Acid attack in Dublin takeaway; woman arrested *Mod Warning in OP*

JeffreyEpspeen

https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-arrested-after-acid-attack-at-takeaway-restaurant-in-dublin-5299339-Dec2020/


Hopefully this doesn't become as commonplace as it did in England. I can't recall any since that poor Chinese lady was attacked - then again we have a tendency to under-report such things.

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Stan27

Horrable thing to do!!

What a scumbag thing to do

spaceHopper

Anybody who does this should be give life. It's a horrible thing to do. It's far to easy to buy, woodies had it at one point not sure if they still do. You can get it in other HW type shops to, even by accident buy the wrong variant of a product and it's a strong acid.

LuasSimon

Surprised it isn’t more common .
Free legal aid solicitors will be able to say you tripped as you were bringing home acid for young Jamie or Chelsea’s science project etc etc

Chalk McHugh

Some serious life lasting injuries with this 'new type' cowardly attack. Quite a few high profile incidents in London over the years with some hefty sentences handed down.

Didn't a couple of young Waterford lads receive horrific facial injuries due to an acid attack? 20 year prison sentences should be mandatory for such attacks here. Won't stop every scumbag but should act as some sort of deterrent.

Wibbs

spaceHopper wrote: »

Anybody who does this should be give life. It's a horrible thing to do.

This +1000. Crimes like this can quickly spread like memes and we as a society need to send a very clear message right at the start that it won't be tolerated, which should serve to stamp out the potential copycats.

Richard Hillman

I think thats the 3rd or 4th in recent years and still no legislation has been passed to make it a more severe offence than assault. Despite the fact that it has been a massive problem in the UK and imported from UK gang culture

Attempting to Permanently disfigure somebody is right up there with rape and attempted murder.

tdf7187

LuasSimon wrote: »

Surprised it isn’t more common .
Free legal aid solicitors will be able to say you tripped as you were bringing home acid for young Jamie or Chelsea’s science project etc etc

Hmm. Jamie or Chelsea strike me as unlikely names for the offspring of acid attack perps. We are not talking about a dustup in the Horseshoe Bor after too many Heiners and gin and tontons.

McGinniesta

JeffreyEpspeen wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-arrested-after-acid-attack-at-takeaway-restaurant-in-dublin-5299339-Dec2020/


Hopefully this doesn't become as commonplace as it did in England. I can't recall any since that poor Chinese lady was attacked - then again we have a tendency to under-report such things.

Trust me, if there was an attack of this nature you would have heard ALL about it.

Wibbs

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Quite a few high profile incidents in London over the years with some hefty sentences handed down.

Yeah, it seemed to come from nowhere and then there was a rake of similar attacks and now it's died down again thankfully. Problem is Ireland's often daft court system and minimal sentencing.

boombang

I thought such attacks were usually where somebody has a really nasty personal grudge (jilted lover etc). This doesn't seem to fit the bill. It's a really horrible thing to do and I would be concerned if it became a more common form of assault.

hynesie08

When they say acid what are they actually referring to? Is it a caustic soda or a bleach composite? Scummy scummy thing to do.....

tdf7187

The first time I remember any media reporting of acid attacks was in relation to an attack two English girls, but it didn't happen in the UK, it happened when they living in Zanzibar. There seemed to have been a possible racist element to that attack, but this aspect was played down in the media reportage.

JeffreyEpspeen

tdf7187 wrote: »

The first time I remember any media reporting of acid attacks was in relation to an attack two English girls, but it didn't happen in the UK, it happened when they living in Zanzibar. There seemed to have been a possible racist element to that attack, but this aspect was played down in the media reportage.

I completely forgot about this until you mentioned it just now.

Riesen_Meal

JeffreyEpspeen wrote: »

I completely forgot about this until you mentioned it just now.

Remember the young lad down in Waterford who got was attacked also about a year or two ago, football player kid...

biko

It's a terrible terrible way to attack someone. Should be life in prison/deportation if applicable.

For Forks Sake

LuasSimon wrote: »

Free legal aid solicitors will be able to say you tripped as you were bringing home acid for young Jamie or Chelsea’s science project etc etc

Hopefully the CCTV from the takeaway premises says otherwise

Ubbquittious

hynesie08 wrote: »

When they say acid what are they actually referring to? Is it a caustic soda or a bleach composite? Scummy scummy thing to do.....

No that would be an alkaline attack

Sam Hain

Ubbquittious wrote: »

No that would be an alkaline attack

Hope he returns with the question. "And what do you base that on?"

Richard Hillman

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think thats the 3rd or 4th in recent years and still no legislation has been passed to make it a more severe offence than assault. Despite the fact that it has been a massive problem in the UK and imported from UK gang culture

Attempting to Permanently disfigure somebody is right up there with rape and attempted murder.

You want a more serious offence than 'causing serious harm' ?
Which carries a possible life sentence?
How much more serious can there be?

AutoTuning

There needs to be specific legislation for this and it needs to carry a very heavy sentences as it’s a deliberate attempt to disfigure someone and it has life long consequences.

The law is there to make someone think twice before doing something like this as much as it’s there for justice reasons. There needs to be a message that’s clear that if you do something like this you’ll be gone away for a long time.

MrMusician18

bubblypop wrote: »

You want a more serious offence than 'causing serious harm' ?
Which carries a possible life sentence?
How much more serious can there be?

All acid attacks need to be prosecuted as assault causing serious harm.

I'd be all for a new offence assault with intent to disfigure and make that mandatory life.

JJayoo

Any Acid used against another person should be charged as attempted murder

hynesie08

Ubbquittious wrote: »

No that would be an alkaline attack

Fair enough, what's the solution??

buried

'Life in prison' is a sentence too lenient anyways.
Bring some 'Life in Prison' with 'Hard Labour' into the game along with it.
People think they are being industrious mixing chemicals in order to throw into peoples faces, let them mix some cement and tarmac instead for the rest of their lives instead of sitting in a room watching television.

Necro

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Sir Oxman

I agree with the majority of posters - very, very harsh sentence for anyone who does this.
Those lads in Waterford got no justice at all for what they were put through - the perpetrators that did it got a juvenile caution.

Beechwoodspark

Should be life imprisonment at least for anyone found guilty of this

MrMusician18

MrMusician18 wrote: »

All acid attacks need to be prosecuted as assault causing serious harm.

I'd be all for a new offence assault with intent to disfigure and make that mandatory life.

We dont need new offence.
It's covered already.

Foxhound38

I can think of very few ways to attack someone that are worse than permenantly disfiguring them. I hope the person responsible doesn't see the outside of a jail cell for a long time.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

It is such a horrific, cowardly, limp dick (or indeed limp vagina) thing to do. Truly scummy.

Sardonicat

Any idea as to motive?

touts

These attacks are very well thought out. They are unlikely to kill but are likely to cause serious life changing injuries. It is an exceptionally cruel act deliberately chosen for the long term physical and phycological damage it will do to the victim. And because they don't kill and are unlikely to kill they only carry relatively minor sentences if any actual jail time.

It should carry an mandatory life sentence. But instead the justice industry recognises the financial potential of these attackers and will get them off with a year or two and have them back on the streets earning more money for the justice industry. It needs political intervention to take sentencing out of the hands of the lawyers and judges who have a financial interest in keeping such criminals on the streets. The law should dictate a mandatory life sentence for anyone using acid in an attack and 10 years for anyone found carrying acid without a permit signed by a Garda.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

touts wrote: »

These attacks are very well thought out. They are unlikely to kill but are likely to cause serious life changing injuries. It is an exceptionally cruel act deliberately chosen for the long term physical and phycological damage it will do to the victim. And because they don't kill and are unlikely to kill they only carry relatively minor sentences if any actual jail time.

It should carry an mandatory life sentence. But instead the justice industry recognises the financial potential of these attackers and will get them off with a year or two and have them back on the streets earning more money for the justice industry. It needs political intervention to take sentencing out of the hands of the lawyers and judges who have a financial interest in keeping such criminals on the streets. The law should dictate a mandatory life sentence for anyone using acid in an attack and 10 years for anyone found carrying acid without a permit signed by a Garda.

Yup, exactly. That’s what makes them so horrific. Imagine how rotten the soul is of a person who would plan an attack like this? If I ever realised I was that vindictive, I’d want somebody to drag a sharp implement across my throat and put me out of my misery.

grassylawn

****ing freaks of nature. Who does **** like that?

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/act/26/section/4/enacted/en/html

serious harm” means injury which creates a substantial risk of death or which causes serious disfigurement or substantial loss or impairment of the mobility of the body as a whole or of the function of any particular bodily member or organ;

KevRossi

Last case of this the lads who did it got off scot free. Surely on the basis of our code of law the cnuts who did this in Tallaght should be let off too? Judges have a lot to answer for as well.

KevRossi

KevRossi wrote: »

Last case of this the lads who did it got off scot free. Surely on the basis of our code of law the cnuts who did this in Tallaght should be let off too? Judges have a lot to answer for as well.

If it's the case I'm thinking of, of the young lad in the south of the country maybe wexford or waterford ? it went something along the lines of the attackers being better served by the probation act or some utter scutter. What about the poor victim. Justice system would boil your piss in this country at times.

Eduard Khil

Maiming someone like this should definitely get a long jail term, absolutely heinous thing to do to someone.

suicide_circus

ozmo wrote: »

I had a look in twitter for any info...

And there are 3 similar attacks in Dublin past 10 days!

Tallaght yesterday
Finglas last week
Stillorgan/Blackrock week before that

What?!

ozmo

suicide_circus wrote: »

What?!

Oops - my bad - all December and Dublin but last years.

Mr.burgess

Anyone that would do this in my opinion deserves a bullet into the the back of the head

Necro

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Mr.burgess

Mr.burgess wrote: »

Anyone that would do this in my opinion deserves a bullet into the the back of the head

Could be onto something there.
Might be a bit quick though.

Gibbet?

dublinman1990

What an disgusting & vile thing to do upon these 3 young women. And it all happens with literally just over a week before Christmas. The woman who did this vile attack on these young women deserves a good hiding for what she did to them. The level of physical damage that the woman has committed on her victim's families is now everlasting. At least we all know what to say when an attack like this takes place in Ireland. Anyone, male or female, who carries out these attacks on their innocent victims in this country are vile pieces of human filth. They rightly deserve the public humiliation of being locked up in a prison cell right up until they are dead.

Infini

Need to legistlate so this kind of attack has the same weight as attempted murder. They'd think twice if they were thrown in the joy for that kinda crap.

MrMusician18

bubblypop wrote: »

We dont need new offence.
It's covered already.

We do, but the offence in which is prosecuted is very broad. Narrowing the offence down allows for mandatory sentencing to severely punish the particular behaviour.

breadmonster

Need to start by building more prision's, doesn't have to cost a fortune like the children's hospitable disaster just a huge ugly one in the middle of nowhere.
Were getting to a point where theres more scroat's running around wrecking the place than normal people.

Life in prison is the only just sentence for filth like that attacker.

Hard time.

Spanish Eyes

That is awful.

Sadly assaults and injuries are inflicted every day in every city and often in rural areas too.

Off their heads on this and that with a bit of a grudge too in fairness. Revenge maybe, but I doubt it in this particular case.