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January 2021 - Your Restrictions Q&A Megathread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭danielgalway


    Hi all,

    Wanted to get some thoughts here as I can't seem to find much online regarding my situation. We've just moved to level 5 restrictions with a 5km travel limit. Northern Ireland is also currently on quite strict restrictions.

    I'm due to be moving job in February, moving from Galway to Belfast. I'd be going to Belfast at the end of January to look for a place to live. I'll be working remotely from my house in belfast.

    My grandparents house is currently vacant, so I was going to go up, stay there for 2 weeks and look for a place to live while there, then move straight in whenever I secure a place.

    Is it a good idea to move in the current circumstances with Covid restrictions? If I was to receive a letter from my employer as proof of me moving and starting a new job, would this be sufficient proof and a valid reason if I was to be stopped by a garda/policeman?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    I imagine that you can move house as long as you stay there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 Qwerty77


    I understand no gatherings are allowed, even in gardens etc, but I’ve some stuff to deliver & pick up from family (within the designated distance) - is this now also off bounds? Do I need to wear a Hazmat suit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭yamaha4life


    Qwerty77 wrote: »
    I understand no gatherings are allowed, even in gardens etc, but I’ve some stuff to deliver & pick up from family (within the designated distance) - is this now also off bounds? Do I need to wear a Hazmat suit?

    I doubt the hazmat suit is required, during first lockdown i did shopping for a family quarantining droped it at door and left. Just didnt stay for a chat etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Psychedelic Hedgehog


    Yeah, that'd be fine I think, just don't stay for an overly extended chat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Qwerty77 wrote: »
    I understand no gatherings are allowed, even in gardens etc, but I’ve some stuff to deliver & pick up from family (within the designated distance) - is this now also off bounds? Do I need to wear a Hazmat suit?

    So long as you have document confirming delivery/pickup, siigned by your local priest, then Bob's your uncle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Fogmatic


    I've searched in vain for any mention of over-70s in todays new policy. Does that mean we can continue to 'exercise judgement' re essential shopping, going outside 5km if necessary?

    (Perhaps I should explain that I simply need to know one way or the other; further discussion is always interesting of course, but however good the advice out there is, not all of it's possible to follow in my case).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Anybody got an up to date list of what are essential workers?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭angela1711


    Well any idea as to when the government is going to update their list ?

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/3bd76-essential-workers-at-level-5/

    I am reading conflicting information what is says here https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/coronavirus/600140/an-updated-list-of-essential-workers-who-can-leave-home-on-during-the-january-level-5-lockdown.html for instance is completely different to what's written here https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c9158-essential-services/.

    I'd say the last link is the old list of essential workers even though it says last updated on 6th of January.
    When I originally looked at the first link yesterday it was pretty much as restrictive as we had back in the March lock down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I know that mechanics will be open as they say that "Outlets providing for the repair and maintenance of mechanically propelled vehicles" are essential. But they also say "You should only leave your home if you have a 'reasonable excuse' for doing so."

    I assume going to a mechanic is a reasonable excuse, even though it's not in their list, right?
    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/public_health_measures_for_covid19.html#l053b3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭angela1711


    Mechanics seem to be removed from the essential retail list according to this:

    Repair and installation of Machinery and Equipment
    - the supply, repair and installation of machinery and equipment and industrial machinery and equipment for essential services


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭angela1711


    angela1711 wrote: »
    Mechanics seem to be removed from the essential retail list according to this:

    Repair and installation of Machinery and Equipment
    - the supply, repair and installation of machinery and equipment and industrial machinery and equipment for essential services

    Gov.ie said the same thing yesterday before it was removed for updating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    angela1711 wrote: »
    Mechanics seem to be removed from the essential retail list according to this:

    Repair and installation of Machinery and Equipment
    - the supply, repair and installation of machinery and equipment and industrial machinery and equipment for essential services

    Where did you read that? The below explicitly says that mechanics can stay open. See point 12.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/60ecc-essential-retail-outlets-for-level-5/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭angela1711


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Where did you read that? The below explicitly says that mechanics can stay open. See point 12.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/60ecc-essential-retail-outlets-for-level-5/

    That's an old list you are looking at it was last updated on the 31/12.

    From Department of the Taoiseach
    Published on 14 October 2020
    Last updated on 31 December 2020


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭angela1711


    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/3bd76-essential-workers-at-level-5/

    New one is currently being updated. This is the most recent thing that I could find an-updated-list-of-essential-workers-who-can-leave-home-on-during-the-january-level-5-lockdown


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    angela1711 wrote: »
    That's an old list you are looking at it was last updated on the 31/12.

    From Department of the Taoiseach
    Published on 14 October 2020
    Last updated on 31 December 2020

    I assume it's still current. It explicitly says it's the "list of essential retail outlets at Level 5" so just because it hasn't been updated in a week doesn't necessarily mean it's outdated. It's all the public has to work with at the moment.

    How do you know there's a new one being updated?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Fogmatic


    Beasty wrote: »
    Thanks!
    Looks like I'd better keep checking the sites for updates though (with even such pivotal services as creches suffering confusion!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    angela1711 wrote: »
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/3bd76-essential-workers-at-level-5/

    New one is currently being updated. This is the most recent thing that I could find an-updated-list-of-essential-workers-who-can-leave-home-on-during-the-january-level-5-lockdown

    Hmm. That's essential workers which I guess should correlate with essential retail outlets.
    angela1711 wrote: »

    Interesting. NCT centres still seem to be operating so I imagine mechanics would also need to be open to? Will have to wait and see I guess.

    Are all these changes coming into effect from Friday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭angela1711


    How do you know there's a new one being updated?[/QUOTE]

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/3bd76-essential-workers-at-level-5/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭cython


    angela1711 wrote: »
    That's an old list you are looking at it was last updated on the 31/12.

    From Department of the Taoiseach
    Published on 14 October 2020
    Last updated on 31 December 2020

    That poster's link (https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/60ecc-essential-retail-outlets-for-level-5/) now bears the following:
    From Department of the Taoiseach

    Published on 14 October 2020

    Last updated on 7 January 2021
    And still includes reference to garages remaining in the list of essential businesses. At the same time, your link is still reported as being updated - confusion abounds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    So is this meant to be all teachers, or only those attending school physically?

    "Schools

    Certain education provision such as teaching, SNA support and other services required to support the delivery of the education related services being provided under Level 5. "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    cython wrote: »
    That poster's link (https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/60ecc-essential-retail-outlets-for-level-5/) now bears the following:

    And still includes reference to garages remaining in the list of essential businesses. At the same time, your link is still reported as being updated - confusion abounds?

    That list has also now been updated and confirms garages will remain open:

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c9158-essential-services/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/en/publication/3bd76-essential-workers-at-level-5/#supply-repair-and-installation-of-machinery-and-equipment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 poollad


    Can someone explain to me if creches are currently open or when do these restrictions kick in? We have received no communication from our creche and they appeared to be operating as normal this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭dubrov


    poollad wrote: »
    Can someone explain to me if creches are currently open or when do these restrictions kick in? We have received no communication from our creche and they appeared to be operating as normal this morning.

    Just ring them.
    The rules are fairly grey and each creche has a different take on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭foozzybear61


    I work on a community employment scheme for the last few years .
    its a front line job with an organization that provides supports to adults with intellectual disabilities . I have asked my supervisor if there were any plans to halt these hours I do as in the first wave in March and got a very curt reply basically saying I will tell you when you need to know. I know people on other schemes with far less personal contacts than us being told to stay at home
    Given the scheme is supported by social welfare and government is saying reduce your contacts and travel I find this counterproductive ,
    Anyone else know of similar


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Are kids still going to be allowed do GAA training?

    Another example of one rule for the GAA and another for everyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Responder XY


    The 5km rule only applies to exercise. you can travel as far as you need to once it's for an allowable purpose. Collecting a bike would be allowable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    The 5km rule only applies to exercise. you can travel as far as you need to once it's for an allowable purpose. Collecting a bike would be allowable

    Although I think click and collect is not allowed at the moment anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,963 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    The 5km rule only applies to exercise. you can travel as far as you need to once it's for an allowable purpose. Collecting a bike would be allowable

    Agreed - if the shop is deemed essential enough to be open, my logic is it’s reasonable to travel to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭markjbloggs


    No, it is clearly not allowable under the present restrictions. Why do you think these limits are placed on a population?

    The self-entitlement of cyclists......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    No, it is clearly not allowable under the present restrictions. Why do you think these limits are placed on a population?

    The self-entitlement of cyclists......

    Not sure if serious..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    No, it is clearly not allowable under the present restrictions. Why do you think these limits are placed on a population?

    The self-entitlement of cyclists......

    What about a car? Can someone travel to pickup their new car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    What about a car? Can someone travel to pickup their new car?




    Only if they go on their bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Responder XY


    No, it is clearly not allowable under the present restrictions. Why do you think these limits are placed on a population?

    The self-entitlement of cyclists......

    Either a troll or a very bad joke - poor effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭markjbloggs


    Either a troll or a very bad joke - poor effort.

    OK then, i'll bite - why is this a joke, bearing in mind your comment along the lines of "Collecting a bike would be allowable".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭Misguided1


    The 5km rule only applies to exercise. you can travel as far as you need to once it's for an allowable purpose. Collecting a bike would be allowable

    As long as you are travelling within your county


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Responder XY


    because bike shops have been deemed esential.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭cython


    Misguided1 wrote: »
    As long as you are travelling within your county

    Username is apt. In reality once travel can pass as being essential, there is no limit of 5km, county boundaries, or anything else in that vein. County travel limit essentially does not exist in Level 5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭Misguided1


    cython wrote: »
    Username is apt.

    Was that comment really necessary:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,159 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    The self-entitlement of cyclists......

    You're dead right! Only yesterday I seen one of them lycralouts, now I can't be sure but he had a look that said "I'm outside my 5k"....:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,062 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    What about a car? Can someone travel to pickup their new car?

    If it is a pre- order they can collect it, ie order forms before new regulations. If it is a new order, then the Dealership must deliver.

    Repairs of cars are essential and aftersales open as normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Someone asked can you pickup a new car, cars can be essential e.g. car is broken and need a new one.
    Similarly bikes could be essential, if you are an essential worker and commute by bike and your own bike is broken beyond repair then buying a new bike is essential.
    Because of this certain thing like bike shops which aren't essential for the vast majority are still open as they are potentially essential for some.
    Ideally people would use common sense, the guidance is only make essential journeys, if someone just fancies getting a new bike that is not really essential and they shouldn't go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Responder XY


    cruizer101 wrote: »
    Someone asked can you pickup a new car, cars can be essential e.g. car is broken and need a new one.
    Similarly bikes could be essential, if you are an essential worker and commute by bike and your own bike is broken beyond repair then buying a new bike is essential.
    Because of this certain thing like bike shops which aren't essential for the vast majority are still open as they are potentially essential for some.
    Ideally people would use common sense, the guidance is only make essential journeys, if someone just fancies getting a new bike that is not really essential and they shouldn't go.

    This is completely right. The OP did say the bike was essential to him, so taking them at their word they are well within their rights to collect it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,290 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    cruizer101 wrote: »
    Ideally people would use common sense, the guidance is only make essential journeys, if someone just fancies getting a new bike that is not really essential and they shouldn't go.

    Same for all shopping presumably, if someone just fancies a takeaway dinner from their local Indian or Chinese or just fancies a bottle of wine or slab of beer from their offey or fancies the nice bread from their M&S, none of these are essential so they shouldn't go?

    OP - the 5km limit is nothing to do with shopping. It only applies to exercise.


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