Saturday 12th Trainer/Jockey views

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Dan Skelton previews his weekend runners, including Ch’tibello in Cheltenham’s International Hurdle

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Saturday

It will be another big day for the stable with a runner in both the Caspian Caviar Gold Cup and the International Hurdle.
Harry will be at Cheltenham where Romain De Senam (13.50) is our runner in the big chase, a race which I thought would suit him really well. He was staying on well over 2m last time. He has run in this race in the past when he was fifth for Paul Nicholls.
I would have to say he has a little each-way chance having had this race in mind for quite a while. He can go to calmer waters if this doesn’t work out but I thought it was worth a crack.
Ch’tibello (15.00) tackles the International Hurdle again. He has been a great horse for us and this time he doesn’t carry a penalty, which he did last year when he was fourth.
Hopefully he can be the best horse in the race full stop this time. I’ve been really happy with him at home.
We start the day with Shake A Leg (12.05) in the juvenile hurdle. I would have to say he is going to improve a lot for the experience as a debutant, but he has done everything nicely at home. It’s a lot to ask him to win a juvenile hurdle round Cheltenham first time out but I do think he will run well.
Born Survivor (13.15) contests the 2m handicap chase. Harry thought he was going really well at the November meeting when he made a mistake three out.
Born Survivor has not normally liked Cheltenham but we thought it was worth another go given how well he ran there last time. He’s a bigger and stronger horse now and has been in great form at home.
We have Ashtown Lad (14.25) in the 3m novices’ hurdle. He has been ante-post favourite through the week. I really like this horse. He is going to make a very good chaser in the future.
He stays 3m well, won a good handicap last time and brings good novice form into the race as well. I would like to think he will go very close.
We have two in the mares race. Aggy With It (15.35) has been quite progressive in novices and I have had this race in mind for quite some time. I would like the ground to be as good as possible.
Molly Ollys Wishes (15.35) is our other runner. She won last time and also has looked progressive. She pulled way too hard when she was beaten at Wincanton but looked so much better at Hereford. We will have to keep an eye on the ground as there is plenty of rain forecast.




Sunday

We have three runners at Southwell. In the bumper we have Softkore (13.25), a Cokoriko gelding who is a nice horse. I’ve done loads of work with him and feel like he is a proper jumper but one who will need time to mature.
A run or two in bumpers is going to suit him. I think he has the ability to win one, though not necessarily first time out.
The Hoax (13.55) contests a maiden hurdle. His form got boosted when one of Paul Nicholls’s won under a penalty at Taunton in the week. There is a Colin Tizzard horse in this that has a slightly better rating but I think he will go very well.
Freezing Point (15.00) runs in the two and a half mile novices’ hurdle. I have been a little surprised by his immaturity. I know he is only four but he looks a bit more forward at home than he is.
We are up in trip here. I think these hurdles will suit him and he should acquit himself well but I think he is a horse that wants time.
Dan

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Cheltenham Preview: International Meeting | Saturday 12th December
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I ride in the International Hurdle at Cheltenham

I’m excited about my two rides at Cheltenham on Saturday afternoon, including in the feature Grade 2 Unibet International Hurdle.

It was great to get a couple of winners at Uttoxeter in the week, and fingers crossed we can add one more here.

Here’s my thoughts.

Saint Sonnet | 13:50 Caspian Caviar Gold Cup Handicap Chase (Grade 3)

The form from his Catterick race reads very well and he gave a good account at the Festival in March up in Grade One company. He fell on his last start in the Paddy Power here last month and this is another competitive handicap. Paul’s horses are in good form, though, and this lad is only five so he’ll still improve for all this is another tough race.

Song For Someone | 15:00 Unibet International Hurdle (Grade 2)

This lad keeps on improving with every run and won well at Ascot on his last start, beating two very good horses. He showed a good attitude when I last rode him in the Kingwell at Kempton in February and is still only five. He’s back down in trip here but would probably want a bit of rain to help his chances. The likes of Goshen and Sceau Royal make this a very competitive race but hopefully he’ll continue to progress.

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ALAN KING


December 10

We have a few confirmed mudlarks, but most of the horses at Barbury need good going or better to operate effectively, and that is certainly the case for stable-star Sceau Royal, whose appearance in Saturday’s big prize, the Unibet International Hurdle at Cheltenham, will be determined by whether we get a deluge on the New course at Prestbury Park over the next 48 hours.

Alan watched Countryfile’s weekly weather forecast last Sunday with interest, so we are all hoping that we don’t get too much of a dampener on proceedings at Cheltenham. as on Sceau Royal’s second to last year’s Champion Hurdle winner Epatante in the Fighting Fifth Hurdle at Newcastle a fortnight ago he would seem to have a terrific chance.

“I was very proud of Sceau Royal at Gosforth Park, where he was beaten by a top-class mare, having been left in front from the second flight and then continually had to avoid the loose horse,” said Alan.

He added:”The last thing we wanted was to make our own running, and Sceau Royal was very brave, though, fortunately, he did not have too hard a race as they only really stepped up the tempo from the home turn.”

Also in action at Newcastle was Son of Red, who made a winning debut over jumps in the introductory hurdle, and, he, too, heads to Cheltenham on Saturday for the Triumph Hurdle Trial.

Alan said:”Ideally, I would have liked another week, but Son of Red is a progressive young horse who also got better the more he raced on the Flat. He enjoyed jumping from day one and schooled well on Monday.”

Our third Cheltenham runner is Wynn House in the Albert Bartlett Hurdle. Alan said:”We opted out of Sandown last week as she would not have enjoyed that testing ground, but she is a progressive novice with plenty of quality about her. She has won both her races so far over hurdles, and I’ve always liked her.”

Dal Harrigle, who also schooled on Monday, runs in the novice hurdle at Doncaster, and the more the ground dries up the better his chance. Alan said:”Initially, we were slightly disappointed with his third place on his hurdling debut at Exeter last month, but the form of that race has worked out really well, with the first two both winning since.”

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13.30 Doncaster – Rarest Diamond 14/1 e/w 4 places powers and boyles

She had a wind-op through the Autumn. She had a trapped Epiglottis which was the same thing that Cue Card had back in the day. She ran a lovely comeback race at Hereford. I think she is crying out for three miles. This looks a nice opportunity and I’ll be disappointed if she doesn’t run a really big race. Trainer Joe Tizzard Being out of Milan the four furlong step up in distance should really suit this horse, same jockey Robbie Power rode it the last time finishing 4th not giving the horse a hard time time , doing his best work at the finish. It is also the horses second run after a wind operation and usually connections give the horse a run first to see did the operation work so second run tomorrow everything looks good for a nice run.

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del roy wrote: »

13.30 Doncaster – Rarest Diamond 14/1 e/w 4 places powers and boyles

She had a wind-op through the Autumn. She had a trapped Epiglottis which was the same thing that Cue Card had back in the day. She ran a lovely comeback race at Hereford. I think she is crying out for three miles. This looks a nice opportunity and I’ll be disappointed if she doesn’t run a really big race. Trainer Joe Tizzard Being out of Milan the four furlong step up in distance should really suit this horse, same jockey Robbie Power rode it the last time finishing 4th not giving the horse a hard time time , doing his best work at the finish. It is also the horses second run after a wind operation and usually connections give the horse a run first to see did the operation work so second run tomorrow everything looks good for a nice run.

6/1 now

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Cheltenham Horse Racing Trends (ITV/RacingTV)

1.15 Spreadex Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Cl2 (4yo) 2m 1/2f ITV4

10/10 – Had run in the last 6 weeks
9/10 – Had run at Cheltenham before
8/10 – Returned 15/2 or shorter
8/10 – Won between 1-3 times over fences
8/10 – Irish bred
8/10 – Aged 7 or older
7/10 – Placed favourites
7/10 – Carried 10-12 or more
6/10 – Returned 5/1 or shorter
6/10 – Ran at Cheltenham last time out
4/10 – Winning favourites (1 joint)
3/10 – Won last time out
2/10 – Trained by Jonjo O’Neill
2/10 – Trained by Paul Nicholls
Gino Trail won this race in 2017
The average winning SP in the last 10 runnings is 8/1

TQ VERDICT: Gino Trail won this race in 2017 but is 13 years-old and the fact he’s been pulled up in three of his last four races suggests age might just be catching up with him now. The Nicholls yard have a good record in the race so their Magic Saint and Capeland, who are both course winners, have to be considered, but Magic Saint does look to have his fair share of weight. Brian Ellison has a fair hand too with Forest Bihan and Nietzsche, while the consistent Ibleo is sure to have come on for his reappearance close second at Ascot. But I was impressed with the way ZANZA won last time out at Newbury and prior to that was second to the classy Allmankind at Warwick – that looks decent form now and he’s taken to go well despite a 7lb hike. The other of interest is SKY PIRATE, who ran a cracker to be 5th in the Paddy Power Gold Cup here last month. He travelled well through the race that day and might have been a lot closer had he not made some late jumping errors. The drop back in trip looks a good move and he gets in here with a featherweight of just 10-1 – Tom Scudamore rides.

1.50 – Caspian Caviar Gold Cup (Handicap Chase) (Grade 3) Cl1 2m5f ITV4

Did you know? Saturday: Cheltenham (1.50) Caspian Caviar Gold Cup – All of the last 18 winners were aged 8 or younger, while 16 of the last 18 successful horses ran in the last 5 weeks.

18/18 – Aged 8 or younger
16/18 – Ran within the last 5 weeks
15/18 – Had won over at least 2m4f (fences) before
14/18 – Placed in the top 3 last time out
13/18 - Went onto run at the Cheltenham Festival later that season (1 winner, Frodon – Ryanair Chase)
13/18 – Had raced at Cheltenham (fences) before (5 won)
13/18 – Returned 9/1 or shorter in the betting
13/18 – Had won between 2-4 times over fences before
12/18 – Aged 6 or 7 years-old
11/18 – Officially rated 142 or higher
11/18 – French bred
10/18 – Unplaced favourites
8/18 – Carried 10-13 or more
8/18 – Ran at Cheltenham last time out
8/18 – Ran in the Paddy Power (Nov) Gold Cup last time out (1 won)
6/18 – Finished in the top 5 in the Paddy Power Gold Cup last time out
5/18 – Trained by Paul Nicholls
4/18 – Won last time out
3/18 – Trained by Nicky Henderson
2/18 – Trained by David Pipe
2/18 – Ridden by Sam Twiston-Davies
2/18 – Ridden by Richard Johnson (3 wins in total)
2/18 – Went to an Irish-trained horse
1/18 – Winning favourites
The average winning SP in the last 18 runnings is 9/1

TQ VERDICT: Another decent renewal of this handicap and, as always, the Paddy Power Gold Cup, that was run here last month is often a good guide. The winner of that race was Coole Cody, so another good run from this Evan Williams runner looks on the cards, but he is 6lbs higher this time so would need to find a tad more. We’ve also for the third from that race – AL DANCER – running again and getting in here off the same mark then this Nigel Twiston-Davies grey is the shout. This 7 year-old stayed on well to take third that day and the weight pull he gets with Coole Cody swings it in his favour for me. Master Tommytucker is another seems to have got his act together – winning his last two in impressive fashion – but even though he looks a better horse in recent runs, the pick, Al Dancer, did beat him back in October, while having been a horse that’s made mistakes with his jumping in the past, it remains to be seen how it will hold up around Cheltenham and in a competitive race like this. He’s still a big player though. Midnight Shadow and Cepage are proven CD winners that command respect too and the last-named – MIDNIGHT SHADOW (e/w) – should be a lot fitter for his return run at Aintree back in October. He’s run well at the track in the past and ran well in the Marsh Novices’ Chase at the Festival (6th) last season, beaten just over 10 lengths behind Samcro which is solid form. Windsor Avenue will have it’s backers too after running the improving Imperial Aura close at Carlisle last time and with that horse winning again the form has been franked – I’m just not sure Cheltenham will be his track (first run here). Of the rest, the Paul Nicholls 5 year-old Saint Sonnet could bounce back, but does need to put a fall in the Paddy Power behind him and that would be a worry. Good Boy Bobby, another from the Twiston-Davies yard, Chatham Street Lad and Musical Slave are others that can go well.

2.25 - Albert Bartlett Novices´ Hurdle (Registered as The Bristol Novices´ Hurdle) (Grade 2) Cl1 3m ITV4

16/16 – Finished 1st or 2nd last time out
15/16 – Raced within the last 6 weeks
14/16 – Had won between 1-2 times over hurdles before
14/16 – Aged 6 or younger
13/16 – Returned 4/1 or shorter in the betting
13/16 – Winning distance 1 ¼ lengths or more
13/16 – Placed favourites
13/16 – Went on run in the Albert Bartlett (3 won) at the Cheltenham Festival
10/16 – Winning favourite (1 co, 1 joint)
10/16 – Ran at Cheltenham last time out
9/16 – Returned 2/1 or shorter in the betting
9/16 – Won last time out
9/16 – Went onto finish in the top 4 in a Cheltenham Festival race that season
9/16 – Irish bred
8/16 – Had won at Cheltenham before
8/16 – Won over 3m (hurdles) before
3/16 – Trained by Nigel Twiston-Davies
2/16 – Trained by Jonjo O’Neill
9 of the last 11 winners returned 3/1 or shorter in the betting

TQ VERDICT: Ask A Honey Bee looks the sort to go well upped in trip here to 3m, but I just feel this Fergal O’Brien runner has had a few tough races of late and they might start catching up with him. He did beat Ashtown Lad back in October though, but with that horse since improving to win his next too, then you feel the Skelton runner has learned a lot since and can reverse that form and is the only distance winner in the field. The Alan King runner – Wynn House – is another to consider after two smooth wins at Banger and Ludlow, but this looks harder. Irish raider, Make Good, should be noted in the betting, but the main call here is DANNY KIRWAN, from the Paul Nicholls yard. This 7 year-old finally got off the mark over hurdles at Ascot last time out and with that win under his belt can hopefully kick on now. Yes, the step up to 3m (from 2m4f) is a bit of an unknown, but he did it nicely last time and Nicholls clearly feels he’s worth a crack over this distance. The other of interest is the Nigel Twiston-Davies runner – TOOK THE LOT (e/w). The yard won this race 12 months ago and also in 2016 and 2014, so like to target it and they could have another leading player here. This 6 year-old will need to improve on what he’s done of late, but heads here in good order and full of confidence after two wins at Bangor. He’s another that’s stepping up in trip but that could eke out the extra improvement he probably needs to go well in this better grade.

3.00 – Unibet International Hurdle (Grade 2) Cl1 2m1f ITV4

Did you know? Saturday: Cheltenham (3.00) Unibet International Hurdle – 14 of the last 18 winners were aged 7 or younger, while ALL of the last 18 winners had raced over hurdles at Cheltenham before.

18/18 – Raced over hurdles at Cheltenham previously
16/18 – Placed in the top 3 in their latest race
16/18 – Raced within the last 6 weeks
15/18 – Won over 2m1f+ (hurdles) previously
15/18 – Won 4 or more times over hurdles previously
14/18 – Won by a horse aged 7 years-old or younger
14/18 – Ran in the Champion Hurdle later that season (5 placed)
13/18 – Favourites placed
12/18 – Favourites that won (1 joint)
12/18 – Priced 5/2 or shorter
11/18 – Won their latest race
11/18 – Won over hurdles at Cheltenham previously
9/18 – Won by a horse aged either 4 or 5 years-old
9/18 – Rated 162 or higher
7/18 – Winning distance: 4+ lengths
6/18 – Won the Greatwood Hurdle (Cheltenham) last time out
5/18 – Won by a French-bred horse
5/18 – Won by trainer Nicky Henderson
4/18 – Ridden by jockey Richard Johnson
4/18 – Trained by Nigel Twiston-Davies
3/18 – Trained by Philip Hobbs
3/18 – Ridden by jockey Sam Twiston-Davies
3/18 – Trained by Paul Nicholls
3/18 – Won by an Irish-trained horse
1/18 – Won the Champion Hurdle later that season (Rooster Booster 2002)

TQ VERDICT: A great renewal of this Grade Two! Last year’s winner – Call Me Lord – will be looking to give trainer Nicky Henderson his fourth win in as many years in the race and if he can win, he’ll become the first back-to-back winner since The New One (2013 & 2014) – Henderson also have Verdana Blue. However, Call Me Lord was firmly put in his place by SONG FOR SOMEONE at Ascot last time out (5 lengths) and I think it will be more of the same. This Tom Symonds runner travelled well that day from the front and if allowed to do the same here over this slightly shorter trip might be hard to reel in again. He’s never run at Cheltenham, but there is no reason why it won’t suit and to me he looks the value over the hot favourite Goshen. Yes, few will deny Goshen a win here after what happened to him in the Triumph Hurdle back in March (we won’t go into that!), but having run a bit flat on the level since I still think he’s got a bit to prove. On a plus, the Moore camp are saying he’s in great form so I certainly wouldn’t be putting you off his chance and he gets a handy 6lbs from the selection too! He’ll need to win this if he’s to head for the Champion Hurdle in March and with Moore saying he’s the best he’s trained then it’s hard to ignore his chance – I just feel he’s little value considering he has been a beaten favourite in his last three races. Of the rest, Ch’tibello, who was third 12 months ago, should be in the mix again but he just doesn’t win enough for me. Sceau Royal ran the current champion hurdler Epatante to around 4 lengths in the Fighting Fifth Hurdle at Newcastle last time and should have a say too. Silver Streak is another that is often in the mix in these races and was unlucky to have been carried out at Newcastle last time out, but the other pick is last year’s runner-up BALLYANDY (e/w), who rarely runs a bad race these days or at Cheltenham. He was a good second here again last month in the Greatwood Hurdle and his last three runs at the track now read 3-2-8-2. It’s a race the Twiston-Davies yard love to do well in too – winning it three times since 2013 with their classy The New One.

3.35 – Close Brothers Mares’ Handicap Hurdle Cl2 (4yo+) 2m4 1/2f ITV4

Just 5 previous runnings
All five winners returned 4/1 or shorter in the betting
2/5 - Winners carried 10-11 in weight
2/5 - Winners aged 7 or 8 years-old
2/5 – Winning favourites
Trainers, Nicky Henderson, Dan Skelton, Noel Williams (2), Anthony Honeyball have won the race in the past

TQ VERDICT: Indefatigable returns to the scene of her win in the Martin Pipe Conditional Hurdle here at the Festival and returned with a fair third at Kempton in a Listed Mares’ race – she can go well. Miah Grace and Aggy With It are others with leading claims but I was taken with the way THE WHITE MOUSE won last time out at Wincanton and I’m happy to stick with her. She showed a decent turn of foot that day to win going away by 2 lengths and that also came off the back of a 595 day break. Yes, there is a danger of the dreaded ‘bounce factor’ but she’s lightly-raced and has now won three of her five starts and looks the sort to have more to come. Nicholls hasn’t quite found the key with EGLANTINE DU SEUILL (e/w) yet but she might be foolish to totally ignore at a course she’s won at in the past, and it’s interesting she’s back out only 7 days after running down the field at Sandown. The heavy ground last week probably went against her and prior to that was only 9 lengths behind The White Mouse on his return. The drop in trip will help and is also slightly better off at the weights with that horse – she might be worth giving one more chance to!

DONCASTER: Three LIVE ITV Races From Town Moor

Doncaster Horse Racing Trends (ITV4/ATR)

2.05 – bet365 December Novices´ Chase (Grade 2) Cl1 3m ITV4

10/10 – Placed 1st or 2nd last time out
9/10 – Won between 0-2 times over fences
9/10 – Had raced in the last 6 weeks
8/10 – Priced 5/2 or shorter in the betting
7/10 – French (2) or Irish (5) bred
6/10 – Aged 5 or 6 years-old
6/10 – Placed favourites
5/10 – Winning favourites
5/10 – Won last time out
3/10 – Ran at Haydock last time out
3 of the last 7 runnings have been won by trainer Paul Nicholls

Note: from 2013 back the race was run at Lingfield Park

TQ VERDICT: A tight little race with all five runners having some sort of a say. All five head here off the back of top three finishes last time out, but it’s one of the recent winners – OFALLTHEGIANTS that I’ll be siding with. This 6 year-old got off the mark over fences at Exeter last time out over this 3m trip so we know stamina won’t be an issue. It’s also interesting that jockey Robbie Power prefers to come here, rather than possibly heading to Cheltenham for the bigger meeting on the day. With just two runs over fences there should be more in the locker. House Island is the other recent winner in the field, but that came over 2m4f so getting this extra yardage would be a big question mark. The Mighty Don is the only other proven distance winner in the field so might do best of the rest, with Hurricane Harvey and Milanford, certainly no back-numbers, making up the five runners.

2.40 – Bet365 Summit Juvenile Hurdle (Grade 2) (3yo) Cl1 2m110y ITV4

10/10 – Placed in the top 3 last time out
8/10 – Carried 11-2 or more in weight
8/10 – Favourites placed in the top 3
8/10 – Had won just once before over hurdles
8/10 – Raced in the last 5 weeks
7/10 – Irish (3) or French (4) bred
6/10 – Won last time out
4/10 – Winning favourites
2/10 – Ran at Market Rasen last time out
2/10 – Trained by John Quinn
2/10 – Trained by Nicky Henderson
Peace and Co won the race in 2014 and went onto with the Triumph Hurdle

TQ VERDICT: Cloud Thunder, Gold Desert and Mistersister are horses that look to have a future, but really this should be fought out between the Gordon Elliott-trained Glorious Zoff and the Paul Nicholls runner – MONMIRAL, who gets the nod. The main issue regarding the Elliott horse is that he was turned over at 4/11 last time out. There is a chance that race would have come a bit too soon after winning at Sligo, so the fact he’s had a break here would be a plus. But I’d prefer to stick with the Nicholls runner Monminal, who remains unbeaten. He’s another horse that’s come from France and got off the mark on his UK debut at Exeter and looks the sort to have more to come.

3.15 – bet365 Handicap Chase (4 yo+) Cl2 3m ITV4

10/11 – Had raced in the last 6 weeks
10/11 – Had won no more than 2 times over fences
9/11 – Aged 8 or younger
9/11 – Returned 9/1 or shorter in the betting
8/11 – Carried 10-10 or more in weight
8/11 – Unplaced last time out
8/11 – Irish bred
7/11 – Had won over 3m+ (fences) before
6/11 – Aged 7 years-old
6/11 – Ran at Doncaster before
2/11 – Trained by Emma Lavelle
2/11 – Winning favourites
3 of the last 6 winners were all rated 139

TQ VERDICT: The Nicky Richards yard won this race 12 months ago and have course winners – Chidswell and Looking Well in the race this year so have to be respected. Singlefarmpayment is a horse that is certainly well-handicapped on old form but does find it hard to win races. Rocky’s Treasure is another CD winner in the race but seems to have lost his way recently – maybe the return to this track will help. Paul Nicholls’ runner Give Me A Copper returns from a wind operation and a break but has gone well fresh in the past and enters the mix. Boldmere should be better for two recent runs at Chepstow and Bangor, plus seems to like it here at Doncaster – winning here last December. Trainer Emma Lavelle has a good record in the race and her MANOFTHEMOUNTAIN (e/w) tries to uphold that record for the yard. He was a nice winner at Bangor two runs ago but does need to bounce back from a poor run at Cheltenham last time out in the decent race behind Frodon. He’s had a nice break since that run (49 days) and has been a horse in the past that’s gone well off a break, while on this flatter track he’s taken to bounce back. Of the rest, Jersey Bean will also be popular after winning at Newton Abbot and Exeter recently, but a 10lb hike for the last of those wins makes life a lot harder here and is also up in class.

Coneygree

CHLT

1.15 Zanza
1.50 Cepage
2.25 Ask A Honey Bee
3.00 Goshen on the snaff (Just to make the CH market/talk a bit interesting, don't actually rate him too highly)
3.35 Aggy With It

FH
12.00 Cratloe
1.37 Castlehume Gold
2.12 Chosen Mate

The Mig

Market spoke there with the Henderson pair

supremenovice

After yesterdays great day, the same trainer of Some Neck (John McConnell) has another horse running today at Cheltenham - Make Good in the 1425.
He had an across the card double yesterday with Kudbegood at Dundalk and word is there's a few trebles going onto this thing (I'm not one of them sadly).

Anniepowaa

another dent in the supreme form

The Mig

Some win for Mick Winters

Coneygree

Mother of Jesus what a peach

Francie Barrett

Winters did actually say during the week that his horse was some price. Delighted for him.

The Mig

Hahahaha his celebration

carq

Supremenovice- missed yesterdays tip .

You deserve some kind of hall of fame award

Fair play

The Mig

Xmas money for the stable. Fair play

supremenovice

supremenovice wrote: »

After yesterdays great day, the same trainer of Some Neck (John McConnell) has another horse running today at Cheltenham - Make Good in the 1425.
He had an across the card double yesterday with Kudbegood at Dundalk and word is there's a few trebles going onto this thing (I'm not one of them sadly).

Thats some treble

Anniepowaa

john mcconnell bending the english over in their back yards haha

supremenovice

Wow, what a 24hrs. I'm delighted for everyone who got on that.Any long time backers would know who get word of a tip, most of them get stuffed. Think I'll retire now

Coneygree

Elixir De Nutz beaten even money, Ofalltheginjoints dead last 5/4. Tizzard can go f*ck himself, must be laying all his horses on Betfair. Other than my two antepost bets on TBB and LIT and a token bet on Thistlecrack with loose change, I won't be backing a Tizzard horse for a long long time.

Anniepowaa

something very wrong with goshen

Francie Barrett

Goshen off the bridle a long way out there.

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Coneygree wrote: »

Elixir De Nutz beaten even money, Ofalltheginjoints dead last 5/4. Tizzard can go f*ck himself, must be laying all his horses on Betfair. Other than my two antepost bets on TBB and LIT and a token bet on Thistlecrack with loose change, I won't be backing a Tizzard horse for a long long time.

Losing his daughter/assistant to cancer has had a huge effect and there's clearly something amiss in the yard. But ya he's laying his horses on betfair, you absolute moron.

Anniepowaa

lemush wrote: »

Losing his daughter/assistant to cancer has had a huge effect and there's clearly something amiss in the yard. But ya he's laying his horses on betfair, you absolute moron.

rubbish excuse everyone goes true tragedy in their life , if he isnt putting the required effort into his horses while being paid handsomely give them to someone who will

del roy

Anniepowaa wrote: »

rubbish excuse everyone goes true tragedy in their life , if he isnt putting the required effort into his horses while being paid handsomely give them to someone who will

A bit harsh there Annie, its only horse racing, the man lost his daughter ffs.

Anniepowaa

del roy wrote: »

A bit harsh there Annie, its only horse racing, the man lost his daughter ffs.

In may and they have been running poorly long before that

Coneygree

Definitely something not right with the horse there, that was worse than his flat runs.

Coneygree

lemush wrote: »

Losing his daughter/assistant to cancer has had a huge effect and there's clearly something amiss in the yard. But ya he's laying his horses on betfair, you absolute moron.

The laying comment was partly in jest, but Tizzard has been off form for the bones of 2 years now.

Anniepowaa

Buveur D’Air probably the ch winner if getting there amazingly

akelly02

Anniepowaa wrote: »

Buveur D’Air probably the ch winner if getting there amazingly

Hahaha you are some joker.

Nothing is giving epatante 7lbs.

akelly02

Can all members of the Goshen hype train, namely head man pogue Eile , please disembark now.

Its over lads , was a good run ye got while he was hiding away in Moores yard

akelly02

Can all members of the Goshen hype train, namely head man pogue Eile , please disembark now.

Its over lads , was a good run ye got while he was hiding away in Moores yard

Anniepowaa

akelly02 wrote: »

Hahaha you are some joker.

Nothing is giving epatante 7lbs.

when you start putting up winners come back to me

Kauto

John McConnell obviously has access to the same feed as Shark at the moment!!

akelly02

Anniepowaa wrote: »

when you start putting up winners come back to me

Saying Buvair dair is the one to beat in the champion is utter horse sh1t

IAMAMORON

They must fancy Raya Time for a big handicap at some stage. Not nice to see young fellas getting hefty bans, if they don't do what they are told they won't get the leg up again, tough game.

Jockey Daniel Holden received a 10-day suspension for his ride on the Henry De Bromhead trained third-placed Raya Time in the beginners chase at Fairyhouse today.

The gelding finished third under a hands and heels ride, finishing 13 lengths behind the runner-up, with the Stewards later noting the trainer's explanation and suspending the jockey under Rule 212(A), which covers running and riding offences.

The IHRB report reads as follows:

The Stewards enquired into the running and riding of Raya Time (FR), ridden by D.P. Holden, and trained by Henry de Bromhead. Evidence was heard from the rider and trainer concerned. D.P. Holden, stated that he was instructed to jump off and get his mount settled, get him jumping, switched off and get him home running on in the end.

He reviewed the video in the presence of the Stewards and showed his mount to be more prominent than expected and to have jumped well throughout for a novice. He added that he expected his mount to get tired on ground that did not suit and held him together to get him to finish. Henry de Bromhead, confirmed the instructions and added that his charge had taken a fall at Killarney on the 5th October. He further added that the focus today was to get his charge settled, give him a chance and let him creep into the race and ensure that he ran as well as possible.

He informed the Stewards that his charge wore a hood as he can be very keen. In his opinion on review of the video of the race he felt that his rider could have done more in the latter stages of the race but was also cognisant that he had instructed the rider to get around and to get his best position. The Stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer who stated that Raya Time (FR) was post race normal.

Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the evidence, the Stewards noted the trainers explanation. They were, however, satisfied that D.P. Holden was in breach of Rule 212(A)(2) by riding his horse in such a way that the horse was not seen to have been the subject of a genuine attempt to obtain from the horse timely, real and substantial efforts to achieve his best possible place.

Having taken his good previous record into consideration, the Stewards suspended D.P. Holden for 10 racedays and ordered that he forfeit his riding fee.

I seen that horse in the flesh down in Clonmel last year, made the running and collared late by Annamix no less. Keep an eye on him, although the cat is out of the bag now.

SonOfGoat

6.45 Wolverhampton. The fav - Kath's Toyboy won't be beat. Short enough @ around 8/11 but the winnings will pick up a few bits for Xmas.

Kauto

IAMAMORON wrote: »

They must fancy Raya Time for a big handicap at some stage. Not nice to see young fellas getting hefty bans, if they don't do what they are told they won't get the leg up again, tough game.

Jockey Daniel Holden received a 10-day suspension for his ride on the Henry De Bromhead trained third-placed Raya Time in the beginners chase at Fairyhouse today.

The gelding finished third under a hands and heels ride, finishing 13 lengths behind the runner-up, with the Stewards later noting the trainer's explanation and suspending the jockey under Rule 212(A), which covers running and riding offences.

The IHRB report reads as follows:

The Stewards enquired into the running and riding of Raya Time (FR), ridden by D.P. Holden, and trained by Henry de Bromhead. Evidence was heard from the rider and trainer concerned. D.P. Holden, stated that he was instructed to jump off and get his mount settled, get him jumping, switched off and get him home running on in the end.

He reviewed the video in the presence of the Stewards and showed his mount to be more prominent than expected and to have jumped well throughout for a novice. He added that he expected his mount to get tired on ground that did not suit and held him together to get him to finish. Henry de Bromhead, confirmed the instructions and added that his charge had taken a fall at Killarney on the 5th October. He further added that the focus today was to get his charge settled, give him a chance and let him creep into the race and ensure that he ran as well as possible.

He informed the Stewards that his charge wore a hood as he can be very keen. In his opinion on review of the video of the race he felt that his rider could have done more in the latter stages of the race but was also cognisant that he had instructed the rider to get around and to get his best position. The Stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer who stated that Raya Time (FR) was post race normal.

Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the evidence, the Stewards noted the trainers explanation. They were, however, satisfied that D.P. Holden was in breach of Rule 212(A)(2) by riding his horse in such a way that the horse was not seen to have been the subject of a genuine attempt to obtain from the horse timely, real and substantial efforts to achieve his best possible place.

Having taken his good previous record into consideration, the Stewards suspended D.P. Holden for 10 racedays and ordered that he forfeit his riding fee.

I seen that horse in the flesh down in Clonmel last year, made the running and collared late by Annamix no less. Keep an eye on him, although the cat is out of the bag now.

Of all the stables in Ireland, HBD is the least likely to stop one. This fella is a soft free going yoke and not up to this class. Trying to get him to settle today instead of the usual ****e he did last year of going out in front and not finishing his races. Nothing to see here. Owner is also not a punter.

If you want to see a stopping job, have a look at On You Go in the race before. He has got the JP jumping disease whereby they all jump the same no matter who the trainer is!!!

Cherry_Cola

SonOfGoat wrote: »

6.45 Wolverhampton. The fav - Kath's Toyboy won't be beat. Short enough @ around 8/11 but the winnings will pick up a few bits for Xmas.

Xmas in shambles.

Brock Turnpike

supremenovice wrote: »

Wow, what a 24hrs. I'm delighted for everyone who got on that.Any long time backers would know who get word of a tip, most of them get stuffed. Think I'll retire now

Fair play. Amazing tipping.

carq

Kauto wrote: »

Of all the stables in Ireland, HBD is the least likely to stop one. This fella is a soft free going yoke and not up to this class. Trying to get him to settle today instead of the usual ****e he did last year of going out in front and not finishing his races. Nothing to see here. Owner is also not a punter.

If you want to see a stopping job, have a look at On You Go in the race before. He has got the JP jumping disease whereby they all jump the same no matter who the trainer is!!!

Have to agree on HDB.
Class act.
Up the deise!

IAMAMORON

Kauto wrote: »

Of all the stables in Ireland, HBD is the least likely to stop one. This fella is a soft free going yoke and not up to this class. Trying to get him to settle today instead of the usual ****e he did last year of going out in front and not finishing his races. Nothing to see here. Owner is also not a punter.

If you want to see a stopping job, have a look at On You Go in the race before. He has got the JP jumping disease whereby they all jump the same no matter who the trainer is!!!

carq wrote: »

Have to agree on HDB.
Class act.
Up the deise!

I don't think anyone is saying De Bromhead is a crook or cheating. But somebody told that jockey to take it handy on Raya Time, unless the stewards were feeling trigger happy and wanted to get some kicks and beatings in before Christmas? 10 days is 10 days they can't be handing out bans willy nilly either.

I don't buy the response about owners not being punters either. All that happens then is that the stable sees dollar signs insofar as they can target the nag as they like.

Kauto

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I don't think anyone is saying De Bromhead is a crook or cheating. But somebody told that jockey to take it handy on Raya Time, unless the stewards were feeling trigger happy and wanted to get some kicks and beatings in before Christmas? 10 days is 10 days they can't be handing out bans willy nilly either.

I don't buy the response about owners not being punters either. All that happens then is that the stable sees dollar signs insofar as they can target the nag as they like.

The horse is an utter pig. Out in front he stops. Hold him up and try and settle him he runs on. From your posts you have very little appreciation of the nuances of racing.
He wouldn't have gone near winning yesterday no matter what ride he got. He is not handicap plot what so ever. Couldn't win a handicap hurdle off mid 120's over hurdles and won't be much better over fences.

IAMAMORON

Kauto wrote: »

The horse is an utter pig. Out in front he stops. Hold him up and try and settle him he runs on. From your posts you have very little appreciation of the nuances of racing.
He wouldn't have gone near winning yesterday no matter what ride he got. He is not handicap plot what so ever. Couldn't win a handicap hurdle off mid 120's over hurdles and won't be much better over fences.

I mightn't have a clue... but the stewards seem to think something is up.

There is nothing nuanced about a 10 day ban and losing your riding fee.

Pogue eile

akelly02 wrote: »

Can all members of the Goshen hype train, namely head man pogue Eile , please disembark now.

Its over lads , was a good run ye got while he was hiding away in Moores yard

Apologies my good man, I haven't been on since with work and stuff.

Yeah it certianly looks like I am going to have to admit defeat on this one, Ii have no idea what they have done to this horse, but I am still going to blame the Moore's!

I can't believe that they have entered him for the Christmas Hurdle, poor lunacy considering his age, his last three runs, the heart issue. Their greed and lack of patience it would appear know no bounds.

gazza1

Looking forward to seeing how Micro Manage performs. My AP Supreme bet at 25's

Pogue eile

Pogue eile wrote: »

Apologies my good man, I haven't been on since with work and stuff.

Yeah it certianly looks like I am going to have to admit defeat on this one, Ii have no idea what they have done to this horse, but I am still going to blame the Moore's!

I can't believe that they have entered him for the Christmas Hurdle, poor lunacy considering his age, his last three runs, the heart issue. Their greed and lack of patience it would appear know no bounds.

Non Runner now, I hope common sense prevails and they give the horse a proper break, I doubt it somehow though

del roy

gazza1 wrote: »

Looking forward to seeing how Micro Manage performs. My AP Supreme bet at 25's

Micro Manage an exciting recruit from the Flat
A lack of depth within the two-mile hurdle division has been an issue for a while - this will be the fifth time in the last seven renewals that there has been a long odds-on favourite in the Christmas Hurdle.
One factor believed to be behind the dearth of talent is a reduction in the number of quality recruits arriving from the Flat, with middle-distance performers once earmarked as likely hurdlers now fetching huge sums to race abroad.
It is, therefore, pleasing to see Micro Manage set to make his debut over hurdles in the opener at Leopardstown (12:00) on Boxing Day. A spell over hurdles has presumably always been the plan for Micro Manage, who has been with Willie Mullins from the outset, but he did reach a smart level on the Flat and even contested the Irish St Leger last time having finished an eye-catching third in a Group 3 on his previous outing. It's rare to see a horse of his calibre going hurdling nowadays - he achieved a Timeform rating of 112 after only three starts - so it will be fascinating to see how he fares on Saturday.

akelly02

Pogue eile wrote: »

Non Runner now, I hope common sense prevails and they give the horse a proper break, I doubt it somehow though

I probably came across a bit dickish there,sorry about that .

I shouldn't be happy horses lose ,even if I have a life changing treble lately