Barrister wants €250,000 for "freedom" case

Howard Beale

So a Galway based barrister wants quarter of a million to take a case against the State. Whilst I disagree with lockdowns for my own reasons I also disagree with this shameless hustling and grifting. Surely the state should be challenged but why need so much money? Doesn't this undermine the case she is fighting for if its all for the moolah?
Isn't freedom actually free? Suppose she doesn't care. Over 80 grand raised. That will do for a new car and mortgage down payment and a long foreign holiday.

Blondini

I'll take note of her name, because if I ever need legal representation, I want to be sure to avoid someone with such a tremendously stupid fcucking idea.

xhomelezz

It's all ok, just shows people have plenty of money to spend on bs like that, still. Maybe she promised some interesting refunds.

Notmything

I'm just shocked that they've raised so much

CIARAN_BOYLE

Isn't there a risk of champtery here?

banie01

Following on from a different conversation I had recently.
I would love to see how the crowd funding effort plays out with regard the fairly extreme exclusions of champerty and maintenance.

Seeking to crowdfund an action, when perhaps a client and an instruction should be her 1st port of call regarding any potential action?

Surely if she could gain a client willing to give such instruction?
The state will pick up the cost when her "inevitable" victory occurs?

John Hutton

The thing is, is that there are probably some aspects of these restriction that are actually illegal, so her campaign has a very faint wift of possibility and plausibility to it. But this seems a pure grifting exercise.

Declan Ganley has a case running and he does pose an interesting legal question that there is some merit to... obviously he is paying it for it himself.

pjohnson

Suprised it took this long for someone to try and grift and make a profit from it.

Free money tbf.

banie01

John Hutton wrote: »

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Declan Ganley has a case running and he does pose an interesting legal question that there is some merit to... obviously he is paying it for it himself.

Very true.
Ganly is running and funding a case, and much as I believe there is a need for the current regime of restrictions.
Ganly is raising importants regarding fundamental freedoms those restrictions impede.
It is a matter of public interest.

This crowd though, seeking to fund a potential action when they haven't even managed to get a client yet?
I'm not au fait with the bar, but I had assumed that barristers acted on instruction?

The mooting of a potential case, seeking funds for a proposed action without even a client is surely against the rules of the bar society?

Annasopra

Howard Beale wrote: »

So a Galway based barrister wants quarter of a million to take a case against the State. Whilst I disagree with lockdowns for my own reasons I also disagree with this shameless hustling and grifting.

Funny that..... cause it seems like you are promoting her crowdfunder

Howard Beale

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Funny that..... cause it seems like you are promoting her crowdfunder

By saying shes (in my opinion) keeping it for herself???

I am against restrictions they are draconian unjust and cruel but equally against people swindling from it too.

I can agree with her to end lockdown restrictions as they are absurd and draconian but not agree with her gofundme money raising.
Can't be that hard to grasp?

Annasopra

Howard Beale wrote: »

By saying shes (in my opinion) keeping it for herself???

I am against restrictions they are draconian unjust and cruel but equally against people swindling from it too.

I can agree with her to end lockdown restrictions as they are absurd and draconian but not agree with her gofundme money raising.
Can't be that hard to grasp?

Why put the link up then? Nah you're obviously shilling it here.

Beasty

TBH I'm staggered people are prepared to fund something like this. It's ultimately a case of let's cause more disruption for everyone if she can, but she wants others to fund her cause.

If she has the courage of her convictions she can fund it herself. But she wants others to fund what is essentially a personal crusade.

John Hutton

banie01 wrote: »

Very true.
Ganly is running and funding a case, and much as I believe there is a need for the current regime of restrictions.
Ganly is raising importants regarding fundamental freedoms those restrictions impede.
It is a matter of public interest.

This crowd though, seeking to fund a potential action when they haven't even managed to get a client yet?
I'm not au fait with the bar, but I had assumed that barristers acted on instruction?

The mooting of a potential case, seeking funds for a proposed action without even a client is surely against the rules of the bar society?

I think I saw somewhere she was using some of it to get counsel opinion and such. If funding is ever accounted for, I'd say there would be a significant outlay on 'research' and the like, and perhaps she would instruct counsel, rather than act herself.

drunkmonkey

Maybe she should look at Bosnia and Herzegovina where restrictions on movements and mandatory masks had been ruled unconstitutional this week.
It reads like the abuse of power that's happened here, it started off for the common good and snowballed into the hostage situation we're now stuck in.

The case needs to be taken on our behalf and will win on some grounds, not convinced she's the right person but best of luck to her, 80k won't cover costs, did Gemma and John even get their bill yet?

Currently watching the Barrier where they're been locked down due to the noroviris, it sure isn't helping to reinforce my love of this new normal. It's like a glimpse into our future if we continue to tolerate this for your safety.

elperello

Howard Beale wrote: »

So a Galway based barrister wants quarter of a million to take a case against the State. Whilst I disagree with lockdowns for my own reasons I also disagree with this shameless hustling and grifting. Surely the state should be challenged but why need so much money? Doesn't this undermine the case she is fighting for if its all for the moolah?
Isn't freedom actually free? Suppose she doesn't care. Over 80 grand raised. That will do for a new car and mortgage down payment and a long foreign holiday.

Pity you didn't read your own link which contains the following clarification.

"Finally, for completeness, I wish to confirm that I shall not be drawing any funds for any services I undertake, the purpose of this campaign is to allow me to engage and pay others to carry out tasks that I do not have the time, knowledge or expertise to undertake myself.

I also confirm that we will keep you informed throughout the process as to our progress and use of funds."

Coillte_Bhoy

Saw the thread title and thought, surely not Ms O' Mahony? Yep, shock horror

Howard Beale

Howard Beale wrote: »

So a Galway based barrister wants quarter of a million to take a case against the State. Whilst I disagree with lockdowns for my own reasons I also disagree with this shameless hustling and grifting. Surely the state should be challenged but why need so much money? Doesn't this undermine the case she is fighting for if its all for the moolah?
Isn't freedom actually free? Suppose she doesn't care. Over 80 grand raised. That will do for a new car and mortgage down payment and a long foreign holiday.

Trump playbook. Doubt she believes what she is representing when looks at the detail.

Fools and their money etc.

Donald Trump

elperello wrote: »

Pity you didn't read your own link which contains the following clarification.

"Finally, for completeness, I wish to confirm that I shall not be drawing any funds for any services I undertake, the purpose of this campaign is to allow me to engage and pay others to carry out tasks that I do not have the time, knowledge or expertise to undertake myself.

I also confirm that we will keep you informed throughout the process as to our progress and use of funds."

Ah grand. I might set up an oul' gofundme meself. "Stop the corona". Just a target of 1m quid. I confirm that I will use the money to stop corona. I won't be using it to pay myself (although I have my fingers crossed behind back and I never ruled out paying my dog or my immediate family members)



Will I count you in for 100?

Definitely a substantial overlap between those donating to this charlatan, Irish Trumpers and Gemmerz devotees.

boombang

Those hats scream nutjob to me.

suicide_circus

She may well be nuts and or a charlatan

But we always need people in society pushing back against the government whatever it's doing, not just cheerleading. It's part of a healthy democracy. People like her in China and Russia disappear.

Lockdowns are costing the state a fortune. What's the lizard people/illuminati angle here?

The health experts were always going to recommend lock downs. Or do people think the Covid19 pandemic is a fake? People aren't dying from it?!

Is there a pedantic case? Possibly, but with a vaccine (global controlling device?) developed after the world pretty much prioritised it and a likely solution in 6 months... suck it up buttercups!

Annasopra

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lockdowns are costing the state a fortune. What's the lizard people/illuminati angle here?

The health experts were always going to recommend lock downs. Or do people think the Covid19 pandemic is a fake? People aren't dying from it?!

Is there a pedantic case? Possibly, but with a vaccine (global controlling device?) developed after the world pretty much prioritised it and a likely solution in 6 months... suck it up buttercups!

Whats the lizard people angle? She is encouraging people to fake being disabled. She has links to all the far right in the country. Rowan Croft, Dave Cullen, Hermann Kelly, Yellow Vests etc

https://twitter.com/TraceyOMahony81/status/1269298539475218432?s=19

drunkmonkey

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

She is encouraging people to fake being disabled.

Meanwhile on the other side of the fence we have Tony & Co encouraging healthy people to pretend their sick and a threat to life.

xhomelezz

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Meanwhile on the other side of the fence we have Tony & Co encouraging healthy people to pretend their sick and a threat to life.

Are you serious? Post something like this is a fùcking joke.

If that's the way you see it, you can sell your house, empty your pockets and send it all to her.

alchemist33

The government...

determined that you must wear a face covering in order to use public transport and in order to gain entry to indoor retail outlets (in violation of your right to bodily integrity).

Like, how? Such a simple thing to do that reduces risk but they're lumping it in with having your kidneys stolen.

suicide_circus

suicide_circus wrote: »

She may well be nuts and or a charlatan

But we always need people in society pushing back against the government whatever it's doing, not just cheerleading. It's part of a healthy democracy. People like her in China and Russia disappear.

We need less conmen and chancers, not more.

This has nothing to do whatsoever with a noble civic duty, and everything to do with realising that there are a lot of suckers out there.

I have no issue whatsoever with people challenging the lockdowns and whatever (they'll go nowhere as there are provisions in the Constitution to limit freedoms) but this is the dictionary definition of a swindle.

elperello

Donald Trump wrote: »

Ah grand. I might set up an oul' gofundme meself. "Stop the corona". Just a target of 1m quid. I confirm that I will use the money to stop corona. I won't be using it to pay myself (although I have my fingers crossed behind back and I never ruled out paying my dog or my immediate family members)



Will I count you in for 100?

Certainly not Mistah T

I would however advise against suggesting financial impropriety when dealing with someone so well versed in the law.

Just donated. About time someone stood up to the Nazis in government

xhomelezz

Edz87 wrote: »

Just donated. About time someone stood up to the Nazis in government

What about aliens? Any there as well?

Think it's about the time to setup gofundme for myself as well. Looks like it's easy money to make

xhomelezz

xhomelezz wrote: »

Think it's about the time to setup gofundme for myself as well. Looks like it's easy money to make

Work away!

AmberGold

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Whats the lizard people angle? She is encouraging people to fake being disabled. She has links to all the far right in the country. Rowan Croft, Dave Cullen, Hermann Kelly, Yellow Vests etc

https://twitter.com/TraceyOMahony81/status/1269298539475218432?s=19

Who are those donkeys with her in the photo?

For Forks Sake

Howard Beale wrote: »

So a Galway based barrister wants quarter of a million to take a case against the State.

My name is Tracey O’ Mahony and I am a Barrister-at-Law

Hmmmmmm, about that...

No person of that name listed as member of the Bar

https://www.lawlibrary.ie/members/results.aspx?fname=tracey&sname=O%e2%80%99+Mahony&DPA=0&language=None&circuit=All+Circuits&areas=All+Areas&status=Either&specialisation=All+Areas

Howard Beale

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Why put the link up then? Nah you're obviously shilling it here.

WOW you got me Columbo take long?. Believe whatever you want what do I care.


Personally don't agree with any lockdowns but shes swindling these people.

One thing I notice too on the Gofundme there is a lot of large anonymous donations. Usually done by the people running the swindle to encourage others to donate and keep the pretence going that loads of people are donating large amounts. A savvy swindler if you will.

gordongekko

Love how it was I need €50k to do this case.....oh hold on I've got the €50k how about making it €250k. That's some jump without explaining how the first €50k was spent without little success or progress.

elperello

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Hmmmmmm, about that...

No person of that name listed as member of the Bar

https://www.lawlibrary.ie/members/results.aspx?fname=tracey&sname=O%e2%80%99+Mahony&DPA=0&language=None&circuit=All+Circuits&areas=All+Areas&status=Either&specialisation=All+Areas

You will find her listed here -

https://www.lsra.ie/for-law-professionals/roll-of-practising-barristers/

suicide_circus

Deleted User wrote: »

We need less conmen and chancers, not more.

This has nothing to do whatsoever with a noble civic duty, and everything to do with realising that there are a lot of suckers out there.

I have no issue whatsoever with people challenging the lockdowns and whatever (they'll go nowhere as there are provisions in the Constitution to limit freedoms) but this is the dictionary definition of a swindle.

As i said it could well be a swindle but restrictions need to be pushed back upon constantly and if con artists want to do it so be it

RandomViewer

Thought you couldn't use other people's money to take a case, isn't that how Dinny blocked McGinleys action against him?

B.A._Baracus

So let's see if I got this straight...

Some solicitor wants 250 grand to make a case to the government about lockdowns going against your rights Yadda Yadda (an idea she probably stole from some other american Lawyer truth be known)
So she doesn't want to spend a single cent of her own money "paying someone else" or use any of her "own time" (as she stated herself) in such a case.

So she then creates a crowd funding campaign so moronic fu*ktards (yes, it's a word ) can give her the money.
In which she'll probably, I dunno keep 230 grand for herself, use 20 grand (or so) and post updates saying this money went here, this money went there.

All in all... I reckon no such case will ever come about. She'll be talking about "how it's happening any day now" in 5 years time while people will forget about the money they gave her.

In the end she'll come out with a nice new house :pac:

For Forks Sake

elperello wrote: »

You will find her listed here -

https://www.lsra.ie/for-law-professionals/roll-of-practising-barristers/

Annasopra

Howard Beale wrote: »

WOW you got me Columbo take long?. Believe whatever you want what do I care.


Personally don't agree with any lockdowns but shes swindling these people.

One thing I notice too on the Gofundme there is a lot of large anonymous donations. Usually done by the people running the swindle to encourage others to donate and keep the pretence going that loads of people are donating large amounts. A savvy swindler if you will.

Also a handy way to launder money...

John Hutton

For Forks Sake wrote: »

A barrister does not have to be a member of the law library.

paw patrol

elperello wrote: »

Pity you didn't read your own link which contains the following clarification.

"Finally, for completeness, I wish to confirm that I shall not be drawing any funds for any services I undertake, the purpose of this campaign is to allow me to engage and pay others to carry out tasks that I do not have the time, knowledge or expertise to undertake myself.

I also confirm that we will keep you informed throughout the process as to our progress and use of funds."

its' amazing how the good and great here will just vomit down their opinions and ignore the text in front of them

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Whats the lizard people angle? She is encouraging people to fake being disabled. She has links to all the far right in the country. Rowan Croft, Dave Cullen, Hermann Kelly, Yellow Vests etc

https://twitter.com/TraceyOMahony81/status/1269298539475218432?s=19

but isn't everybody you don't agree with far right?

Howard Beale

paw patrol wrote: »

its' amazing how the good and great here will just vomit down their opinions and ignore the text in front of them

Yes seen it but I don't belive her. Do you? Shes hardly going to say on it Im keeping it all for myself to hell with ye is she.

Of course theres a disclaimer like that. Keeps them donations flying in.

paw patrol

Howard Beale wrote: »

Yes seen it but I don't belive her. Do you? Shes hardly going to say on it Im keeping it all for myself to hell with ye is she.

Of course theres a disclaimer like that. Keeps them donations flying in.

but that's theft that's a different matter - lets wait for that to happen.
So far there is no evidence she isn't of good character so to baseless besmirch the woman because you don't agree with her stance is unpleasant nasty behaviour.


anyway (not you per se) we get the whole mantra of quotas and all that from the media etc... - we want more women involved in everything - clearly only the right thinking kinda women. anti consensus or non- correct thinking women need not apply....

whisky_galore

boombang wrote: »

Those hats scream nutjob to me.

Make Ireland Gullible Again.

feargale

I wonder if there was a lawyer on the Titanic who offered for a fee to threaten proceedings against the shipping company for ordering people on deck and thus disrupting their enjoyment of the voyage,

B.A._Baracus

She's probably reading this thread.



.... Hi Tracey
Don't you think 250 is a tad too much lol.

Annasopra

paw patrol wrote: »

its' amazing how the good and great here will just vomit down their opinions and ignore the text in front of them

but isn't everybody you don't agree with far right?

Haha not at all

Howard Beale

paw patrol wrote: »

but that's theft that's a different matter - lets wait for that to happen.
So far there is no evidence she isn't of good character so to baseless besmirch the woman because you don't agree with her stance is unpleasant nasty behaviour.


anyway (not you per se) we get the whole mantra of quotas and all that from the media etc... - we want more women involved in everything - clearly only the right thinking kinda women. anti consensus or non- correct thinking women need not apply....

Not besmirching her don't know her from Adam. I agree with her on many things but this money raising malarkey is suspicious to me. Best way for her to shut me up is a huge case against the state winning in jubilance mass media coverage and photographers outside the four courts and bookies next favourite to be Taoiseach but I won't hold my breathe on that. In fact doubt any case will happen.

By the way the raised €86,000 will help with any hurt feelings of so called besmirchings on an annoymous online forum.