Is Sinn Fein selling “Tiocfaidh Ár Lá” T-shirt’s a good or bad thing?

theballz

https://www.sinnfeinbookshop.com/tiocfaidh-ar-la-t-shirt/

How do you feel about this?

Fann Linn

theballz wrote: »

https://www.sinnfeinbookshop.com/tiocfaidh-ar-la-t-shirt/

How do you feel about this?

It's a t shirt.

Bullocks

Hopefully lose them votes with that type of crap

mynamejeff

bright shiny things to attract the young and the dumb

always been the way with groups like this and uniforms

same with funerals , fat lads in black hats and white shirts,

blanch152

theballz wrote: »

https://www.sinnfeinbookshop.com/tiocfaidh-ar-la-t-shirt/

How do you feel about this?

It's tasteless and designed to be provocative, but not surprised.

suicide_circus

When did they remove the sniper tshirts?

Feisar

Did the bould Gerry not say their day had come?

Normal One

Does it come in blue?

biko

This is better

piplip87

Sinn Fein glorifying terrorism well I never........

whisky_galore

Useful to pick out a knobend to avoid at all costs.

Same with those Easter Lily badge wearers.

weldoninhio

piplip87 wrote: »

Sinn Fein glorifying terrorism well I never........

Whats terrifying about "Our day will come" in the Irish language?

SEPT 23 1989

I would consider it false advertising

NIMAN

Bullocks wrote: »

Hopefully lose them votes with that type of crap

They've been selling them for many years, and their vote has increased substantially.

I just think they are a bit cringe tbh. Who is the target market for such an item of clothing? I have never seen anyone wearing one or anything similar, like the sniper one. So are people buying them and throwing them in the back of the cupboard? Or maybe they don't sell many?

You'd be a sad adult to wear one in public.

But you'd think if SF wanted to be seen as a standard political party, they'd drop this stuff.

James Brown

The SF shop have been selling that stuff for over 40 years. It's dishonest for people to be suddenly outraged like the SF/IRA connection is news to anyone.
Why would/should people who admire the IRA or were in the IRA pretend they disapprove of the IRA?
It goes back to the old bollo; your heroes are murderers, whereas my murderers are heroes.
You can buy a poster of Michael Collins in many places.

blanch152

NIMAN wrote: »

They've been selling them for many years, and their vote has increased substantially.

I just think they are a bit cringe tbh. Who is the target market for such an item of clothing? I have never seen anyone wearing one or anything similar, like the sniper one. So are people buying them and throwing them in the back of the cupboard? Or maybe they don't sell many?

You'd be a sad adult to wear one in public.

But you'd think if SF wanted to be seen as a standard political party, they'd drop this stuff.

I am sure that there are people in their bedrooms posting on social media while wearing one.

piplip87

Bowie wrote: »

The SF shop have been selling that stuff for over 40 years. It's dishonest for people to be suddenly outraged like the SF/IRA connection is news to anyone.
Why would/should people who admire the IRA or were in the IRA pretend they disapprove of the IRA?
It goes back to the old bollo; your heroes are murders, whereas my murders are heroes.
You can buy a poster of Michael Collins in many places.

We should stop celebrating the whole ****ing lot at this stage. The brave heros of 16 and the War of Independence handed the country over to the church, this organisation with support of many of these so called heros supported a regime where pregnant women where taken into custody, their babies sold and those they couldn't sell ended up in septic tanks........

SF on the other hand celebrate a murderous campaign thay deliberately targeted innocent civilians, while using the murders of innocent people at the hands of the British to justify them doing the same.

The pictures doing the rounds of SF leaders taking the knee for BLM while they still celebrate those who murdered because of the victims religion.

Then they go on to try and say it was about civil rights for Catholics but yet they murdered more Catholics than the British Army and Loyalists.

They also voted to privatise social housing in the north, voted to raise rents during the pandemic in the north while voting against homes been built down here.

Absolute hypocrisy at the highest level. These young lefties that flocked to SF during the last election will soon wake up.

hatrickpatrick

I have no idea if these were official SF merch, but during the first quarantine lockdown back in April 2020, a friend of mine got a t shirt with "Tiofaidh Ár Sesh" written on it alongside a disco ball, whoever came up with this is an absolute genius

mynamejeff

Bowie wrote: »

The SF shop have been selling that stuff for over 40 years. It's dishonest for people to be suddenly outraged like the SF/IRA connection is news to anyone.
Why would/should people who admire the IRA or were in the IRA pretend they disapprove of the IRA?
It goes back to the old bollo; your heroes are murderers, whereas my murderers are heroes.
You can buy a poster of Michael Collins in many places.

again sf/ira stealing a heritage they have no connection to?

the sf that get money from that shop was formed in 1970 ,

and they claim a connection with the war of independence ? the pike men 1798 ?

why don't they use slogans like Guilford or Birmingham ?

how about proxy bombers safe provo lives ?

why hide the truth like ?

like I said its simply exploiting those stupid enough to fall for the propaganda

James Brown

mynamejeff wrote: »

again sf/ira stealing a heritage they have no connection to?

the sf that get money from that shop was formed in 1970 ,

and they claim a connection with the war of independence ? the pike men 1798 ?

why don't they use slogans like Guilford or Birmingham ?

how about proxy bombers safe provo lives ?

why hide the truth like ?

like I said its simply exploiting those stupid enough to fall for the propaganda

It's our heritage. Yours and mine. Collins and other terrorists, the catholic church and their monkey shines, all part of our heritage, good and bad. This FF/FG idea that they need trace their republicanism like a royal line is bollocks. A lad whose grandfather came from Nigeria has as much right to it as any lad or lady. It's your history and heritage. You need own it and celebrate or speak out against it as is your right.

mynamejeff

Bowie wrote: »

It's our heritage. Yours and mine. Collins and other terrorists, the catholic church and their monkey shines, all part of our heritage, good and bad. This FF/FG idea that they need trace their republicanism like a royal line is bollocks. A lad whose grandfather came from Nigeria has as much right to it as any lad or lady. It's your history and heritage. You need own it and celebrate or speak out against it as is your right.

its very clearly and very demonstrably not sf history though regardless how it is manipulated and presented to idiots.

sf still claim to be the oldest political party in Ireland , again a lie ,

why don't sf boast about their own history rather than stealing others ?

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

It's our heritage. Yours and mine. Collins and other terrorists, the catholic church and their monkey shines, all part of our heritage, good and bad. This FF/FG idea that they need trace their republicanism like a royal line is bollocks. A lad whose grandfather came from Nigeria has as much right to it as any lad or lady. It's your history and heritage. You need own it and celebrate or speak out against it as is your right.

The PIRA are not our heritage, they are our shame.

The slogan was a PIRA creation, nauseating that you invent fake news to draw the men of 1916 into a PIRA slogan.

IAMAMORON

I don't see any issue with it to be honest. The phrase is a confounding symbol of their movement and they are entitled to it.

I like the black one, but you would have to put a gun to my head to catch me wearing it:P



is fearr bás roimh easonóir

It is just a T-shirt and people are entitled to their beliefs and wishes. But as a fashion statement it is a big no no. Don't go there.

James Brown

mynamejeff wrote: »

its very clearly and very demonstrably not sf history though regardless how it is manipulated and presented to idiots.

sf still claim to be the oldest political party in Ireland , again a lie ,

why don't sf boast about their own history rather than stealing others ?

What part did Fine Gael play in the 1916 rising? Yet they oversaw the attempted whitewash with Redmond and Collins and both Varadkar and Flanagan tried to commemorate the Black and Tan/RIC, would you give over.
It's our shared history and heritage. People have a right to align themselves to what suits their ideology.
FF have done so much over the decades do they resemble the 1916 rising participants? Does Labour who vilified protestors mirror Larkin or Connolly? Do they ****.

They are selling the t-shirts anyway.

Kraftwerk

They should have Allahu akbar on the back so it will appeal to a broader group of terrorist sympathisers. Diversity and all that.

James Brown

Kraftwerk wrote: »

They should have Allahu akbar on the back so it will appeal to a broader group of terrorist sympathisers. Diversity and all that.

Be like FG commemorating the Black and Tans, oh wait..

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

What part did Fine Gael play in the 1916 rising? Yet they oversaw the attempted whitewash with Redmond and Collins and both Varadkar and Flanagan tried to commemorate the Black and Tan/RIC, would you give over.
It's our shared history and heritage. People have a right to align themselves to what suits their ideology.
FF have done so much over the decades do they resemble the 1916 rising participants? Does Labour who vilified protestors mirror Larkin or Connolly? Do they ****.

They are selling the t-shirts anyway.

"Tiocfaidh Ar La" is not part of our heritage. Full stop.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

"Tiocfaidh Ar La" is not part of our heritage. Full stop.

As much as the hunger strikes and Michael Collins.
Like the Irish language and leaving the empire, you don't have to like it, but it is.

IAMAMORON

I think the colour range is also slightly disappointing?

Is there a pink one like the girls get to wear in the GAA?

Tíocfaidh Bándearg, is fearr liom.

To be sure to be sure.

Fann Linn

Same as those Dublin GAA t shirts- The City that broke an Empire.

They'll appeal to some and for others it's just an excuse for them to get their knickers in a knot.

gourcuff

Fann Linn wrote: »

Same as those Dublin GAA t shirts- The City that broke an Empire.

They'll appeal to some and for others it's just an excuse for them to get their knickers in a knot.

but they didn't, the rising was a complete failure on every level, no mandate, citizens killed, women and children injured.


at least the war of independence (won in munster) led to the treaty...

but recent revisionism also says we shouldn't commemorate any of those events either, the recent furore about kilmichael proves that...

Kraftwerk

Bowie wrote: »

Be like FG commemorating the Black and Tans, oh wait..

Anyone: Grand day out
Shinners: But what bout FG!!!!!

James Brown

Kraftwerk wrote: »

Anyone: Grand day out
Shinners: But what bout FG!!!!!

I think you have that completely reversed

Necro

Mod:

I think we have enough SF threads in the forum. This isn't a CA anyways, so thread is now closed