why? He’d be a blow in they’d discard him as soon as he has half a mediocre game that the likes of Hastings or Russell would do.
    The local Scottish lads get the benefit of the doubt far more than the others.

    I think Ben Healy is a very good player and is a better kicker than Russell. Healy would start for Scotland in my opinion and would of got those kicks that Hogg and Russell missed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    Rugby4568 wrote: »
    Ben Healy must be very tempted to play for Scotland now. Would be a smart move for him he’d be playing international rugby straight away and getting more game time and money with Glasgow.

    What? He’d be behind Russell and Hastings for sure and maybe JVDW.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,275 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Ah he was a constant menace at the breakdown and put Scotland's halves under real pressure around the fringes. He works very hard and has a great reading of the game.

    Lot's of commentary that James Ryan has had a big dip in form, but much like Itoje today if the team isn't firing there isn't much he can do to take control of the game.

    We get our breakdown resourcing / timing right and start getting our lineout to stick and a lot of our pack will look more impressive.

    Championship wide open now - we really need to show up tomorrow and deal with Wales ruthlessly. Set up a huge clash for next week.
    Oh he absolutely does work extremely hard and makes a real nuisance of himself, but it’s always on the very edge of legal which means when your team get on the wrong side of the referee, or they’re forcing it a bit, he gets pinged a lot


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭TomsOnTheRoof


    Gwynplaine wrote: »
    Who is the fella with the glasses on the panel?

    Ian McKinley. Former Leinster fly half and Italian international.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    What? He’d be behind Russell and Hastings for sure and maybe JVDW.
    Well he certainly would of got those kicks that Russell and Hogg missed. Healy makes less mistakes than Russell. Russell makes too many mistakes


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Rugby4568 wrote: »
    I think Ben Healy is a very good player and is a better kicker than Russell. Healy would start for Scotland in my opinion and would of got those kicks that Hogg and Russell missed.

    As flawed as Russell is, he is miles better than Ben f*cking Healy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    Faugheen wrote: »
    As flawed as Russell is, he is miles better than Ben f*cking Healy.
    Don’t you think Ben Healy would be a more reliable kicker?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Rugby4568 wrote: »
    I think Ben Healy is a very good player and is a better kicker than Russell. Healy would start for Scotland in my opinion and would of got those kicks that Hogg and Russell missed.

    Hastings has been in better form than Russell before and they still played Russell ahead of him.
    They’d cap him, lock him in and let that be that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭TomsOnTheRoof


    Lack of generosity there from McKinley with regard to Burns. He has shown a hell of a lot more than Ross Byrne.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Rugby4568 wrote: »
    Well he certainly would of got those kicks that Russell and Hogg missed. Healy makes less mistakes than Russell. Russell makes too many mistakes

    I've seen absolutely nothing from Healy to suggest to me that he would be brought in as a starter for a top 14 club.

    Russell is safe as houses in Racing. You're entitled to your opinion but it's bordering on fantasy to be honest.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Oh he absolutely does work extremely hard and makes a real nuisance of himself, but it’s always on the very edge of legal which means when your team get on the wrong side of the referee, or they’re forcing it a bit, he gets pinged a lot

    He is just one of those players that if he is playing for your team, you love him, if he isn’t, then you don’t.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Hastings has been in better form than Russell before and they still played Russell ahead of him.
    They’d cap him, lock him in and let that be that.

    Fair point


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,393 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Aegir wrote: »
    He is just one of those players that if he is playing for your team, you love him, if he isn’t, then you don’t.

    He didn't look very fit today. And yeah, he does brilliant things and then gives away braindead penalties.

    Johnny Gray was fantastic. Recapturing his mojo, maybe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭ScissorPaperRock


    Rugby4568 wrote: »
    He has one eye

    What's your point?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    What's your point?

    Nothing it’s just an interesting fact


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Kicking isn't an issue for Ben Healy but the rest of his game certainly is. He is way off being a starter at international level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    Kicking isn't an issue for Ben Healy but the rest of his game certainly is. He is way off being a starter at international level.

    Yeah true actually he’s only recognised because of his kicking he needs to improve other aspects of his game


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,660 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Ben Healy is currently second fiddle to JJ and people think he'd be getting capped for Scotland??


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Rugby4568 wrote: »
    Yeah true actually he’s only recognised because of his kicking he needs to improve other aspects of his game

    and you're saying he would start for Scotland.

    I see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    and you're saying he would start for Scotland.

    I see.

    Am I allowed to change my opinion when you state a fact? Or do I have to be narrowed minded and not change my opinion no matter what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Scratchly


    Russell was the BBC man of the match for being the orchestrator of the win.

    Did I watch a different match? Everything Russell contributed he counteracted. Yellow card for tripping giving England the chance to bring it back to a 2 point gap after dominating the first half, multiple missed kicks at goal, butchered the man advantage with a terrible cross field, multiple poor kicks for territory and then almost sabotages the team by going for a drop at the end for his own ego.

    There was actually no difference to Scotland when Russell was in the bin. They worked their way into the English half, got a penalty and kicked to touch for a 5m scrum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    Scratchly wrote: »
    Russell was the BBC man of the match for being the orchestrator of the win.

    Did I watch a different match? Everything Russell contributed he counteracted. Yellow card for tripping giving England the chance to bring it back to a 2 point gap after dominating the first half, multiple missed kicks at goal, butchered the man advantage with a terrible cross field, multiple poor kicks for territory and then almost sabotages the team by going for a drop at the end for his own ego.

    There was actually no difference to Scotland when Russell was in the bin. They worked their way into the English half, got a penalty and kicked to touch for a 5m scrum.

    I agree with you I didn’t think he played well, he made too many mistakes


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,216 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Rugby4568 wrote: »
    Ben Healy must be very tempted to play for Scotland now. Would be a smart move for him he’d be playing international rugby straight away and getting more game time and money with Glasgow.

    Stupid comment

    Why would he be better tempted to play for Scotland behind a lions finn Russell, a 24 to Adam hastings and a 27 yo recently qualified jaco Vdw....

    Ireland has an aging Sexton in his twilight and a rat race for his successor.

    Healy is so much obviously better off in Ireland, before you start considering the basic day to day


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  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Rugby4568


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Stupid comment

    Why would he be better tempted to play for Scotland behind a lions finn Russell, a 24 to Adam hastings and a 27 yo recently qualified jaco Vdw....

    Ireland has an aging Sexton in his twilight and a rat race for his successor.

    Healy is so much obviously better off in Ireland, before you start considering the basic day to day
    He was third choice out half for Ireland u20s he couldn’t even make the match day squad when everyone was fit so I don’t think he’s the one to replace Sexton. Harry Byrne is a better player than Ben Healy imo


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