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Help for Parents with remote teaching - secondary students

  • 07-01-2021 9:14pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 Smacruairi


    A place for students and parents to be pointed in the right direction for help with remote learning


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  • Registered Users Posts: 611 ✭✭✭ TTLF


    as a 6th year, this will be super helpful thank you :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭ History Queen


    English and History teacher here, happy to help anyone that needs it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭ Moody_mona


    Maths and Science (Chemistry) ask away! Also feel free to ask for study/organisation/planning tips, don't be feeling unnecessarily stressed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭ History Queen


    Can I suggest we get thread title changed to include students? Or maybe post a link in LC forum? If it is still active?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 Smacruairi


    Can I suggest we get thread title changed to include students? Or maybe post a link in LC forum? If it is still active?

    If I knew how to change a title I would!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭ khalessi


    Smacruairi wrote: »
    If I knew how to change a title I would!

    Contact mod maybe Necro or Beasty


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭ History Queen


    Smacruairi wrote: »
    If I knew how to change a title I would!

    I don't know either... so much for my helpful suggestion! : )


  • Registered Users Posts: 611 ✭✭✭ TTLF


    Moody_mona wrote: »
    Maths and Science (Chemistry) ask away! Also feel free to ask for study/organisation/planning tips, don't be feeling unnecessarily stressed.

    (Maths HL)
    My Girl Friend was wondering if you had any PDF's on Complex numbers or any notes/tips to learn/simplify them? Would be greatly appreciated (HL)

    She was also wondering if you had any of the same stuff for the chapter on Logs (Both HL) please and thankyou. :)

    Also for me, any study tips to help with being able to learn a little more smarter than longer? I work hard but I don't really work smart and I end up learning stuff in 2 hours when it should take really an hour or so. Thanks again :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 Smacruairi


    TTLF wrote: »
    (Maths HL)

    Also for me, any study tips to help with being able to learn a little more smarter than longer? I work hard but I don't really work smart and I end up learning stuff in 2 hours when it should take really an hour or so. Thanks again :D

    Regarding study, the brain works best in 40 min blocks, that's the whole reason classes were that length. So set yourself a task to complete in 40 mins,20mins break, and then something different.
    Always start with thr thing you hate to study, as if u start with your faves, you'll be too tired to do the thing you hate at the end.
    Always write out notes in your own handwriting, the muscle memory alone helps you learn, but you also learn your own writing better rather than seeing Arial size 12 for the 15th time.
    Orally record yourself, or get a mate to, when studying English or languages, you'll remember it like a song that way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭ Purple Mountain


    Hi all.
    My boy is 1st year and I'm just looking over his maths book here now to give myself a refresher to be able to help him next week.
    I did a few questions myself to get my mind thinking back to secondary maths.
    If someone could answer this for me next week, I'd appreciate it.

    I'm confused about brackets.
    I got the following answer
    3+2 (4) = 20 to a question while the book says 4 (3+2) = 20.
    Are both correct?

    Another one..
    I put (4×5) + 3 = 23 but the book's answer is 4×5+3=23
    So, are my my brackets necessary and if not, are they still correct?

    Thanks!

    To thine own self be true



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 Smacruairi


    Hi all.
    My boy is 1st year and I'm just looking over his maths book here now to give myself a refresher to be able to help him next week.
    I did a few questions myself to get my mind thinking back to secondary maths.
    If someone could answer this for me next week, I'd appreciate it.

    I'm confused about brackets.
    I got the following answer
    3+2 (4) = 20 to a question while the book says 4 (3+2) = 20.
    Are both correct?

    Another one..
    I put (4×5) + 3 = 23 but the book's answer is 4×5+3=23
    So, are my my brackets necessary and if not, are they still correct?

    Thanks!

    I'm not a maths teacher but...

    You do whatever is in the brackets first, then whatever impacts the brackets, then the rest. So for your first example
    "3+2 (4) = 20", that would mean 2x4 first, then plus 3,so 11,so it's written wrong.the book is saying 4 (3+2), ie 3+2=5, then x4 =20.


    Your second one is fine. But the book is saying you don't need brackets because of BOMDAS, you Di bracket stuff first, then multiplication, division, addition and subtraction in that order.
    Make sense?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭ Purple Mountain


    Smacruairi wrote: »
    I'm not a maths teacher but...

    You do whatever is in the brackets first, then whatever impacts the brackets, then the rest. So for your first example
    "3+2 (4) = 20", that would mean 2x4 first, then plus 3,so 11,so it's written wrong.the book is saying 4 (3+2), ie 3+2=5, then x4 =20.


    Your second one is fine. But the book is saying you don't need brackets because of BOMDAS, you Di bracket stuff first, then multiplication, division, addition and subtraction in that order.
    Make sense?

    Thank you so much.. I understand your correction of the first one. The 2 is attached to the (4).

    But in the second example the brackets are for separation purposes only. Ie there is no multiplication involved.

    So my question is, are brackets used for multiplication AND separation/segregation purposes also if that makes sense.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭ Purple Mountain


    Its question 22 I tried.

    For example again in iv. I put (12×2) ÷ 6 = 4 as answer. Book says 12x2÷6=4
    Part v I put (4×3) - 2=10. Book leaves out brackets again.

    To thine own self be true



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 Smacruairi


    Its question 22 I tried.

    For example again in iv. I put (12×2) ÷ 6 = 4 as answer. Book says 12x2÷6=4
    Part v I put (4×3) - 2=10. Book leaves out brackets again.

    Brackets are used to multiple whatever is outside the brackets by whatever is inside. So 2(4+3) is 14. You can't use brackets to "separate out".
    So where you have said (12x2)÷6 =4,yeah that's actually correct, but the brackets are redundant, if u leave them out, 12x2÷6, according to BOMDAS, you do the multiplication first (12x2) and then you divide that by 6.

    As I said your version is right and probably more visually logical, but by making you remove the brackets they're making sure you understand BOMDAS


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭ Purple Mountain


    Smacruairi wrote: »
    Brackets are used to multiple whatever is outside the brackets by whatever is inside. So 2(4+3) is 14. You can't use brackets to "separate out".
    So where you have said (12x2)÷6 =4,yeah that's actually correct, but the brackets are redundant, if u leave them out, 12x2÷6, according to BOMDAS, you do the multiplication first (12x2) and then you divide that by 6.

    As I said your version is right and probably more visually logical, but by making you remove the brackets they're making sure you understand BOMDAS

    I appreciate your help on a Saturday night :)

    To thine own self be true



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 Smacruairi


    Nothing else to do!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭ Purple Mountain


    Smacruairi wrote: »
    Nothing else to do!!

    Me neither, that's why I'm preemptive with what's coming on Monday!

    To thine own self be true



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭ mirrorwall14


    Its question 22 I tried.

    For example again in iv. I put (12×2) ÷ 6 = 4 as answer. Book says 12x2÷6=4
    Part v I put (4×3) - 2=10. Book leaves out brackets again.

    Going to pm you a quick BEMDAS recap. Quality is low as I just scrubbed here on the iPad and shrank the quality for boards . Might help


  • Registered Users Posts: 429 ✭✭ Afroshack


    This is a great idea! Happy for anyone to PM if needed (English and History)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭ mirrorwall14


    TTLF wrote: »
    (Maths HL)
    My Girl Friend was wondering if you had any PDF's on Complex numbers or any notes/tips to learn/simplify them? Would be greatly appreciated (HL)

    She was also wondering if you had any of the same stuff for the chapter on Logs (Both HL) please and thankyou. :)

    Also for me, any study tips to help with being able to learn a little more smarter than longer? I work hard but I don't really work smart and I end up learning stuff in 2 hours when it should take really an hour or so. Thanks again :D

    Hi,

    There are fully worked solutions available in PDF form for Text and Tests anyways. Does she have those? With maths it really is practise practise practise. For HL she needs to be doing all of the questions in each exercise in her book and practicing the exam questions thoroughly once finished the topic. It’s slow but necessary


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  • Registered Users Posts: 611 ✭✭✭ TTLF


    Hi,

    There are fully worked solutions available in PDF form for Text and Tests anyways. Does she have those? With maths it really is practise practise practise. For HL she needs to be doing all of the questions in each exercise in her book and practicing the exam questions thoroughly once finished the topic. It’s slow but necessary

    She has been practising and doing grinds but maths is hard for her (however she refuses to drop since she's competitive) so she was just wondering if there were any other notes available to explain it since Text and Tests can be god awful at explaining sometimes, however I will tell her about the fully worked solutions PDF! is it anywhere particular?

    Thankyou! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭ Ficheall


    Smacruairi wrote: »
    So where you have said (12x2)÷6 =4,yeah that's actually correct, but the brackets are redundant, if u leave them out, 12x2÷6, according to BOMDAS, you do the multiplication first (12x2) and then you divide that by 6.
    Just to add to this point slightly (no offense to Smacruairi, but in case it might be misinterpreted) - the multiplication comes before the division because you're reading it left to right - they're both equally "important" (both are done before addition and subtraction, but after brackets, for example). 12÷2x6 would be 36, whereas 12÷(2x6) would be 1. (That explains why you might see the rule called BODMAS instead, for example.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭ mirrorwall14


    TTLF wrote: »
    She has been practising and doing grinds but maths is hard for her (however she refuses to drop since she's competitive) so she was just wondering if there were any other notes available to explain it since Text and Tests can be god awful at explaining sometimes, however I will tell her about the fully worked solutions PDF! is it anywhere particular?

    Thankyou! :D

    Yeah the worked solutions are far more detailed than the answers at the back of the book. Get her to sign up here and post anything she can’t figure out from the solutions. I’ll keep an eye and lend a hand on anything she can’t spot.

    Really it is about figuring them out with support from the solutions if needed and then retrying it again to see can you recreate it without that support the next time

    https://studyclix.blob.core.windows.net/static/content/file/attachments/4/43f80840-573a-4ecc-9d78-2b12ca28ba65.pdf


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