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Travellers Carrickpherish

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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,560 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78


    use to experience regularly during the 90's, ive experienced cows also, housing estate waterford, the joys!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭ friendlyfun


    Saw a horse grazing in my estate the other day. It was sunny so looked weirdly picturesque. A wild west sort of feeling.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭ vixdname


    They got shot twice up there ? FFS what did they do, go back a second time and get shot again ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭ Azatadine


    Imagine having bought one of the houses in this estate and looking out at this........3 horses tethered up..........water bucket and all..........




  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭ Jarhead_Tendler


    You would be fairly disgusted alright.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭ Azatadine


    That area was all landscaped and everything. Shocking what they are doing up there. They couldn't give a damn about anything.

    I saw some other planning permission signs up that area too so they will start running out of area to take over for horses soon enough.

    They'll probably just move into the grassy areas inside other estates then I suppose.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭ Quitelife


    Be in peoples lawns after that - a certain section of Irish society can do as they please and the politicians won’t open their mouth .

    The law abiding people of ireland are been out bred . Who’s going to pay all these peoples welfare in the years ahead ??



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,560 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78


    yup, desperate people have simply bought these properties, what a fcuking train wreck of an approach to housing we have!

    ....the majority of births in the country are still amongst the settled community, so i wouldnt be worrying about such!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭ Azatadine


    Walked from B&L to the end of the Carrickphierrish road and back there this morning. I ride horses myself and I don't mind the smell of horseshit but Jesus, the green area in front of the new houses is destroyed by the horses and the stench of horseshit all around the area is atrocious. That stench would definitely go into the new houses. I pity those people who bought those houses. Dirty hell hole of a road as a result of that halting site.



  • Registered Users Posts: 354 ✭✭ OneLungDavy


    Is that supposed to be a green area? You know, for kids to run around and play football etc, now it's overtaken by horses? Jesus, that's kind of heart-breaking.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭ Azatadine


    The more houses that get built over there, the less grass there is for that crowds horses so they are now starting to encroach more and more on anywhere that there's grass. It's honestly just a matter if time before they start to invade private green areas in any estates around there. They don't care. They tether the horses up to the walls/fences and leave troughs on the ground and everything. Horseshit everywhere and it smells brutal (and I dont mind the smell of horseshit cos I ride horses myself but I dont want that smell inside my house). It's worth taking a drive by some say just to see the state of the whole area. I really pity those people, looking out at that and trying to keep their kids from getting destroyed in horseshit and rubbish discarded by the "lads".



  • Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭ nomoedoe


    Have a look at the field on the right as you go into the NCT centre there’s about 5 horses in there and the field opposite in the industrial estate there’s one or two ,travellers do what they want because they get away with it ,that whole area is an absolute mess i can only imagine what it will be like in a few years because the council have washed their hands with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭ Azatadine


    It really is a disgrace. I can only imagine how bad its going to become. Its like it's just been abandoned and thrown to the wolves. Nobody seems to care. Those apartments at the opposite side are in a bad state too. Its such a pity because the Gaeilscoil and Educate Together school is lovely and very well maintained but it stands alone on that road. I'm surprised with West, Genzyme and B&L that some pressure to stop the area going to the place its going wasn't exerted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,334 ✭✭✭ Hijpo


    The poor disadvantaged ethnic minority, we should be privileged to have cap's on our walls, they don't even have walls. Check your privilege.

    I'm sure that would be something along the lines of what the socialists that dont have to put up with it would spew.



  • Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭ Valhalla90


    Its become an absolute kip of an area unfortunately. Most likely going to continue to get worse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭ Rustyman101


    Now now we should all be delighted with this cultural enrichment ! 1 law for Leo's people who "get up early in the morning " and a different law, well not different just total lack of enforcement for the people who don't rise so early!

    Joke, try dumping a 3 bed trailer out on the green in front of your house n see how long before you get cuffed !



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,560 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78


    i suspect its not just some socialists thats ignoring this and encouraging it, this is fcuking disgraceful stuff, the folks in the area need to come together and start kicking up over it



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭ Azatadine


    Yeah, they really need to get together and at least try to get the situation improved. I find it absolutely incredible that within a couple of weeks of the estate being opened that they have taken over the front with their horses and removed caps off the piers to tether them. Also, there are loads of crap containers lying around to water the horses. I really can't get my head around that. I don't live up that direction but it just makes my blood boil to see how they lay claim to everything in that area, even neighbouring estates. Surely the council must drive by there occasionally and see it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭ GandhiwasfromBallyfermot


    I've stopped cycling on this road lately, its just too dangerous. Almost every time I pass the halting site the children sprint out and try push me off, throw stuff at me or if they get close enough try poking sticks through the spokes of my wheels. Never mind trying to dodge all the shite in the bike lane and road up there.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,560 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78


    council policy is clearly to ignore it, as that generally means, it ll go away!

    no one should have to put up with that sh1t!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭ Azatadine




  • Registered Users Posts: 26,560 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78


    they should have the right to protest just like ourselves, we clearly have failed them, but they certainly havent helped themselves, polices to attend to their needs have effectively been trying to change them into settlers, it clearly has failed, they no longer have a place in society, this leads to dysfunctional outcomes.....



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭ FutureGuy


    First time seeing this thread and reading through it. Two years later, isn't it amazing that things turned out EXACTLY as predicted?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,334 ✭✭✭ Hijpo


    "governments have failed to address the dire conditions in which Travellers are living"

    From what i have seen the sites and the surrounding areas only get wrecked after they move in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭ Azatadine


    Yup, the new estate being a great example. Soon as it opened, they started to wreck it and put their horses on it. It looks awful and the smell of horseshit is awful when you walk by there. I cant imagine living there at all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭ Rustyman101


    Society doesn't owe you a living, if you want to live on the margins, knock yourself out but don't expect others to pick up the tab !

    Any limited interaction I have had or seen is bullying, harassment and thuggery, I assume by the law of averages there are some decent people but Joe public doesn't see them and they are not vocal in criticism of obvious failings within the group.

    Two way street n all that !



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,560 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78


    who d employ them? even for settlers, its actually very difficult to gain employment with largely untreated complex psychological disorders



  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭ Rustyman101


    Agree 100% who would employ them ? Not many would be my guess ! Now why do you think that is ?

    In my opinion it's perception and where do you think that comes from ?

    Pass a site, door to door salesmen, ever travel on the ships on the irish Sea ? A&E another good place to see the cultural enrichment usually when you have a sick family member.

    Social media as our mainstream seems to avoid mentioning anything that's not PC

    Now obviously not all engage in the above but it's where people get their perception, the ring road aka Ben Hur highway another good one.

    So not really buying your complex issues, you could apply that to multiple demographics but they don't engage in 50% of the shite that travellers do, I'm done on this one now atb.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,560 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78


    would you consider their behaviors as socially normal and acceptable? have an ould chat to them, and you ll start to see the disorders such as learning disabilities, substance miss use, all sorts of complex trauma, including generational trauma, etc etc. its extremely difficult to function 'normally' under such, let alone work. as it stands, most are currently unemployable, unless we do whatever we can to help them to resolve these issues, and even at that, employment is probably a long shot, but we might just prevent some of the dysfunction, might!

    plenty of settlers behave in similar ways, spend time in any underdeveloped area, and you ll see it, you ll see the same or similar disorders at play there also!



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