When will it all end?

Scotty #

Deleted User wrote: »

Exactly! Why should we be in a stricter lockdown for a much longer time than Belgium if our numbers in hospital and ICU are far lower??

Priceless!!

Again...

"You use Head & Shoulders!, ....but you don't have dandruff!"
(only people over a certain age will get that one)

hynesie08

Scotty # wrote: »

Karate why do you keep telling this lie? You've been corrected on it several times so you do know it's a lie. And in the very same post as you're telling lies, you're calling RTE fake news. The irony!

Miami, Orlando, Tampa, Tallahasse, all still require masks. The only one of the top 5 metropolitan areas in Florida that does not require a mask is Jacksonville and that's only since Monday. Many businesses in Jacksonville and the schools system there still requiring marks.

Also, while venues have permission to open at full capacity, only the superbowl had more than 10% capacity, at 22000. Wrestlemania is aiming for 25-30k.

But yeah, no restrictions.

Seweryn

I know this is in the UK, but looks like they are planning for these lockdowns to be around for a very long time. There is no real plan to end these things.

https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/details/5585948

Deeper Blue

Seweryn wrote: »

I know this is in the UK, but looks like they are planning for these lockdowns to be around for a very long time. There is no real plan to end these things.

https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/details/5585948

How have you deduced that from the link you posted? Seems a bit of a stretch to say the least

TonyMaloney

Seweryn wrote: »

I know this is in the UK, but looks like they are planning for these lockdowns to be around for a very long time. There is no real plan to end these things.

https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/details/5585948

That's testing.

It's so they can avoid further lockdowns

Seweryn

Deeper Blue wrote: »

How have you deduced that from the link you posted? Seems a bit of a stretch to say the least

Well, it is a full time position starting in about two months with no end date.

GooglePlus

Seweryn wrote: »

I know this is in the UK, but looks like they are planning for these lockdowns to be around for a very long time. There is no real plan to end these things.

https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/details/5585948

Where are you getting lockdowns from this, this is the opposite really. They're looking to increase asymptomatic testing capacity which is only a good thing. This is how you avoid lockdowns altogether and with the vaccine rolling out, we'll be seeing mainly asymptomatic so this is probably for monitoring purposes more than anything?

If anything this speaks to their confidence in the vaccine.

TonyMaloney

GooglePlus wrote: »

Where are you getting lockdowns from this, this is the opposite really. They're looking to increase asymptomatic testing capacity which is only a good thing. This is how you avoid lockdowns altogether and with the vaccine rolling out, we'll be seeing mainly asymptomatic so this is probably for monitoring purposes more than anything?

If anything this speaks to their confidence in the vaccine.

And catching variants. Again, so they can avoid restrictions and lockdown

Deeper Blue

Seweryn wrote: »

Well, it is a full time position starting in about two months with no end date.

"Job type: Temporary"

MadYaker

GooglePlus wrote: »

Where are you getting lockdowns from this, this is the opposite really. They're looking to increase asymptomatic testing capacity which is only a good thing. This is how you avoid lockdowns altogether and with the vaccine rolling out, we'll be seeing mainly asymptomatic so this is probably for monitoring purposes more than anything?

If anything this speaks to their confidence in the vaccine.

This forum is full of loopers who think governments and scientists want the lockdowns to last forever for some unknown reason. It’s completely ridiculous but I read it here a lot. I suspect the person you’re responding to probably holds similar opinions but I could be wrong.

Mr. Karate

titan18 wrote: »

When they're planning on rapid testing on schools for September, you'd wonder if this is ever ending.

https://www.thejournal.ie/rapid-testing-antigen-ireland-5398593-Apr2021/

The Govt gave the judges a pay rise [ https://www.thejournal.ie/cabinet-increase-pay-judges-whips-allowances-5292378-Dec2020/] so essentially they bribed the courts.Plus having no opposition in the Dail. And a media that's nothing more than propagandists.

This definitely looks like this can go on forever. No opposition, the Courts and Media in their back pockets. Definitely not looking good for the people of this Country.

Seweryn

Seweryn wrote: »

I know this is in the UK, but looks like they are planning for these lockdowns to be around for a very long time. There is no real plan to end these things.

https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/details/5585948

It's very concerning.

This is also concerning: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/notice/005534-2021?fbclid=IwAR1Yt_GOxNEPcOj16kn7o3W0nn6q7apthZcbZW_9oNbPIT3mhGQKihMI340

"The Executive Office requires the immediate appointment of an advertising contractor to build on and continue to deliver a multimedia advertising campaign on COVID-19. The contract duration is for two years commencing on 1 April 2021. The maximum budget is £2 million exclusive of VAT."

And then we have Mike Ryan of WHO talking about 2nd and 3rd generation vaccines: https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1372892526957326341

MadYaker

MadYaker wrote: »

This forum is full of loopers who think governments and scientists want the lockdowns to last forever for some unknown reason. It’s completely ridiculous but I read it here a lot. I suspect the person you’re responding to probably holds similar opinions but I could be wrong.

It's not really surprising a lot of people think that:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56475807

"Dr Ramsay said restrictions such as face coverings in crowded places and social distancing had become accepted by many and still allowed the economy to function.

She said "people have got used to those lower-level restrictions now, and people can live with them, and the economy can still go on with those less severe restrictions in place".

"So I think certainly for a few years, at least until other parts of the world are as well vaccinated as we are, and the numbers have come down everywhere, that is when we may be able to go very gradually back to a more normal situation," she added."

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/21/politics/anthony-fauci-mask-wearing-2022-cnntv/index.html

"Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday that it's "possible" Americans will still need to wear masks in 2022 to protect against the coronavirus, even as the US may reach "a significant degree of normality" by the end of this year."

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/uk-news/massive-events-large-weddings-wont-19788856

"Massive events like Cheltenham Festival could not happen for "years", according to a COVID-19 expert.

Tim Spector, professor of genetic epidemiology at King's College London, has warned that massive events won't come back anytime soon despite coronavirus vaccinations."

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/covid-restrictions-will-return-in-autumn-and-last-into-2022-after-respite-in-summer-warns-chief-medical-officer-mcbride-40070956.html

"Covid-19 restrictions are likely to remain in place this time next year, Northern Ireland’s top doctor has warned.

Dr Michael McBride, the chief medical officer, has said while restrictions will not be fully lifted until 2022, he hopes this summer will bring some respite from the current lockdown.

However, he said it is likely that a range of restrictions will return in the autumn and remain in place into 2022."

GooglePlus

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And then we have Mike Ryan of WHO talking about 2nd and 3rd generation vaccines: https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1372892526957326341

Do you not think Mike Ryan is basing this off understanding and education as an epidemiologist, along with access to thousands of other experts across the globe. What's your point bringing this up, do you think he has another motive?

GooglePlus

GooglePlus wrote: »

Do you not think Mike Ryan is basing this off understanding and education as an epidemiologist, along with access to thousands of other experts across the globe. What's your point bringing this up, do you think he has another motive?

The point is that if it's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th generation vaccines then the other poster is right to be concerned that there's no end in sight.

And then we have the Prime Minister of Israel talking about vaccination every 6 months: https://twitter.com/factrealist2/status/1377204298740813826

titan18

Fact that they added quarantining needed for Israel makes me think this might nevwr end in 2021.

titan18

titan18 wrote: »

Fact that they added quarantining needed for Israel makes me think this might nevwr end in 2021.

And they haven't scrapped masks.

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PTH2009

Looking at Israel and how successful there reopenings have been it is encouraging. We will be watching our neighbours over in the UK and seeing how they do with the reopenings region by region

Regarding here there might come a time when we will be forced to reopen and live alongside this virus like we do with many others, successful UK reopenings could put massive pressure on our Government. A nervy thing is the problems in the HSE and that could be a factor.

I don't think covid will end but think it will join the flu and other illnesses that cant be eliminated

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

Looking at Israel and how successful there reopenings have been it is encouraging. We will be watching our neighbours over in the UK and seeing how they do with the reopenings region by region

Regarding here there might come a time when we will be forced to reopen and live alongside this virus like we do with many others, successful UK reopenings could put massive pressure on our Government. A nervy thing is the problems in the HSE and that could be a factor.

I don't think covid will end but think it will join the flu and other illnesses that cant be eliminated

I think what's happening in Israel is terrible. They have a two-tiered society there in that unless a person takes the vaccine they can't take part in normal life. I hope there are countries that don't go down the vaccine passport road. It'll be interesting to see how the UK's reopening goes.

GooglePlus

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The point is that if it's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th generation vaccines then the other poster is right to be concerned that there's no end in sight.

And then we have the Prime Minister of Israel talking about vaccination every 6 months: https://twitter.com/factrealist2/status/1377204298740813826

They were referring to continuous lockdowns but this sounds like we might have a regular vaccine like a flu jab, which will keep us out of lockdown. There might not be any other alternative or do you think there is?

GooglePlus

GooglePlus wrote: »

They were referring to continuous lockdowns but this sounds like we might have a regular vaccine like a flu jab, which will keep us out of lockdown. There might not be any other alternative or do you think there is?

The idea of being vaccinated every 6 months is a bit scary. A yearly voluntary vaccine for the elderly and the vulnerable would be okay.

We were told that vaccine meant normal life resuming. Now they're talking about 2nd and 3rd generation vaccines. The goalposts keep moving.

TonyMaloney

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The idea of being vaccinated every 6 months is a bit scary. A yearly voluntary vaccine for the elderly and the vulnerable would be okay.

We were told that vaccine meant normal life resuming. Now they're talking about 2nd and 3rd generation vaccines. The goalposts keep moving.

Getting vaccinated is normal

GooglePlus

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The idea of being vaccinated every 6 months is a bit scary. A yearly voluntary vaccine for the elderly and the vulnerable would be okay.

We were told that vaccine meant normal life resuming. Now they're talking about 2nd and 3rd generation vaccines. The goalposts keep moving.

The goalposts are always going to move in an unfolding situation and what we know now could change in a few months time, that's just the nature of things. We're doing first round vaccinations now and if we find that new variants keep arising, with some resistant to the vaccine, we'll have no other choice but to vaccinate against that, if it takes hold again. 6 months is a bit much, I've confidence that we'll develop a capture all for the virus as a whole eventually. You have to remember we've only had a year to develop this one and research is still ongoing. Continuous lockdowns will never become a thing though, whether this virus is here to stay or not.

Beasty

When will it all end?

...and so it does