This is not who we are?

Mulbert

Why is this scutter comment constantly peddled out by the press worldwide?

Normally what's happening in front of your face is exactly whom you are.

It's like the news reporter hearing " this is normally a quite place" after another murder.When everyone knows,the place the reporter is reporting from is exactly where murders happen.

biko

"This is not who we are" = "This is not who I would like us to be".

Mulbert

Yes, that sounds familiar alright.

CharlieHaghy

The mass social housing club.

Mulbert

CharlieHaghy wrote: »

The mass social housing club.

But in a different way, like, as if everyone was awesome!

begbysback

I’m awesome

Mulbert

The Yanks are belting this out on all the news channels, but to be fair the country is rife for a insurection from some side.

Unfortunately nobody in the US can outgun the federal authority, fortunately!

CharlieHaghy

Mulbert wrote: »

But in a different way, like, as if everyone was awesome!

Go to bed and get up for work tomorrow. Contribute to society.

Mulbert

CharlieHaghy wrote: »

Go to bed and get up for work tomorrow. Contribute to society.

If only, what will I contribute to, that would please you sir?

chrissb8

Was just thinking the exact same thing browsing through twitter and general responses to what's going on at Capitol Hill.

This is EXACTLY who you are. And if not it isn't the deluded fantasy that America is a bastion of greatness and good. Because it's not, at all.

For most, looking in from the outside, just more of the same.

CharlieHaghy

Mulbert wrote: »

If only.

Once your corona payment gets stopped you will work.

Mulbert

Mulbert wrote: »

Why is this scutter comment constantly peddled out by the press worldwide?

Normally what's happening in front of your face is exactly whom you are.

It's like the news reporter hearing " this is normally a quite place" after another murder.When everyone knows,the place the reporter is reporting from is exactly where murders happen.

Quite.

AllForIt

It's propaganda. We have never lived in a time in western society where you hear such platitudes as the OP describes shot at us on a daily basis multiple times per day.

Mulbert

CharlieHaghy wrote: »

Once your corona payment gets stopped you will work.

You are very presumptuous Charlie. I like that.

Mulbert

AllForIt wrote: »

It's propaganda. We have never lived in a time in western society where you hear such platitudes as the OP describes shot at us on a daily basis multiple times per day.

Is it the scuttery comment or multiplicity of its platitudes u have a distain for All?

CharlieHaghy

Mulbert wrote: »

You are very presumptuous Charlie. I like that.

And your first cousin

Leg End Reject

Welcome to the age of denial and political correctness.

Nothing to see here, please move along sir/madam. Thanking you kindly.

y0ssar1an22

its like in sport you often hear the phrase 'not that type of player', usually used to describe something illegal in that particular sport.

if you weren't that type of player, you would not have committed that action.

quokula

If it was who we are then it wouldn’t be on the news. For every murderer there are millions of non-murderers.

The news, by its nature, shows exceptional and unusual events, and it’s worth being reminded that most people are actually decent law abiding people, but news reporters don’t turn up outside their house to show them having breakfast.

AutoTuning

So America’s not a land of gun obsessed, bible bashing conspiracy theorists?!

topper75

If you ask anyone such as myself who has been there (doesn't include east coast J1 types, sorry) and travelled through the country NSE&W they will tell you it is full of all kinds.

Including your stereotype.

quokula

AutoTuning wrote: »

So America’s not a land of gun obsessed, bible bashing conspiracy theorists?!

I know a lot of Americans and I've been to the US many times and have come across very few people like that. Clearly there are significant numbers of them, but out of a population of 330 million people you will find all sorts.

Unfortunately an arcane electoral system, republican gerrymandering, and social media and "alternative media" have given these sort of people a disproportionately large say in recent times.

AutoTuning

But this *is* a large element of who they are.
They’re not this exclusively, but this is America and a very real part of it.

You might as well say that being obsessed with pubs and pints isn’t part of what Ireland is.

They’re far far too quick to blame someone else like Russian conspiracies or the Chinese meddling in their elections etc etc but in reality this is home grown. They have a huge problem and they dress it up in exceptionalism, avoiding use of language like “attempted coup” won’t talk about all sorts of issues and get buried in flag waving patriotism.

They won’t solve this problem until they accept they have this problem. They just basically had an attempted coup and they are wringing their hands and barely even tried to stop it!

Trump is *still* in office as a powerful executive president. They could remove him, but they won’t.

They’ll be drowning in emotional, teary eyed Hollywood garbage about the majesty of the peaceful transition of power in few weeks and talking as if the US is the world’s only or most perfect democracy.

There’s the usual stomach churning “the world looks at us as a beacon of hope” line trotted out by every American news anchor be they CNN, ABC or Fox News.

It’s a country that thinks its own farts smell like roses and is so lost In exceptionalism and inability to see itself in a mirror that it’s just walking into almost heading towards full authoritarianism.

It’s a country that can go into police state mode. It has incarceration rates that are absolutely off the scale by any standards of any of its peers. They refuse to recognise the international criminal court, so won’t be held accountable for anything they do in terms of war crimes, they have industrially tortured people in prison camps, see nothing wrong with executing their own citizens.

Beacon of hope?! A successful consumer economy with a flawed democracy and a somewhat Mad Max tendency.

pjdarcy

Ah yes, American citizens, holding an insurrection on American soil, at the American capitol building about an American election, held and validated by Americans but..."this is not America"

Black Swan

I am cliche.

pjdarcy

Black Swan wrote: »

I am cliche.

Meeow

begbysback

Black Swan wrote: »

I am cliche.

Doesn’t mean we all hate you, most of us dubs accept people from the country.

FGR

Black Swan wrote: »

I am cliche.

Oi. Who are you calling a culchie?! :pac:

But agreed. There are many decent, upstanding citizens in the US but, even with it's worldwide influence in entertainment and culture, why oh why do the strangest of things happen there?

I say this as someone who wouldn't mind a green card, either :pac:

Haraldkare

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Quite.

You're better than this.

Bobblehats

Haraldkare wrote: »

You're better than this.

Who are you?!

Mulbert

FGR wrote: »

Oi. Who are you calling a culchie?! :pac:

But agreed. There are many decent, upstanding citizens in the US but, even with it's worldwide influence in entertainment and culture, why oh why do the strangest of things happen there?

I say this as someone who wouldn't mind a green card, either :pac:

Because theyre told as children anything is possible and you can do anything if you work hard enough. But we in Boards.ie know that's a load of scutter and we should aim much much lower.

COVID

Bobblehats wrote: »

Who are you?!

Who, who, who, who?

Stovepipe

I stayed in a B n B on an infamous street in Norn Iron, in 1995. I asked the landlady if there'd been much trouble in the area, before the GFA. "On,no,not a thing.very quiet". The street was one of those that used to be featured on the nightly news on a very regular basis, as it was a rat run between hardcore areas on both sides of the divide. Early NIMBYism.

AllForIt

There is a certain arrogance in the statement. I.e. that who we are is who I am and we all should be who I am.

Mulbert

FGR wrote: »

Oi. Who are you calling a culchie?! :pac:

But agreed. There are many decent, upstanding citizens in the US but, even with it's worldwide influence in entertainment and culture, why oh why do the strangest of things happen there?

I say this as someone who wouldn't mind a green card, either :pac:

Because theyre told as children anything is possible and you can do anything if you work hard enough. But we in Boards.ie know that's a load of scutter and we should aim much much lower.