1997 Fiesta & trade-in?

Gavin "shels"

So the family heirloom (well my mothers now mine...) has had it's day, it's been essentially sitting ideal for a few years gathering rust, it failed it's NCT in the last couple of weeks and I'm upgrading anyway so it looks like scrap pile for the '97... Question is, would there be any hope of me getting any sort of trade-in on a 1997 Fiesta or best to send it to the scrap pile? :pac: Only thing of value is a two year old battery...

mickdw

Take battery out and get it scrapped.
A garage might agree to take it as a trade in but in reality t g ey would give you a better deal for straight sale.
Nobody wants a rusty fiesta around the place.
Sometimes there are scrappage deals on new stuff but often only sales bluff - i guess worth looking if you are thinking of something new.

bazz26

A dealer could tell you they will give you 500 for it but they will just be adding 500 onto the price of the car your buying from them to allow that. Reality it's only hassle for a dealer as they will have to dispose of it just like you would. Better off keeping the Fiesta out of any deal for a newer car, go in with no trade-in and you can negotiate a discount off the newer car. Contact a few scrap yards to see what they will give you for taking the Fiesta off your hands but don't expect much for it. Worst case you could donate it to your local Fire Service who might use it for training purposes.

kaizersoze

Stick up a photo or 2 of the fiesta.

Gavin "shels"

kaizersoze wrote: »

Stick up a photo or 2 of the fiesta.

Will do tomorrow

Gavin "shels"

Here she is... Pepper I believe my mam calls her

Gael23

A breaker might give you €100 but it’s worth nothing really if it has rusted

Toyotafanboi

I need that in my life, looks fab! You don't see may loke that anymore. Looks nice and honest, clean bodywork and original rear arches and sills!

What's the mileage? Please don't give out your localtion encase you are close to me :pac:

blackbox

What reason did it fail the NCT?

Gavin "shels"

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

What's the mileage?

Just under 58000 miles.

blackbox wrote: »

What reason did it fail the NCT?

Reg Plates/Chassis Number - VIN Number - Obstructed/No. Vis - Offside
Reap Suspension System - Axle & Wishbone Brushes Worn - Offside Rear
Reap Suspension System - Axle & Wishbone Brushes Worn - Nearside Rear
Re Test - Repeat Side Slip Test
Bodywork - Primary Sutrcuture corrosion - Door Sills

All 4 tyres are Advisory to be replaced - one has less than 3.00 mm tread depth.

Oops!

PM me your location please.

Toyotafanboi

Be a cheap one to fix up but probably not worth your while. Shame in a lot of ways.

Would agree, best to go for a straight deal on it's replacement and stick that on donedeal for €250.

cml387

58000 miles?

Barely run in.

Pity about the rust, the other items are fixable for a reasonable price.

Gavin "shels"

Oops! wrote: »

PM me your location please.

Will do.

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Be a cheap one to fix up but probably not worth your while. Shame in a lot of ways.

Would agree, best to go for a straight deal on it's replacement and stick that on donedeal for €250.

My mechanic said a couple of hundred and then 4 new tyres so it's not worth it long term, I'm flying the nest soon so won't have use of my mams new Fiesta for "longer" journeys.

cml387 wrote: »

58000 miles?

Barely run in.

Pity about the rust, the other items are fixable for a reasonable price.

My mam had it from new... the weekly mileage was basically 10 mins drive up and 10 mins drive back from the supermarket for 20 years before she handed it to me.

I've had some of the rust fixed last year for it's NCT, I haven't really looked under it to see the extent but for me personally it's not worth fixing.

Gael23

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I need that in my life, looks fab! You don't see may loke that anymore. Looks nice and honest, clean bodywork and original rear arches and sills!

What's the mileage? Please don't give out your localtion encase you are close to me :pac:

You might have it in your life as a Beer Can or razor blade before long.
There’s rust on it so not fixable

Oops!

Gael23 wrote: »

You might have it in your life as a Beer Can or razor blade before long.
There’s rust on it so not fixable

How do you know that? I've bought 2 Fiesta's in the last 2 years in similar condition, both 00's similar miles on the clock, and similar NCT fail sheets.

Both were repaired and sold on with fresh nct's, one even got a new clutch kit.... Still alive and will out live alot of more modern stuff on the roads.

Flyer1

Rust is very fixable !

Gavin "shels"

So is the general consensus to try shift this on instead of a scrap pile? Wouldn't mind €250 quid instead of a trip out to a scrappage yard

Oops!

250 is a bit ambitious but i'm sure somebody might offer 100 for it, better than 50 for scrap... could be used as a donor also.

Gavin "shels"

Oops! wrote: »

250 is a bit ambitious but i'm sure somebody might offer 100 for it, better than 50 for scrap... could be used as a donor also.

Is there much paperwork involved in selling it on? Is it worth the hassle for €100....

Oops!

Nope, get them to sign a name and address on the relevant section, tick the change of ownership box, they sign the section under that, you sign the section beside it.... YOU then free post the log book to Vehicle Services Division, Shannon Co. Clare. V14 P298....

Job done, send me a pm if you've anymore questions.... takes 5 mins, no hassle at all.

Gavin "shels"

Oops! wrote: »

Nope, get them to sign a name and address on the relevant section, tick the change of ownership box, they sign the section under that, you sign the section beside it.... YOU then free post the log book to Vehicle Services Division, Shannon Co. Clare. V14 P298....

Job done, send me a pm if you've anymore questions.... takes 5 mins, no hassle at all.

Thanks a mill!

Isambard

only the door sills rusty is an easy fix potentially. Probably not worth doing but there are many Fiesta heads out there who would do it anyway or keep it for the future. 24 years old, it deserves a chance. Don't scrap it.

Oops!

Well said.

mickdw

My original response was scrap it but after seeing the photos, it looks very tidy and with a genuine 58k if you know it since new.
What engine does it have?

Oops!

It's the endura pushrod OHV 1.1 engine.

Toyotafanboi

Oops! wrote: »

250 is a bit ambitious but i'm sure somebody might offer 100 for it, better than 50 for scrap... could be used as a donor also.

Agree totally. At that end of the market though i think you would need to ask 250 to get 100 for it.

If you put it up for 100 someone will want it for 20.

Go on OP, where are you? Surely someone here will give it a home.

AMKC

My that was a very basic 97 Fiesta. Not even from electric windows. Renault would never have been as mean as that. The cousin had a Fiesta like this too but it was the 1.25 zetec engine and the Ghia model. He easily done the tonne in it bloody crazy and scary at that. Never a car I liked. Maybe there is someone out there that would love it for its basic ness so maybe worth saving.

Gavin "shels"

mickdw wrote: »

My original response was scrap it but after seeing the photos, it looks very tidy and with a genuine 58k if you know it since new.
What engine does it have?

I could nearly tell you where the 58k miles have been over the past 24 years :pac: I'd say the car has seen a motorway under a couple of hundred times!!

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Go on OP, where are you? Surely someone here will give it a home.

Dublin 8.

AMKC wrote: »

Not even from electric windows.

It's a nightmare anytime I'm stopped at Garda checkpoints during Covid as they stand on a passengers side!! :pac:

BrianD3

A 24 year old, one family owned heirloom with 58k on the clock? If you scrap or sell that, there is a high chance that you'll regret it in a short number of years. The only thing that would stop me keeping it is a lack of off street parking which looks like it may be an issue in the photos.

And yeah, I know that this is the sort of thinking that often ends up with cars rotting into the ground in the back garden "not for sale" and that will be restored "one day" which never comes.

Even without the family heirloom stuff, it is a borderline classic car - similar age cars like Mondeos and Renault Meganes are now a regular feature in classic cars mags. And there is a good thread about a similar age Fiesta in the boards classic forum, if you must get rid of it at least offer it to that poster first?

Gavin "shels"

BrianD3 wrote: »

A 24 year old, one family owned heirloom with 58k on the clock? If you scrap or sell that, there is a high chance that you'll regret it in a short number of years. The only thing that would stop me keeping it is a lack of off street parking which looks like it may be an issue in the photos.

And yeah, I know that this is the sort of thinking that often ends up with cars rotting into the ground in the back garden "not for sale" and that will be restored "one day" which never comes.

Even without the family heirloom stuff, it is a borderline classic car - similar age cars like Mondeos and Renault Meganes are now a regular feature in classic cars mags. And there is a good thread about a similar age Fiesta in the boards classic forum, if you must get rid of it at least offer it to that poster first?

Tongue in cheek that it is an heirloom :pac: but my mam did buy it as new when I was a kid so it's basically like a child to her!

I have off street parking in the house I've just bought but tbh I don't fancy it sitting there never to be touched - the Road Tax is out as of 31st Dec 2020 & the DCC Parking Permit is up in 10 days so I need to shift it in the next week or so. I've had a couple of PMs about passing it on, I'm not going to scrap it given the interest... seems like a waste to turn it into scrap metal.

Just had a look at the thread - he seems like a dab hand at it, definitely not something I would be or have any interest in.

Gavin "shels"

Just seen this... 3k for a similar enough car!
https://www.carsireland.ie/2687790

L1011

Bigger engine... and utterly delusional!

9 prior owners according to the dealer site.

Gavin "shels"

L1011 wrote: »

Bigger engine... and utterly delusional!

9 prior owners according to the dealer site.

Had a feeling they added an extra optimistic digit to the end! :pac:

Isambard

looks poor compared to the one the OP has.

kaizersoze

Now look what I started.........:P:P

It's a little cracker with a nice history OP
Rust is doable and the mechanical handy.

I'd hate for that to go to a scrapper. Someone adopt it....please!

mickdw

L1011 wrote: »

Bigger engine... and utterly delusional!

9 prior owners according to the dealer site.

And id say the arches have had a couple of cover up jobs too.

yamaha4life

There is a facebook group irish classic car drivers they also have a sister group for selling if you join the main page and put it up on there you will find a genuine buyer fairly handy, id say it would be worth approx €300 but im sure someone would love to have it

Tzardine

Shamless plug for a thread I started in the classic car section.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058125035

I bought a completely rust free one, in the more desirable 3 door, and with the better Zetec engine for just €500. Mileage was lower too, at only 37k.

Cost me about another €50 to sort out a window and the heater and it sailed through the NCT.

Best advice for the one in the OP is to part it out, or scrap it. Once they rust, they are done.

Toyotafanboi

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/ford-fiesta/26953818

So, which one of you is already flipping this, having done zero prep whatsoever :pac:

Tzardine

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/ford-fiesta/26953818

So, which one of you is already flipping this, having done zero prep whatsoever :pac:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>straight to the dreamers thread with them.

Gavin "shels"

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/ford-fiesta/26953818

So, which one of you is already flipping this, having done zero prep whatsoever :pac:

That's my mechanic :pac: I had to take it off the road so he's put it into his storage!

Isambard

storage? looks like he's selling it and he didn't even wash it for the photo

Gavin "shels"

Isambard wrote: »

storage? looks like he's selling it and he didn't even wash it for the photo

He's storing it & selling it on my behalf while sourcing me a new car

Isambard

€650 isn't too much over the top. Best of luck, I'll share the ad here and there

Gavin shels

Gavin shels wrote: »

Just seen this... 3k for a similar enough car!
https://www.carsireland.ie/2687790

He's operating from the old Fruit of the Loom factory iirc. Most of his stuff is priced not too bad, that's looney though.

Gavin "shels"

Isambard wrote: »

€650 isn't too much over the top. Best of luck, I'll share the ad here and there

Once someone get's use of it I'll be happy

Oops!

It'll rot there with that price tag on it.... Be realistic.

Tzardine

Oops! wrote: »

It'll rot there with that price tag on it.... Be realistic.

It absolutely will.

Its barely worth that price with the work done and a fresh NCT.

Gavin "shels"

Definitely way too much - not my price.

Oops!

Your car... Put your price on it.