Interesting interview with Dr Mike Yeadon

mouldybiscuits

This is an interesting interview with Dr Mike Yeadon who is an outspoken critic of many government's approach to covid. It's truly puzzling to me why opinions like his and the scientific data he quotes is completely ignored by mainstream media. Why can't we have discussion anymore, it seems like the government's narrative can't be criticized without someone calling you an anti-vaxxer or a conspiracy theorist. Whatever happened to honest debate? Our liberal societies are becoming more similar to a communist regime with every passing year.

Caraibh

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

This is an interesting interview with Dr Mike Yeadon who is an outspoken critic of many government's approach to covid. It's truly puzzling to me why opinions like his and the scientific data he quotes is completely ignored by mainstream media. Why can't we have discussion anymore, it seems like the government's narrative can't be criticized without someone calling you an anti-vaxxer or a conspiracy theorist. Whatever happened to honest debate? Our liberal societies are becoming more similar to a communist regime with every passing year.

Unless you have the "right" opinion then you're either a quack or a conspiracy theorist. Welcome to the new Brave New World.

hmmm

The use of the phrase "Mainstream media" reminds me of something I heard years ago - if alternative medicine worked, it'd just be called "Medicine".

mouldybiscuits

hmmm wrote: »

The use of the phrase "Mainstream media" reminds me of something I heard years ago - if alternative medicine worked, it'd just be called "Medicine".

The bias shown in mainstream media has separated them into a different entity. Propaganda would actually be a more accurate term than media for some of these news organisations.

Mrs OBumble

hmmm wrote: »

The use of the phrase "Mainstream media" reminds me of something I heard years ago - if alternative medicine worked, it'd just be called "Medicine".

The difference being that doctors are registered professionals, journalists ain't.

Change the thread title - he is not an immunologist.

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Ficheall

To save anyone's 11 minutes, he basically says it makes more sense for vulnerable people to get it and not enforce a mass rollout because we don't know enough about the risk/benefit.


Which is what's effectively going to happen anyway - the vulnerable will get it, and by the time the rest of us are offered it in X months, we'll know better where we stand.

Stihl waters

Someone has to call the shots, if we listened to every arsehole with an opinion we wouldn't know if we were coming or going

Caraibh

Stihl waters wrote: »

Someone has to call the shots, if we listened to every arsehole with an opinion we wouldn't know if we were coming or going

But the point is that they're (the governments of the world) ignoring those scientists and doctors who disagree with WHO.

Harry Palmr

When GO'D has decided to cite you as evidence it's not your fault of course but it's not helpful either!

Dead link btw so don't bother clicking it.

https://gemmaodoherty.com/investigations/dr-mike-yeadon-understanding-the-covid-hoax/

ElJeffe

Do tin foil hats have to be stored at -72c as well as the vaccine?

Caraibh

ElJeffe wrote: »

Do tin foil hats have to be stored at -72c as well as the vaccine?

The tin foil hatters who dare to question the severity of the one and two case a day raging Irish pandemic of the summer of 2020?

xhomelezz

Caraibh wrote: »

The tin foil hatters who dare to question the severity of the one and two case a day raging Irish pandemic of the summer of 2020?

It's December mate, summer 2020 is gone.

Stihl waters

Caraibh wrote: »

But the point is that they're (the governments of the world) ignoring those scientists and doctors who disagree with WHO.

My point exactly, they've seen all the evidence and made the call in the best interests of the people, I'd imagine government appointed scientists aren't in their position because they slept their way to the top, these people are in place to advise, where does it stop if we have to listen to anyone with a degree in science who thinks they're right and everyone else wrong

Caraibh

Stihl waters wrote: »

My point exactly, they've seen all the evidence and made the call in the best interests of the people, I'd imagine government appointed scientists aren't in their position because they slept their way to the top, these people are in place to advise, where does it stop if we have to listen to anyone with a degree in science who thinks they're right and everyone else wrong

But why then was there an article in the BMJ recently about the politicisation, corruption and suppression of science? Many scientists have been censored, dismissed or ignored since March.

Boggles

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

It's truly puzzling to me why opinions like his and the scientific data he quotes is completely ignored by mainstream media.

Because he is a fúcking fruit loop talking completely out of his hole would be my guess.

is_that_so

Hmm, 14 posts on a topic that looks like it got separated from the CT forum.

Caraibh

is_that_so wrote: »

Hmm, 14 posts on a topic that looks like it got separated from the CT forum.

What's this conspiracy theory? All I see is an interview with Dr Yeadon and people discussing it.

is_that_so

Caraibh wrote: »

What's this conspiracy theory? All I see is an interview with Dr Yeadon and people discussing it.

Mike Yeadon has an unmoving position on this, some of which is completely wrong, but you're free to discuss him.

Elmer Blooker

Boggles wrote: »

Because he is a fúcking fruit loop talking completely out of his hole would be my guess.

If you have a few minutes to spare it might be worth your while to find out a bit more about this 'fruit loop'.
Amazing what one can achieve by 'talking out of his hole'.

Dr Yeadon is a co-founder of Ziarco and CEO. He is an Allergy & Respiratory therapeutic area expert, developed out of deep knowledge of biology & therapeutics, and is an innovative drug discoverer with over 25 years of experience in drug discovery and development. Dr Yeadon has published over 40 original research articles and since 2011 hasconsulted to more than 20 biotechnology companies. Prior to consulting as an independent, he was Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer of the A&R Research Unit of Pfizer. At Pfizer, Dr Yeadon was responsible for target selection and the progress into humans of new molecules, leading teams of up to 200 staff across all disciplines and won an Achievement Award for productivity in 2008. Under his leadership the unit invented oral and inhaled NCEs which delivered positive clinical proofs of concept in asthma, allergic rhinitis and COPD. He led productive external collaborations and was involved in product and device licensing.
Prior to Pfizer, Dr Yeadon worked at the Wellcome Research Labs with Salvador Moncada with a research focus on airway hyper-responsiveness and effects of pollutants including ozone and working in drug discovery of 5-LO, COX, NO and lung inflammation. With colleagues, he was the first to detect exhaled NO in animals and later to induce NOS in lung via allergic triggers. He attended the University of Surrey in Guildford, U.K, where he received his PhD (under Professor Ian Kitchen), with thesis work in the respiratory field, and a BSc, First Class, with Joint Honours, in Biochemistry and Toxicology.

TomTomTim

Boggles wrote: »

Because he is a fúcking fruit loop talking completely out of his hole would be my guess.

Typical of you, straight to slander, with little substance.

TomTomTim

is_that_so wrote: »

Mike Yeadon has an unmoving position on this, some of which is completely wrong, but you're free to discuss him.

You still haven't explained the conspiratorial claim?

Boggles

TomTomTim wrote: »

Typical of you, straight to slander, with little substance.

Slander would infer something I said was untrue.

is_that_so

TomTomTim wrote: »

You still haven't explained the conspiratorial claim?

He's anti-lockdowns on sight, in that cohort who claims that there is immunity from previous illnesses, despite there being no evidence whatsoever and has been vocal in insisting we've got it all wrong all the way through. For most people that's a crank.

Elmer Blooker

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

If you have a few minutes to spare it might be worth your while to find out a bit more about this 'fruit loop'.
Amazing what one can achieve by 'talking out of his hole'.

Not am immunologist then despite efforts to bestow unwarranted qualifications on him in the thread title in a effort to make him seem qualified to speak with authority on the vaccine

Boggles

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

If you have a few minutes to spare it might be worth your while to find out a bit more about this 'fruit loop'.
Amazing what one can achieve by 'talking out of his hole'.

It took less than that.

His continually claims that the global pandemic ended in June with out offering any supporting evidence for his bad shít nonsense immediately disqualifies him or anything he has to offer.

His family if he has any should be staging a intervention and not allowing him to rant and rave on the internet destroying what ever good reputation he may have built up in the past.

Polar101

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

Whatever happened to honest debate? Our liberal societies are becoming more similar to a communist regime with every passing year.

I think the honest debate got buried somewhere under that heavily loaded statement.

Panthro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LbD1rWkF-Q

Interesting listen to a Dr Hodkinson talking at Edmonton city Council.

Caraibh

Panthro wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LbD1rWkF-Q

Interesting listen to a Dr Hodkinson talking at Edmonton city Council.

Yes, but some factchecker tried to argue that what he said wasn't actually what he said, if you can believe it. This is how ridiculous this whole thing has become.

pjohnson

Caraibh wrote: »

Yes, but some factchecker tried to argue that what he said wasn't actually what he said, if you can believe it. This is how ridiculous this whole thing has become.

Off course you dont like fact checking :pac:

speckle

Mike Yeadon as a scientist may not be what the average person thinks an immunologist might be ie. a hospital specialist immunologist that deals with patients.
Please see the below as many bio medical degrees including bio chemistry etc are accepted by the British society for immunology.

I know in Ireland when I was at university there was no stand alone degree in immunology that I remember and less than 5 specialists in this country in all the hospitals put together but many more researching it in academia or working in the pharma industry with a variety of undergrad degrees as starting points in their careers. In fact the waiting list was up to 4 years to get an appointment via public health.

https://www.immunology.org/careers/studying-immunology-undergraduate-level

They link to here were his first class hons degree would sit as a bio chemist and toxiologist.

https://careers.ibms.org/discover-biomedical-science/what-is-biomedical-science/

Like many sciences the more the science evolves pathways are divided into more specialist areas with some over lap.

Mike Yeadon has recently retired but has worked for decades within science as you can see from his bio and is absolutely a respected expert no matter if you disagree with his views on covid. And should at least be heard and not silenced.

I dont think there would be room enough in the thread title to list all his titles and expertise but you could try it might actually be more impressive?

Boggles

speckle wrote: »

Mike Yeadon has recently retired but has worked for decades within science as you can see from his bio and is absolutely a respected expert no matter if you disagree with his views on covid. And should at least be heard and not silenced.

Nah, absolute bollíx, he is one of these clowns who think it's all a scam, dangerous fúcking muppetery like that needs to be stamped out and called out, it will only lead to people getting sick and potentially worse.

speckle

And as an aside covid is technically an infectious disease but as it grew into a global pandemic many different experts are needed with all their advice in their specialitys put together... virologists,immunoligists, infectious disease .. epidemiologists.. biochemists.. intesivenists...respiratory and cardiac specialists...public health...pathologists..pharmacologists etc etc
It is taking a village to sort this out... there is no one singular covid expert... a covidologists.. well maybe not yet...

Excuse the spelling an awful lot of ologists

Caraibh

Boggles wrote: »

Nah, absolute bollíx, he is one of these clowns who think it's all a scam, dangerous fúcking muppetery like that needs to be stamped out and called out, it will only lead to people getting sick and potentially worse.

Can you explain the following on www.gov.uk:

"As of March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK."

The above has not been revised since March.

speckle

speckle wrote: »

Mike Yeadon as a scientist may not be what the average person thinks an immunologist might be ie. a hospital specialist immunologist that deals with patients.
Please see the below as many bio medical degrees including bio chemistry etc are accepted by the British society for immunology.

I know in Ireland when I was at university there was no stand alone degree in immunology that I remember and less than 5 specialists in this country in all the hospitals put together but many more researching it in academia or working in the pharma industry with a variety of undergrad degrees as starting points in their careers. In fact the waiting list was up to 4 years to get an appointment via public health.

https://www.immunology.org/careers/studying-immunology-undergraduate-level

They link to here were his first class hons degree would sit as a bio chemist and toxiologist.

https://careers.ibms.org/discover-biomedical-science/what-is-biomedical-science/

Like many sciences the more the science evolves pathways are divided into more specialist areas with some over lap.

Mike Yeadon has recently retired but has worked for decades within science as you can see from his bio and is absolutely a respected expert no matter if you disagree with his views on covid. And should at least be heard and not silenced.

I dont think there would be room enough in the thread title to list all his titles and expertise but you could try it might actually be more impressive?

There is no standard degree in Quantum Mechanics either. Generally studied as part of a BSc. During college I did a quantum mechanics module but am certainly not Richard Feynman or can I claim to have an understanding of anything but the very basics.

None of Yeadons experience is in immunology, and any claim of expertise in immunology is not based in anything

Caraibh

Caraibh wrote: »

Yes, but some factchecker tried to argue that what he said wasn't actually what he said, if you can believe it. This is how ridiculous this whole thing has become.

Some people check their sources. It appears the Dr Hodgkindon is CEO of a company called malpractice check. Ambulance chasers headed by a doctor as opposed to a lawyer it seems

Caraibh

Caraibh wrote: »

Can you explain the following on www.gov.uk:

"As of March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK."

The above has not been revised since March.

This sh*te has been in circulation since March among those deliberately spreading misinformation

Check your bullsh*t before you post it

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-hcid/

pjohnson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Some people check their sources. It appears the Dr Hodgkindon is CEO of a company called malpractice check. Ambulance chasers headed by a doctor as opposed to a lawyer it seems

Hodgkinson is "President" of a organisation that hasn't existed in over 25 years. The thumbnail is the first piece of shìte in the vid before you hit play :pac:

speckle

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This sh*te has been in circulation since March among those deliberately spreading misinformation

Check your bullsh*t before you post it

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-hcid/

I would let people read that fact check in full as I think it is not what you say eithet.

Covid-19 may not be a “high consequence infectious disease”, but it is a real emergency
29 May 2020
What was claimed

The UK government no longer considers Covid-19 to be a “high consequence infectious disease”.
Our verdict

This is true, because it no longer meets the criteria for an HCID. This doesn’t mean that it is no longer considered dangerous.

Several Facebook posts have shared a screenshot from a UK government website, which says that Covid-19 is no longer considered a “high consequence infectious diseases” [sic]. Some readers have also asked us whether this is true.

Despite the misprinted “s”, which might typically be a red flag indicating a fake website, this screenshot does come from the UK government (although the typo has since been corrected). It is also true that Public Health England no longer considers Covid-19 a high consequence infectious disease (HCID).

Some Facebook comments say that if Covid-19 is not considered a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) then the current lockdown is based on a “hoax”. This is a misunderstanding of what the HCID label means.
What is an HCID?

Covid-19 was first classified as an HCID in the UK on 16 January 2020, when it was still known as the “Wuhan novel coronavirus”. HCIDs are serious diseases that sometimes arrive in the UK from other countries, and have the potential to spread domestically. As a result, the NHS and other European health services have made plans to identify and respond to them.

According to the UK government’s definition, an HCID has several features. Among them are the fact that it “typically has a high case-fatality rate” and is “often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly”. There are currently 16 diseases listed as HCIDs, including Ebola, SARS, MERS, monkeypox, plague and four severe strains of bird flu.

The case fatality rate for these diseases—meaning the proportion of confirmed cases who then die—is high. For Ebola it is about 50%, SARS about 15%, and monkeypox up to 11%. Even a small outbreak of these diseases could potentially kill many people.

For example, if roughly half the population (out of 66 million in the UK) caught a disease with a 1% case fatality rate, it would result in 300,000 deaths. For comparison, 541,589 deaths were recorded across the UK in 2018 from all causes.
Why was Covid-19 declassified as an HCID?

Explaining why Covid-19 is no longer an HCID, the UK government says: “Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.”

The note says that the Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens, a group of independent experts that advises the government, also believed that “COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID”.

This does not mean the current Covid-19 outbreak is not a serious public health emergency, however. Even though the risk of dying from the disease is low for most people, it has been shown that the disease can spread quickly to a large number of people, and therefore cause a large number of deaths in total.
How dangerous is Covid-19?

In January 2020, when Covid-19 was a very new disease, it was not known what proportion of the people who caught it would die.

At the time, it was possible that Covid-19 might have proven to be a disease with a high case fatality rate, like the other HCIDs. This was when Covid-19 (or the “Wuhan novel coronavirus”) was added to the HCID list.

Covid-19 is still a new disease, but a great deal was learned about it between January and March. The case fatality rate remains a matter of debate among scientists, and will vary in different places, according to the quality of care available, the underlying health of the population, and many other factors.

However, several estimates in March put the rate a little above 1%, based on data from mainland China and from the Diamond Princess cruise ship. It is important to remember that this represents only the proportion of confirmed cases which result in the patient dying. If there are many unconfirmed Covid-19 deaths the proportion will be higher. If there are many unconfirmed Covid-19 cases, the proportion will be lower.

In any event, Covid-19 does now appear to have a much lower case fatality rate than the other diseases on the HCID list. It is also now much easier to identify, with greater testing capacity than there was in January.

speckle

speckle wrote: »

I would let people read that fact check in full as I think it is not what you say eithet.

Covid-19 may not be a “high consequence infectious disease”, but it is a real emergency
29 May 2020
What was claimed

The UK government no longer considers Covid-19 to be a “high consequence infectious disease”.
Our verdict

This is true, because it no longer meets the criteria for an HCID. This doesn’t mean that it is no longer considered dangerous.

Several Facebook posts have shared a screenshot from a UK government website, which says that Covid-19 is no longer considered a “high consequence infectious diseases” [sic]. Some readers have also asked us whether this is true.

Despite the misprinted “s”, which might typically be a red flag indicating a fake website, this screenshot does come from the UK government (although the typo has since been corrected). It is also true that Public Health England no longer considers Covid-19 a high consequence infectious disease (HCID).

Some Facebook comments say that if Covid-19 is not considered a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) then the current lockdown is based on a “hoax”. This is a misunderstanding of what the HCID label means.
What is an HCID?

Covid-19 was first classified as an HCID in the UK on 16 January 2020, when it was still known as the “Wuhan novel coronavirus”. HCIDs are serious diseases that sometimes arrive in the UK from other countries, and have the potential to spread domestically. As a result, the NHS and other European health services have made plans to identify and respond to them.

According to the UK government’s definition, an HCID has several features. Among them are the fact that it “typically has a high case-fatality rate” and is “often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly”. There are currently 16 diseases listed as HCIDs, including Ebola, SARS, MERS, monkeypox, plague and four severe strains of bird flu.

The case fatality rate for these diseases—meaning the proportion of confirmed cases who then die—is high. For Ebola it is about 50%, SARS about 15%, and monkeypox up to 11%. Even a small outbreak of these diseases could potentially kill many people.

For example, if roughly half the population (out of 66 million in the UK) caught a disease with a 1% case fatality rate, it would result in 300,000 deaths. For comparison, 541,589 deaths were recorded across the UK in 2018 from all causes.
Why was Covid-19 declassified as an HCID?

Explaining why Covid-19 is no longer an HCID, the UK government says: “Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.”

The note says that the Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens, a group of independent experts that advises the government, also believed that “COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID”.

This does not mean the current Covid-19 outbreak is not a serious public health emergency, however. Even though the risk of dying from the disease is low for most people, it has been shown that the disease can spread quickly to a large number of people, and therefore cause a large number of deaths in total.
How dangerous is Covid-19?

In January 2020, when Covid-19 was a very new disease, it was not known what proportion of the people who caught it would die.

At the time, it was possible that Covid-19 might have proven to be a disease with a high case fatality rate, like the other HCIDs. This was when Covid-19 (or the “Wuhan novel coronavirus”) was added to the HCID list.

Covid-19 is still a new disease, but a great deal was learned about it between January and March. The case fatality rate remains a matter of debate among scientists, and will vary in different places, according to the quality of care available, the underlying health of the population, and many other factors.

However, several estimates in March put the rate a little above 1%, based on data from mainland China and from the Diamond Princess cruise ship. It is important to remember that this represents only the proportion of confirmed cases which result in the patient dying. If there are many unconfirmed Covid-19 deaths the proportion will be higher. If there are many unconfirmed Covid-19 cases, the proportion will be lower.

In any event, Covid-19 does now appear to have a much lower case fatality rate than the other diseases on the HCID list. It is also now much easier to identify, with greater testing capacity than there was in January.

People who post that selective interpretation as in the earlier post are either engaged in deliberate misrepresentation or are ignorant patsys of those propagandists spreading the misrepresentation. So Covid is not Ebola, fair enough , but the talk track being peddled is designed to deliberately downplay through complete misrepresentation. Worse than blatant lying for me

speckle

Which is why I posted the whole fact check so neither extremes can misintreprate it and everyone else can read it and make up their own minds.

Ronin247

Panthro wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LbD1rWkF-Q

Interesting listen to a Dr Hodkinson talking at Edmonton city Council.

"Masks are utterly useless " ....followed shortly after by......... "They are not even worn effectively most of the time"

When he is contradicting himself then he cannot expect the rest of us to pay much heed to him.

Panthro

Ronin247 wrote: »

"Masks are utterly useless " ....followed shortly after by......... "They are not even worn effectively most of the time"

When he is contradicting himself then he cannot expect the rest of us to pay much heed to him.

Ah tbf, you don't have to stray too far down the shopping aisle before you come across some gnome with their nose peeking out over the mask!

Caraibh

pjohnson wrote: »

Hodgkinson is "President" of a organisation that hasn't existed in over 25 years. The thumbnail is the first piece of shìte in the vid before you hit play :pac:

His credentials:

General practitioner in the UK and Canada
Staff pathologist at the Misericordia Hospital, Edmonton, Alberta
Pathologist with the Medical Examiner’s Office in Edmonton determining the cause of death
Assistant Professor in the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Alberta
President of the Alberta Society of Laboratory Physicians
Chairman of a Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons committee in Ottawa
CEO of a large private medical laboratory in Edmonton, Alberta

Are you suggesting he is another doctor who can be added to the list of thousands of doctors and scientists who disagree with WHO and who, as a result, now know nothing?

Caraibh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This sh*te has been in circulation since March among those deliberately spreading misinformation

Check your bullsh*t before you post it

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-hcid/

Your fact check doesn't change the fact that it's no longer considered a high consequence infectious disease. When did I say it wasn't serious? I simply pointed out that it's not considered to be a high consequence infectious disease in Britain. I don't know what the misinformation is.

pjohnson

Caraibh wrote: »

His credentials:

General practitioner in the UK and Canada
Staff pathologist at the Misericordia Hospital, Edmonton, Alberta
Pathologist with the Medical Examiner’s Office in Edmonton determining the cause of death
Assistant Professor in the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Alberta
President of the Alberta Society of Laboratory Physicians
Chairman of a Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons committee in Ottawa
CEO of a large private medical laboratory in Edmonton, Alberta

Are you suggesting he is another doctor who can be added to the list of thousands of doctors and scientists who disagree with WHO and who, as a result, now know nothing?

He may aswell call himself President of Hogwarts.

Caraibh

pjohnson wrote: »

He may aswell call himself President of Hogwarts.

And his other qualifications since you don't think much of that particular one?

Caraibh

Caraibh wrote: »

And his other qualifications since you don't think much of that particular one?

Look what is job is now - crank for hire basically. You want rebuttal evidence or "medical" opinion for you claim, for the right price Roger will provide

https://westernmedical.ca/our-services/

Any none of this qualifies him in any way in infectious diseases, epidemiology or immunology.

People really should check their sources. I am sure you may be able to find suitability qualified people to support this case, however the parade of charlatans that are generally rolled out are just too easy to refute

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

People really should check their sources.

The sources are grifters peddling lies to weak minds for money.

I doubt the ability to fact check is there.

Caraibh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Look what is job is now - crank for hire basically. You want rebuttal evidence or "medical" opinion for you claim, for the right price Roger will provide

https://westernmedical.ca/our-services/

Any none of this qualifies him in any way in infectious diseases, epidemiology or immunology.

People really should check their sources. I am sure you may be able to find suitability qualified people to support this case, however the parade of charlatans that are generally rolled out are just too easy to refute

And his other qualifications? Not his current job. Are his other qualifications impressive?

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

The sources are grifters peddling lies to weak minds for money.

I doubt the ability to fact check is there.

In this case its true, but there are some eminently qualified people with positions that are not aligned with the prevailing view. They may be wrong but dismissing their opinions outright actually gives credence to those spreading the theories of the Dr. Nick Rivieras who are coming out of the woodwork. Instead you focus on the body of well thought out opinion that refutes their point. Then when you do call out the grifters for that they are, the weak minded cant just say "well you call everyone a loon"