Strand of electric on boundary fencing, close to public road/paths

Is there any issue running a single strand of electric on top of a boundary fence which in places runs along a public road, a private neighbours road, and an unofficial path the public uses. Obviously I would have signs in place. Anything else to be considered?

blue5000

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Is there any issue running a single strand of electric on top of a boundary fence which in places runs along a public road, a private neighbours road, and an unofficial path the public uses. Obviously I would have signs in place. Anything else to be considered?

Why on top? Just put it on your side of the hedge with room for a flail hedge cutter in between the hedge and wire.

blue5000

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Why on top? Just put it on your side of the hedge with room for a flail hedge cutter in between the hedge and wire.

There's no hedges. On top, as in it'd be the top wire above the sheep wire. It's a liability question not a practical farm workings one.

I thought I had read somewhere before about barbed wire being frowned on where the public could touch it. I was wondering if there's any similar issue with electric, though it's the public I'm looking to fence out.

Tonynewholland

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There's no hedges. On top, as in it'd be the top wire above the sheep wire. It's a liability question not a practical farm workings one.

I thought I had read somewhere before about barbed wire being frowned on where the public could touch it. I was wondering if there's any similar issue with electric, though it's the public I'm looking to fence out.

Every other business puts up security fencing around their property why couldn’t a farmer do likewise with what ever fencing they want

Say my name

Tonynewholland wrote: »

Every other business puts up security fencing around their property why couldn’t a farmer do likewise with what ever fencing they want

They don't electrify it though.
And barbed/razor wire is used way out of arms reach to be deemed accidental injury.

If the Op goes ahead with it on top of the wall joining the pathway. Warning will have to be given.
Any judge looking at that if an incident were ever to occur would know it wasn't for the livestock on the field side.

If it were me I'd go with sheep wire, two strands of barb and then the electric on top of that on the inside of the wall.
Have it chest high.

_Brian

Put the wire up and a few signs, don’t bother electrifying it at all. The townies will Never touch it to know any better.

Say my name

Say my name wrote: »

They don't electrify it though.
And barbed/razor wire is used way out of arms reach to be deemed accidental injury.

If the Op goes ahead with it on top of the wall joining the pathway. Warning will have to be given.
Any judge looking at that if an incident were ever to occur would know it wasn't for the livestock on the field side.

If it were me I'd go with sheep wire, two strands of barb and then the electric on top of that on the inside of the wall.
Have it chest high.

The vast majority of the boundary is just post and wire, no walls (or hedges ). I have signs got already and intend on getting more, they'll look ugly as sin but attraction is the point of them I suppose.

Best I'm prepared to do is run the wire on the inside of the posts, and have many, many signs. For 3.5km I'm not buying that many offset insulators or some such.

There will be barbed on top of the sheep wire, then the electric will go as high as practical without leaving room to duck under.

_Brian wrote: »

Put the wire up and a few signs, don’t bother electrifying it at all. The townies will Never touch it to know any better.

You'd be surprised here Brian. I've one field gate where they broke every single horizontal bar, save for the very top and very bottom of the gate.

There's just too much disrespect and liability with the weight of tourist numbers in my area. Dogs, gates open, camping and fires, broken bits, fences gone wonky in places with people climbing them.

The straw that broke my back was meeting a lad a few weeks ago who traipsed across multiple neighbours fields and my own, when I met him he was coming out of an old house on the land. "I'm just doing the loop walk", which is over a KM away, which he said he knew.

Before him, a couple who watched me come out a gate after leaving in stakes, passed within feet of me, never said hello, or may we walk your land to see the view? And.... Climbed the very broken (but stockproof as I had to sheep wire the frame) gate.

NcdJd

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The vast majority of the boundary is just post and wire, no walls (or hedges ). I have signs got already and intend on getting more, they'll look ugly as sin but attraction is the point of them I suppose.

Best I'm prepared to do is run the wire on the inside of the posts, and have many, many signs. For 3.5km I'm not buying that many offset insulators or some such.

There will be barbed on top of the sheep wire, then the electric will go as high as practical without leaving room to duck under.



You'd be surprised here Brian. I've one field gate where they broke every single horizontal bar, save for the very top and very bottom of the gate.

There's just too much disrespect and liability with the weight of tourist numbers in my area. Dogs, gates open, camping and fires, broken bits, fences gone wonky in places with people climbing them.

The straw that broke my back was meeting a lad a few weeks ago who traipsed across multiple neighbours fields and my own, when I met him he was coming out of an old house on the land. "I'm just doing the loop walk", which is over a KM away, which he said he knew.

Before him, a couple who watched me come out a gate after leaving in stakes, passed within feet of me, never said hello, or may we walk your land to see the view? And.... Climbed the very broken (but stockproof as I had to sheep wire the frame) gate.

Pallasade fence be an option if it's a short run ?

Neighbour has the same problem, locks cut, fences down, hedging / trees cut down as it was spoiling their views, barbed wire cut. Expanding gardens etc

Some absolute entitled cnts out there. Another farm up the road from me has built 8 foot wall along an estate. Lads are now using ladders to get over the wall into the field.

NcdJd

NcdJd wrote: »

Pallasade fence be an option if it's a short run ?

Neighbour has the same problem, locks cut, fences down, hedging / trees cut down as it was spoiling their views, barbed wire cut. Expanding gardens etc

Some absolute entitled cnts out there. Another farm up the road from me has built 8 foot wall along an estate. Lads are now using ladders to get over the wall into the field.

Nah, it's +3km or there abouts, the joys of fragmented holdings.

Base price

TBH I think your wasting your time putting up an electric strand, it's only going to invite someone to throw a chain/bar over it, earth it to the barbed wire and cut it.
If **** insist on trespassing/crossing your private property they will find a way.

Base price

Base price wrote: »

TBH I think your wasting your time putting up an electric strand, it's only going to invite someone to throw a chain/bar over it, earth it to the barbed wire and cut it.
If **** insist on trespassing/crossing your private property they will find a way.

They're not that kind that'll cut wire. The damage already done is from climbing over stuff.

Say my name

So you're saying we'll read about this in The Irish Times?

Say my name

Say my name wrote: »

So you're saying we'll read about this in The Irish Times?

Ye might, I won't :D

green daries

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Ye might, I won't :D

Thanks that made me laugh out loud
Ahh I needed that laugh 😆
On an aside isn't it terrible the way the country is headed with no respect for peoples property

Base price

green daries wrote: »

Thanks that made me laugh out loud
Ahh I needed that laugh ��
On an aside isn't it terrible the way the country is headed with no respect for peoples property

Fookin "right to roam brigade" have been pushing for access to our land for years. I don't know which I detest more - the vegans or them.

J.O. Farmer

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Fookin "right to roam brigade" have been pushing for access to our land for years. I don't know which I detest more - the vegans or them.

You wouldn't mind the right to roam if they also believed in responsibilities that go alongside rights.

For example, a responsibility to not damage anybody's property

a responsibility to be aware livestock can be unpredictable and take this into account.

a responsibility to watch where they're going and pay for their own medical bills and pain and suffering if something happens to them.

Unfortunately judges in this country mostly don't believe in anybody being accountable for their own actions when they get a boo boo.

Base price

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

You wouldn't mind the right to roam if they also believed in responsibilities that go alongside rights.

For example, a responsibility to not damage anybody's property

a responsibility to be aware livestock can be unpredictable and take this into account.

a responsibility to watch where they're going and pay for their own medical bills and pain and suffering if something happens to them.

Unfortunately judges in this country mostly don't believe in anybody being accountable for their own actions when they get a boo boo.

Actually I do mind :mad:

We have plenty of roads/boreens/lanes/tracks that are classed as public roads. I remember reading a EU report some years ago stating that Ireland (Rep) had the most roads per hectare compaired to any other member State.

20silkcut

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

You wouldn't mind the right to roam if they also believed in responsibilities that go alongside rights.

For example, a responsibility to not damage anybody's property

a responsibility to be aware livestock can be unpredictable and take this into account.

a responsibility to watch where they're going and pay for their own medical bills and pain and suffering if something happens to them.

Unfortunately judges in this country mostly don't believe in anybody being accountable for their own actions when they get a boo boo.

Unfortunately the legal profession in this country operate in such a small market that the numerous barristers/ lawyers that graduate every year have to justify their existence by operating a revolving door criminal justice system and an absolute cash cow public liability system where landowners are held in full liability for every ankle twist or knee scrape that occurs on their land. Forcing them to insure themselves to the hilt and fence people off their land.
And the real sickener is how the blame for this lack of access to the country side is put almost entirely at the feet of the farmer and never at the legal system which fattens on and is sustained by the litigation arising from it.
Funny how our neighbours in the U.K. have such a different regime where the land is owned by the Aristocratic elite and the public liability litigation is far less juicy than it is here.

Markcheese

I'd carry on with a well tensioned strand of electric and plenty of warning signs - it's a pity the insulators aren't electric yelliw as well ...
Probably a lot safer than someone catching themselves on a strand of barbed wire ..