Floyd Mayweather to fight YouTuber Logan Paul in exhibition fight on February 20

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How do you feel about this fight going ahead?

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12153888/floyd-mayweather-to-fight-youtuber-logan-paul-in-exhibition-fight-on-february-20

nacho libre

I can't wait. This is a fight for the ages. Floyd's 0 is under serious threat here.
Whatever they are charging for this fight will be well worth it to see a piece of history being made.

LOL!

Mockery.

walshb

Guys

Floyd looked like sh1t v Conor, and even worse vs that Japanese lad....

That is 2-3-4 years ago now...

Logan Paul is not a proper pro boxer...

I still think Floyd, if he takes a legit fight here, will look sh1t....

walshb

walshb wrote: »

Guys

Floyd looked like sh1t v Conor, and even worse vs that Japanese lad....

That is 2-3-4 years ago now...

Not sure we watched the same fight. He made a fool of Conor, and didn't he stop the Japanese lad in under 3 minutes. I didnt see that fight.


And he's now taking on a YouTuber. He won't even need to lace up a second glove.

walshb

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure we watched the same fight. He made a fool of Conor, and didn't he stop the Japanese lad in under 3 minutes. I didnt see that fight.


And he's now taking on a YouTuber. He won't even need to lace up a second glove.

You obviously have not seen the best of Floyd.

He was dreadful vs Conor, and only took over when Conor became tired...

I thought he looked very disjointed and awkward and novice like vs the wee small Japanese lad...

Logan Paul is not a pro boxers, but he is big and awkward...

Guarantee you that Floyd will look poor and will struggle...

Forget the win/loss/draw here.....he will look sh1t...

siblers

How is fighting that gob****e in an exhibition match 'coming out of retirement'?

Bit like saying ex footballers come out of retirement when they play in a charity match

JJayoo

This guy is 6'2 and 90+ kg, what's fluid 5'7 .

The size difference will be interesting for Flyod to figure out, he won't be able to clinch, and absorbing punches from someone soooo much bigger at 43 years old won't be fun.

walshb

JJayoo wrote: »

This guy is 6'2 and 90+ kg, what's fluid 5'7 .

The size difference will be interesting for Flyod to figure out, he won't be able to clinch, and absorbing punches from someone soooo much bigger at 43 years old won't be fun.

Knowing Mayweather he’ll boil the lad down to 147 lbs..

If this event goes ahead, Mayweather will look Sh1t..

This Paul lad is a white collar novice, but his size, weight, reach and awkwardness will cause Floyd a lot of issues. Floyd is not a man to go in and do any type killer job. He is so ridiculously safety first, that the match will see him look dreadful here..

You can bet both sides will be working behind the scenes to choreograph this as best they can.

If not, expect Floyd to duck, dive and run for the night until Paul fades and drops from exhaustion..

SHOVELLER

It's a joke and makes a complete mockery of the sport. I genuinely hope Mayweather sparks him in the first round but that is unrealistic for many obvious reasons.

I remember Jimmy Glenn getting angry when punters asked him about the Mayweather McGregor fight.

simongurnick

SHOVELLER wrote: »

It's a joke and makes a complete mockery of the sport. I genuinely hope Mayweather sparks him in the first round but that is unrealistic for many obvious reasons.

I remember Jimmy Glenn getting angry when punters asked him about the Mayweather McGregor fight.

Yes, it's a freakshow and a circus. It's more "entertainment" than boxing. But does it help the sport or hurt the sport?

Help, from the perspective of putting new eyes on the sport? Garnering some new fans? Putting boxing in the headlines.

I think the one thing that came out of the Nate Robinson/Jake Paul farce, was that boxing isn't something you just "try out", despite the fact neither of them is a pro boxer.

Or on the other, is this a disgrace and kick in the face to all the pro's busting their holes out there to eek out a living? This dude saunters up and makes millions out of his fame and Floyd, a legend of the sport, is more than happy to cash in.

endacl

Will Logan Paul get punched in the face a lot?

That'd be worth the price of admission...

walshb

endacl wrote: »

Will Logan Paul get punched in the face a lot?

That'd be worth the price of admission...

Against safety first scared ****less to get hit Mayweather, no!

JJayoo

If this guy doesn't gas, and doesn't chase Flyod missing his head, and just plods along and lands heavy body shots using his 30kg+ bodyweight, does he win.

For **** sake, a bevvied Paddy Barnes would put Logan Paul away.

walshb

walshb wrote: »

Against safety first scared ****less to get hit Mayweather, no!

You really need to get your dislike of Mayweather off your chest. Let it all out in one long post.

JJayoo

JJayoo wrote: »

If this guy doesn't gas, and doesn't chase Flyod missing his head, and just plods along and lands heavy body shots using his 30kg+ bodyweight, does he win.

He'd have as much chance of winning as McGregor has when watching a replay of his match against Mayweather.

walshb

Deleted User wrote: »

You really need to get your dislike of Mayweather off your chest. Let it all out in one long post.

Nothing to do with a dislike..

One of the great great boxers the past 30-40 years..

Wait for the match...you may just get what I am saying

Or, go watch his match vs the novice, McGregor...

Mayweather fights ridiculously safety first....

He did it against the smaller Manny Pacquiao as well...

Against Paul, assuming both in to win and no funny games, expect Floyd to be very safety conscious....the man is retired, older now, and not at all going to be going in there with any real spiteful offence...

I am not saying Floyd does not win here.....I am saying he will look sh1t in doing so, against a novice.....

walshb

Deleted User wrote: »

For **** sake, a bevvied Paddy Barnes would put Logan Paul away.

No, he would not.....

Paul is not a pro boxer....

But that doesn't mean he can't throw punches and can't hurt tiny men like a Barnes, if he lands, which he absolutely could....

Paddy is a small man who has very little power for his size.....

So, next to no chance he puts Paul away....

walshb

walshb wrote: »

No, he would not.....

Paul is not a pro boxer....

But that doesn't mean he can't throw punches and can't hurt tiny men like a Barnes, if he lands, which he absolutely could....

Paddy is a small man who has very little power for his size.....

So, next to no chance he puts Paul away....

Stop talking out your arse.

walshb

Deleted User wrote: »

Stop talking out your arse.

Ok, so Paddy Barnes knocks Paul out with ease, is this what you are saying?

Yes, please, stop talking out of your arse!!!

Paddy, all 5 feet 4 and 115 lbs of him.......

Fall_Guy

walshb wrote: »

Nothing to do with a dislike..

On of the great great boxers the past 30-40 years..

Wait for the match...you may just get what I am saying

Or, go watch his match vs the novice, McGregor...

Mayweather fights ridiculously safety first....

He did it against the smaller Manny Pacquiao as well...

Against Paul, assuming both in to win and no funny games, expect Floyd to be very safety conscious....the man is retired, older now, and not at all going to be going in there with any real spiteful offence...

I am not saying Floyd does not win here.....I am saying he will look sh1t in doing so, against a novice.....

I don't know, I know the YouTuber is a fairly big man so it's not a completely fair comparison, but Mayweather was very happy to just go out and blast out the kickboxer he fought in Japan a gear or two ago, who is a very high level striker (but certainly no boxer).

I'd like to think the skill deficit will be so great that the extra size won't prove reason enough for Floyd to employ a cautious approach.

sbsquarepants

walshb wrote: »

I am not saying Floyd does not win here.....I am saying he will look sh1t in doing so, against a novice.....

Talk about cheapening your legacy - it's embarrassing at this stage, i'd love to see one of these money grabs go tits up and put a knockout on his record. It's just pure unadulterated greed.

Fall_Guy

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Talk about cheapening your legacy - it's embarrassing at this stage, i'd love to see one of these money grabs go tits up and put a knockout on his record. It's just pure unadulterated greed.

Who is it embarrassing for? And why would it tarnish his legacy in any way?

walshb

Fall_Guy wrote: »

I don't know, I know the YouTuber is a fairly big man so it's not a completely fair comparison, but Mayweather was very happy to just go out and blast out the kickboxer he fought in Japan a gear or two ago, who is a very high level striker (but certainly no boxer).

I'd like to think the skill deficit will be so great that the extra size won't prove reason enough for Floyd to employ a cautious approach.

Conor was nowhere near pro boxer level, albeit an MMA fighter, and Floyd was very cautious and looked very poor....took 10 rds to end it....

And the nonsense that he carried Conor doesn't add up.

He simply was unwilling to get hit, so he played it very safe

He will do the same here against Paul, who is clearly bigger than Conor..

A pro boxer with real killer instinct who is not afraid to mix it up would take Paul out very quickly

Floyd is not this....

ElJeffe

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure we watched the same fight. He made a fool of Conor, and didn't he stop the Japanese lad in under 3 minutes. I didnt see that fight.


And he's now taking on a YouTuber. He won't even need to lace up a second glove.

He only beat McGregor because like usual McG was gassed after a while. He looked rubbish until then against a guy that doesn't even box.

As for this "fight" i think it's another nail in boxings coffin.

Fall_Guy

walshb wrote: »

Conor was nowhere near pro boxer level, albeit an MMA fighter, and Floyd was very cautious and looked very poor....took 10 rds to end it....

And the nonsense that he carried Conor doesn't add up.

He simply was unwilling to get hit, so he played it very safe

He will do the same here against Paul, who is clearly bigger than Conor..

A pro boxer with real killer instinct who is not afraid to mix it up would take Paul out very quickly

Floyd is not this....

Yeah, maybe. Big difference between McGregor and someone who appears to have started boxing in the last year or two though.

You may well be right, but I'll live in hope!

walshb

Fall_Guy wrote: »

Yeah, maybe. Big difference between McGregor and someone who appears to have started boxing in the last year or two though.

You may well be right, but I'll live in hope!

Whatever differences, mark my words....Floyd will look desperate and will struggle here...

And people need to simply call this as a fight...forget names and personalities...

Watch it and analyze the action....

Put any active pro who can throw punches and is half decent, and Paul is beaten easily...

Floyd is not going to take any risks here.......not at this stage of his life....and his lack of taking offensive risks is why he will struggle and look desperate against the white collar novice...

Fall_Guy

walshb wrote: »

Whatever differences, mark my words....Floyd will look desperate and will struggle here...

And people need to simply call this as a fight...forget names and personalities...

Watch it and analyze the action....

Put any active pro who can throw punches and is half decent, and Paul is beaten easily...

Floyd is not going to take any risks here.......not at this stage of his life....and his lack of taking offensive risks is why he will struggle and look desperate against the white collar novice...

As I said, you could be right, but we do have evidence to suggest he may do differently. Yes, Tenshin was a much smaller opponent but you can see from his movement that he's a high level fighter. And Floyd was very happy to walk him down and unload power punches.

Yes, it's a different ball game against a much bigger man in Paul, but as you said, he's white collar level novice whereas Tenshin a high level striker.

I've seen enough to suggest Mayweather may well just go in and look to put him away in a round. I've also seen enough to know Mayweather may be happy to sit back and potshot from distance regardless of the lack of real danger posed by a novice boxer. Time will tell.

walshb

The Japanese lad posed no power risk at all...was too small and too weak....that is why Flyod had no issues walking him down and not caring about his power...

Paul will pose size issues and awkwardness issues and power issues.

All valid issues, that of course, Floyd could deal with....but they will still need to be dealt with....and for me, Floyd won't take any risks dealing with them with any real zeal.....

walshb

Fall_Guy wrote: »

I've seen enough to suggest Mayweather may well just go in and look to put him away in a round.

Where have you seen this?

I can't at all see it....

Do you mean that Paul is so bad, or that Floyd showed that he can?

When did Floyd ever go out and really go for broke for a stoppage early?

All his recent fights the past few years has seen him be cautious, defensive, and safety conscious......

The only comparable fight to Paul, is Conor.....and Floyd was not at all showing that he could take Conor in a round...

Fall_Guy

walshb wrote: »

Where have you seen this?

I can't at all see it....

Do you mean that Paul is so bad, or that Floyd showed that he can?

When did Floyd ever go out and really go for broke for a stoppage early?

All his recent fights the past few years has seen him be cautious, defensive, and safety conscious......

The only comparable fight to Paul, is Conor.....and Floyd was not at all showing that he could take Conor in a round...

McGregor had size AND fighting ability (punch mechanics to deliver hurtful shots and conditioning weren't there, but fighting ability was evident).

I'd have the Tenshin fight as being a closer comparison than the mcgregor one,while conceding the very big size difference is a big factor, hence my doubt as to what approach Mayweather will take.

Tenshin could fight (not an excellent boxer but could move, time shots, counter etc) but was undersized and out matched. Paul has size but next to no boxing ability (far inferior to his brother on what we have seen of them both so far).

walshb

Fall_Guy wrote: »

McGregor had size AND fighting ability (punch mechanics to deliver hurtful shots and conditioning weren't there, but fighting ability was evident).

I'd have the Tenshin fight as being a closer comparison than the mcgregor one,while conceding the very big size difference is a big factor, hence my doubt as to what approach Mayweather will take.

Tenshin could fight (not an excellent boxer but could move, time shots, counter etc) but was undersized and out matched. Paul has size but next to no boxing ability (far inferior to his brother on what we have seen of them both so far).

Ok,

But that is one example of Floyd walking down a smaller and weaker man with no power at all to trouble him...is this the evidence you are using?

I can't see this as remotely comparable to Logan Paul....Paul is far bigger a man....

Floyd has not come out and went for a KO in many a fight now....

I cannot recall it recently.....

That is not to say that Floyd won't.....he could catch Paul with a clean and beautiful shot to do real damage.....

I just think this is unlikely...

Fall_Guy

walshb wrote: »

Ok,

But that is one example of Floyd walking down a smaller and weaker man with no power at all to trouble him...is this the evidence you are using?

I can't see this as remotely comparable to Logan Paul....Paul is far bigger a man....

Floyd has not come out and went for a KO in many a fight now....

I cannot recall it recently.....

That is not to say that Floyd won't.....he could catch Paul with a clean and beautiful shot to do real damage.....

I just think this is unlikely...

Well we do have a small sample from which to draw on, I'm certainly not going to give a novice the respect to be comparing Floyd's fight strategy against the best fighters in the world throughout his pro career to how he may approach a fight against a complete beginner.

We have 2 fights that some comparison can be drawn to, one where he took a safety first approach and one where he blitzed the opponent.

Hence my lack of certainty as to how he will approach this one. Neither approach would surprise me, but I'll certainly be hoping he fights with the level of aggression that the risk merits.

walshb

Fall_Guy wrote: »

Well we do have a small sample from which to draw on, I'm certainly not going to give a novice the respect to be comparing Floyd's fight strategy against the best fighters in the world throughout his pro career to how he may approach a fight against a complete beginner.

We have 2 fights that some comparison can be drawn to, one where he took a safety first approach and one where he blitzed the opponent.

Hence my lack of certainty as to how he will approach this one. Neither approach would surprise me, but I'll certainly be hoping he fights with the level of aggression that the risk merits.

I get this

And I know the examples are Floyd against real pros vs. Floyd against novices

So far against white collar type novices he is 0-1 as regards blitzing....He was very safety first vs. Conor

I really believe we will see the same against the bigger and heavier and more awkward Logan Paul...

Floyd just does not like, and never really has liked, mixing it in a real aggressive type manner.......unless he knows fully that the foe is of no danger.

Add in now that he is 41-42, and not the same man/boxer as he was years ago....

Anniepowaa

logal paul is a giant compared to mayweather what even is this ****

JimmyVik

Should be better than both those McKenna brothers the other night anyway.
One of them was like a donkey fighting a donkey with only 1 leg. The fight got stopped because the Donkey with one leg looked like he might embarrass the golden donkey if it continued.
The other was fighting a punch bag that had been clearly told not to throw a punch.
Sure anyone could take their time and pick their punches fighting that.
As Bruce Lee said. "Boards dont hit back"
And then at the end little brother says big brother is ready for a world title fight.
We were in knots laughing the whole way through.

So now to Floyd and whatsisname from youtube. The bar is low now.

sbsquarepants

Fall_Guy wrote: »

Who is it embarrassing for? And why would it tarnish his legacy in any way?

You don't think fighting randomers off youtube is beneath someone like Mayweathers stature?



I certainly do - this bullshít is only a small step up from our ethnic brethrens carpark shenanigans.

I'd have zero interest in watching it anyway and anyone who'd actually pay to watch it needs their head examined!

Fall_Guy

sbsquarepants wrote: »

You don't think fighting randomers off youtube is beneath someone like Mayweathers stature?



I certainly do - this bullshít is only a small step up from our ethnic brethrens carpark shenanigans.

I'd have zero interest in watching it anyway and anyone who'd actually pay to watch it needs their head examined!

Agree on the part about paying for it, I definitely think I'd have an element of embarrassment if I paid for it

But with regards it being "beneath" Floyd, I don't think anything he does at this point in his career should diminish his legacy, in the same way I don't think any great fighter who fights on too long and loses to fighters who wouldn't have laid a glove on them in their prime should tarnish their legacy.

In fact, if anything I'm a lot happier to see an all time great earning megabucks for low risk exhibitions than seeing them get bashed around by prospects for peanuts.

In a game where dignity is a rare commodity for the elder statesmen, I'd take Floyd's route over the well trodden path of many an aging fighter any day.

sbsquarepants

Fall_Guy wrote: »

In fact, if anything I'm a lot happier to see an all time great earning megabucks for low risk exhibitions than seeing them get bashed around by prospects for peanuts.

In a game where dignity is a rare commodity for the elder statesmen, I'd take Floyd's route over the well trodden path of many an aging fighter any day.

I actually hadn't thought of it that way, you do have a good point!


I suppose you're right, he won the fights he won regardless, and i actually think his reputation for dodging the hard fights is debatable at least, but I don't think there's any danger of him getting hurt here and at this stage of the game why should he take that risk, especially considering it's ended badly for so many others before him.



In reality, i'm probably just jealous. I'll fight that Paul fúcker, no problem:D

JJayoo

This will be an interesting fight Logan Paul was a very good wrestler in high school and is very athletic, huge height and weight difference.

Flyod won't be able to just block shots on his arms/gloves and shoulder roll.

Flyod won't be able to clinch up. He's not gonna walk this guy down unless he gets gassed, and Flyod will never have sparred hard against a guy with this size difference.

The size difference just makes it interesting plus the betting will be insane, worth a tenner

walshb

It’s an arranged exhibition..

Expect all details to be in Mayweather’s favor..

sbsquarepants

JJayoo wrote: »

The size difference just makes it interesting plus the betting will be insane, worth a tenner

I don't think so. I think Pauls only real hope would be to catch him with some wild haymaker and although Mayweather is getting on in years he's always been about the best at avoiding being hit. Paul may be big, but size only really becomes an advantage when all else is equal, all else is far from equal here. I'm a good 4 - 5 stone heavier and 5 - 6 inches taller than Mayweather - he'd quite possibly kill me without breaking a sweat!

This is a money grab and nothing more. Mayweather certainly likes his dollars. This is the boxing equivalent of panto!

walshb

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I don't think so. I think Pauls only real hope would be to catch him with some wild haymaker and although Mayweather is getting on in years he's always been about the best at avoiding being hit. Paul may be big, but size only really becomes an advantage when all else is equal, all else is far from equal here. I'm a good 4 - 5 stone heavier and 5 - 6 inches taller than Mayweather - he'd quite possibly kill me without breaking a sweat!

This is a money grab and nothing more. Mayweather certainly likes his dollars. This is the boxing equivalent of panto!

Paul, at least will be training and will have a decent cardio engine....this is key for him here

He is not a boxer, so won't have the real experienced skills to compete...

But his youth, size, overall awkwardness, and I assume decent fitness will mean that Floyd will very unlikely be able to just go in and dominate here...

A Canelo or some other type boxer would be able to blast Paul out quite quickly...

A 42 year old career defensive fighter like Floyd, who is now past his best days, won't be doing anything to put him in the firing line too much...

Anyway, as I said.....this will be choreographed and arranged to suit Floyd...or make it as comfy as possible for him...

chopperbyrne

Eh I think you're all forgetting that Floyd once knocked out the Big Show who is 7ft and 400lbs.

The man clearly punches harder than Tyson!

This is a farce, and Jake calling out Conor is another farce.

JJayoo

Will depend on weight

Buddy Bubs

A friend and rugby team mate, big guy, 15 stone or so and fit, also did a bit of amateur boxing and was quite decent at it and had a good record. He set up a white collar fundraiser for club and was miles ahead of us skillwise so they got a guy from boxing club to fight him on the night. He boxed at Olympic level for Bulgaria I believe it was.

He was much smaller by 30kgs or more but the bigger lad couldn't get a shot in at all. Ridiculous skill level difference.

My friend might not have been as good as Logan Paul but the bulgarian was certainly no Mayweather. This is a circus. A show. A YouTube event. Not a sporting contest.

JimmyVik

I really cant believe anyone is actually contemplating this being anything but a breeze for Mayweather.
Mayweather will have more trouble trying to keep Logan in the fight for a few rounds so the crowd doesnt start booing at the lack of a fight.

walshb

JimmyVik wrote: »

I really cant believe anyone is actually contemplating this being anything but a breeze for Mayweather.
Mayweather will have more trouble trying to keep Logan in the fight for a few rounds so the crowd doesnt start booing at the lack of a fight.

Visually it won't be a breeze

Now, folks can claim that Floyd was messing or carrying, if this is the case, but wait for it.....Floyd will not look at all clearly dominant here....

Floyd is 42....the other lad is far younger, far bigger, far heavier

Of course, we know he is not a pro boxer....but for this "exhibition" against a man like Floyd (physical traits and age traits and safety first traits), expect Floyd to struggle and look desperately ineffective for large parts of it...

3 years ago he looked desperately ineffective against a woeful novice, McGregor...

JimmyVik

walshb wrote: »

Visually it won't be a breeze

Now, folks can claim that Floyd was messing or carrying, if this is the case, but wait for it.....Floyd will not look at all clearly dominant here....

Floyd is 42....the other lad is far younger, far bigger, far heavier

Of course, we know he is not a pro boxer....but for this "exhibition" against a man like Floyd (physical traits and age traits and safety first traits), expect Floyd to struggle and look desperately ineffective for large parts of it...

3 years ago he looked desperately ineffective against a woeful novice, McGregor...

You are on a wind up right



I would be very confident that ANY professional boxer, male or female would win that fight. Never mind one of the best ever.

walshb

JimmyVik wrote: »

You are on a wind up right



I would be very confident that ANY professional boxer, male or female would win that fight. Never mind one of the best ever.

Why would I be on a wind up?

For the record: Logan is not a boxer. Not near pro level....not close

I am saying that when they meet, do not expect 42 year old brittle hands safety first Mayweather to go in there and easily dismantle a man 25 kgs heavier and 6 inches taller...It won't happen....

Watch Floyd against McGregor....he was desperate.....

That was 3 years ago.....

Any decent pro boxer (remotely close to his size) easily takes out Paul with skills and experience....

Female boxers? Which ones?

They are females, so not near the power/strength level of men.....

Some these female boxers are terrible. Absolute terrible....

I am not saying Floyd doesn't win, if it is for decision...e very likely does....

I am saying that if all is above board, expect him NOT to look effortless and not to absolutely dominate with any ease....

If it was Canelo or GGG or Spence or Beterbiev or any other active pro boxer who can fight agressive, Paul is out of there inside a round.....

So, let's not make out I am in any way saying Logan Paul is good....he is not...