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England v Ireland Autumn Nations Cup | 21.11.20 KO 15:00 | RTE 1 Read Post #5

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    The lineout would get torn apart at amateur level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    almostover wrote: »
    Lowe finding things a bit of a step up today. How was a flanker who isnt known for his speed the closest chaser?



    Desire.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Kevin OByrne could legitimately be in line for an Ireland call up

    Cant be any worse than what we have


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭UAEguy2020


    Won 1 line out from 4, this is really unforgivable at this level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,169 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    He isnt though. Being best open field runner which might not be true considering at provncial level he's in an extremely dominant pack which his rivals dont have. And he's hooker and primary duties are throwing into the lineout and scrummaging.

    I think it's pretty clear that the problem is a systems issue. We've had the same issue with numerous different hookers. Bette roff persisting with the young gun with a huge upside.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Clegg wrote: »
    Suppose we're going to blame Kelleher for that one too?

    Not that one, but in general we’ve seen time and time again he isn’t test level


  • Registered Users Posts: 423 ✭✭AlfaZen


    Clegg wrote: »
    Suppose we're going to blame Kelleher for that one too?

    No that was Ryan not protecting the ball and Itoje out playing him


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,756 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    We keep being told how physical England are.

    That's not the issue.

    Our play is predictable and they're lining us up in 2s and 3s.

    Easy to defend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Solutionking


    The only way Ireland is going to bring in new player is to play them,.....everyone is giving out and wants change, Ireland changes and put in new players and every one complains......


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 34,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    kmart6 wrote: »
    That was on Ryan not securing it, not Kelleher before people jump on him again.

    It was on Itoje being a world class lineout defender.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Itoje the complete player


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,385 ✭✭✭touts


    KH25 wrote: »
    Our lineout is a mess.

    Kelleher will be lucky to make it to half time. Between the lineout and the scrums he's being destroyed.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Kevin OByrne could legitimately be in line for an Ireland call up

    Cant be any worse than what we have

    This is nonsense that everything is put on Kelleher.

    The last two throws were bang on the money, but the English jumpers read it perfectly.

    That’s not Kellehers fault.

    I swear we’re so quick to find someone to blame here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭UAEguy2020


    We have won 20% of our lineouts today, how do you plan to win any test match with stats like this?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 13,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    England are everywhere, have to give it to them. We are giving them (literally), but they are impressive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Attacking line is too deep, passing is too slow, too easy to read, England are just blitzing like they always do. Turn the fûckers round.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,756 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Pass. Pass. Gets tackled.

    Pass. Pass. Gets tackled.

    Rinse. Repeat.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Garda Kenny


    Murray would be killing us here if he was playing. Gibson park much improving our play


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    All too predictable in attack


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    As much as it’s not nice to see how we are getting beaten in scrum, lineout and in the tackle it’s fascinating to watch Itoje playing the game. He is the most complete forward I have ever seen playing the game.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Kraftwerk


    This is reminiscent of the soccer game. England are just operating on the next level. They're able to hit ball carriers with two tacklers extremely fast and compete at the breakdown without getting stretched.

    Ireland are fighting an uphill battle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    There isn't one Irish player who is better than his opposite number.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    NONE OF THE ENGLISH PLAYERS WERE ON THEIR FEET.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,593 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Keenan never should have gotten that ball. Shouldn't have been anywhere near it


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Keenan as first man out, Healy with an awful attempt at a clean out!did nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    Great from Earls, feck what followed.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭fitz


    Venjur wrote: »
    NONE OF THE ENGLISH PLAYERS WERE ON THEIR FEET.

    Complete bullsh*t penalty call.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    There isn’t a chance in hell that the English player who shot up to Keenan initially was onside there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,169 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    awec wrote: »
    We’re being bullied.

    We aren't. We're putting a lot if pressure on England and they're conceding penalties. It's wet piece issues that's killing us. For instance that was a tremendously encouraging piece of multi phase play. It sucked in defender after defender and eventually led to the break. We just can't convert.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭almostover


    Venjur wrote: »
    NONE OF THE ENGLISH PLAYERS WERE ON THEIR FEET.

    Vunipola never released either. French ref,free for all at breakdown. We've got to get in on the action


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