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Dublin Zoo appeal

  • 18-11-2020 9:26am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    Dublin Zoo is in financial difficulties due to the pandemic restrictions. They have launched a fundraising appeal on their site -
    https://www.dublinzoo.ie/save-dublin-zoo/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,718 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    why would anyone want to help save a zoo? its just a prison for animals, they should have been banned years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    No cause for pandamonium yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    As has been said a thousand times on Twitter, every cent of that big pile of money the Greyhound industry get every year wouldn’t be wasted if it went here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,052 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Its a very good cause. Dublin zoo does great work with education and animal preservation. Great zoo to have in Dublin.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Its a very good cause. Dublin zoo does great work with education and animal preservation. Great zoo to have in Dublin.

    Thank you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Someone on the radio just made a decent suggestion - instead of annual passes why not create a 10 year pass (or maybe 5 year as well) and get future income in to help now.

    67.2 was committed to the geegees in the budget for 2021.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Niallof9


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    why would anyone want to help save a zoo? its just a prison for animals, they should have been banned years ago.

    The simple reality is while Zoo's are not ideal, not being able to appreciate some of life's wonder and its complexities right in front of your face, particularly as a child, would probably lead to the extinction or wilful neglect of more species through pure ignorance and apathy. No amount of amazing Our Planet docs will replace seeing animals up close. Zoos with less space should be closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Just donated. No zoos aren’t ideal but they do a lot of great work and I love visiting with my children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    why would anyone want to help save a zoo? its just a prison for animals, they should have been banned years ago.

    It has been widely acknowledged that the most important aspect of conservation in the 21st century is education. New botanical garden installations are designed chiefly by landscapers and artists to feature relaxing spaces and have that "insta" aesthetic. Zoos go a long way in educating people about global conservation efforts, and are also important for breeding programs of endangered species. All the animals on display are born and reared in captivity - its all they know, they no doubt enjoy a cushy life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    why would anyone want to help save a zoo? its just a prison for animals, they should have been banned years ago.

    Dublin Zoo takes part in a conservation project to try and help save the white rhino. Without the likes of them, they would be extinct in the wild.

    They also take part in other such projects, worth having a look at this.

    https://www.dublinzoo.ie/conservation-in-action/what-were-doing/conservation-projects/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    why would anyone want to help save a zoo? its just a prison for animals, they should have been banned years ago.

    Many endangered animals today would exist only for zoos and their conservation efforts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    why would anyone want to help save a zoo? its just a prison for animals, they should have been banned years ago.

    Stupendous ignorance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,814 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Cook up the animals and feed the homeless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    No thanks. Animal Prison. There should be a plan to wind it down over the next decade or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    No thanks. Animal Prison. There should be a plan to wind it down over the next decade or so.

    .
    Hurrache wrote: »
    Stupendous ignorance.


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    Hurrache wrote: »
    Stupendous ignorance.

    His parents probably never bought him a toy outside the gates on the way home. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Eduard Khil


    Breeding programs are a vitally important conservation that zoos provide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    No thanks. Animal Prison. There should be a plan to wind it down over the next decade or so.

    And do what with the animals? Move them to social housing in ballymun?

    Stop will ya. There's plenty of Zoo's around the world that should be closed, Dublin zoo isn't one of them. Play a role in conservation and education. The animals are very well looked after as well.

    Read, donate or move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭JimmyL


    Are they approved for the €250 Charitable Donation Scheme?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    You could build a lot of housing there that would be convenient for people working in the city, sell it off and relcocate it somewhere else.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    A sea lion eats 100 quid a day and they have 5 according to the wireless.
    Elephant eats 80 worth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    silverharp wrote: »
    You could build a lot of housing there that would be convenient for people working in the city, sell it off and relcocate it somewhere else.

    Build a load of housing in the phoenix park, beside garda HQ and in a public park? Yes let's scrap a near 200 year old zoo for this. Genius


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    I don't know of any other zoos in Ireland, it is very well known, around since the 1830s, many children are brought to it every year. It would seem to be educational and part of our culture. Yet as typically happens in this country, something that is of importance to society is outsourced to the non profit sector. Now there is financial difficulty, it will need charitable donations and/or there will be a row over the State bailing it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    I don't know of any other zoos in Ireland, it is very well known, around since the 1830s, many children are brought to it every year. It would seem to be educational and part of our culture. Yet as typically happens in this country, something that is of importance to society is outsourced to the non profit sector. Now there is financial difficulty, it will need charitable donations and/or there will be a row over the State bailing it out.




    Foto island is another great zoo with the oldest squad of native red wild squirrel living there.
    They are the purest bred red squirrel in the country


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Someone on the radio just made a decent suggestion - instead of annual passes why not create a 10 year pass (or maybe 5 year as well) and get future income in to help now.

    67.2 was committed to the geegees in the budget for 2021.

    Is John Delaney on the board of Dublin Zoo now? That old chestnut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    ciano316 wrote: »
    Build a load of housing in the phoenix park, beside garda HQ and in a public park? Yes let's scrap a near 200 year old zoo for this. Genius

    Sure it's already been done, there's a massive gaff in the middle of the Phoenix park, Áras an something or other - could stick some flats in beside that too. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    If they are looking for a donation will they take my Trucker/Biker Brother in law?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Foto island is another great zoo with the oldest squad of native red wild squirrel living there.
    They are the purest bred red squirrel in the country

    Red neck Squirrels? (*plays dueling banjo's*)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    Dublin zoo does great work with education and animal preservation.

    I haven't seen them teaching the animals anything.
    Cook up the animals and feed the homeless.

    Don't forget to use their skins to make coats.


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    Perhaps they should do a "hunger games" type reality show and let the animals have at each other.

    I'd watch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Another little known fact is the mgm films introduction with the lion roaring in it is a lion born and bred in Dublin zoo called slats the lion.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    why would anyone want to help save a zoo? its just a prison for animals, they should have been banned years ago.

    Have you been in Dublin Zoo lately?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I don't get worked up about much but I really they should be getting Gov aid if it has reached this point.
    If we can subsidise pubs we could surely subsidise a zoo.
    And it's not like you can just switch the animals off.If it does go under, the animals still need care until they get sorted out elsewhere.Money will still be needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Perhaps they should do a "hunger games" type reality show and let the animals have at each other.

    I'd watch it.

    I would be for throwing Damian English to the lions, Politicians aren't a necessity you know!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    No harm in throwing them a few million, to get them over this period.

    Although I would have thought it would be possible to social distance in a zoo ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    ciano316 wrote: »
    Build a load of housing in the phoenix park, beside garda HQ and in a public park? Yes let's scrap a near 200 year old zoo for this. Genius

    I didnt see an argument in there , good point though, it would be safe with garda HQ near by :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Open the place up, FFS. Its outdoors. Plenty of space for social distancing, if necessary they can limit daily admissions. Time to stop this bullshyte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    I don't know of any other zoos in Ireland, it is very well known, around since the 1830s, many children are brought to it every year. It would seem to be educational and part of our culture. Yet as typically happens in this country, something that is of importance to society is outsourced to the non profit sector. Now there is financial difficulty, it will need charitable donations and/or there will be a row over the State bailing it out.



    They use profits for conservation and breeding programs for endangered animals. No profit or non profit business was ready for this.

    Educate yourself, stop relying on strangers to do it for you. Google is a magnificent resource.

    Fota Island is another zoo in Ireland btw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    I don't know of any other zoos in Ireland, it is very well known, around since the 1830s, many children are brought to it every year.

    Youthreach?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Hoboo wrote: »
    They use profits for conservation and breeding programs for endangered animals. No profit or non profit business was ready for this.

    Educate yourself, stop relying on strangers to do it for you. Google is a magnificent resource.

    Fota Island is another zoo in Ireland btw.
    Piss off with your patronising nonsense, i know very well what Dublin Zoo does and its importance. Fota island doesn't refer to itself as a zoo. Maybe you're the one who should be using Google.

    You also entirely missed my point which is the failure of the State to take responsibility for facilities that are arguably of national importance for various reasons. In no way was I criticising Dublin Zoo itself, that much should have been clear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    JimmyL wrote: »
    Are they approved for the €250 Charitable Donation Scheme?

    They are a registered charity so I would imagine so. Hadn't thought of adding that benefit for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Cook up the animals and feed the homeless.

    Cook up the homeless and feed the animals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭davetherave




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    shesty wrote:
    I don't get worked up about much but I really they should be getting Gov aid if it has reached this point. If we can subsidise pubs we could surely subsidise a zoo. /quote]

    How are the government subsidizing pubs? Apart from the workers payments scheme, what is this pub subsidy you're talking about!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 Voltairey


    Cook up the animals and feed the homeless.
    Look after our own!


    (species)


    Joking, but I hope this will prompt them to sell some of their animals to wildlife parks instead of keeping them in the small enclosures they currently have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I listened to a galling interview on the Today with Claire Byrne show re the latest and utterly offensive €19 million handed out to the greyhound industry, just outrageous with some FG clown on defending it.

    Dublin Zoo is an institution and world renowned for its reputation on the care of its animals. In an ideal world I would totally object to the incarceration of any animal but on conservation grounds, Zoo's do play an important role.

    This is, right now a crisis, particularly maintaining of animal welfare, I support anything that helps the Zoo and more importantly its animals, I don't support the outrageous €19 million handed out to the offensive and proven barbaric greyhound industry with only one TD objecting. €19 million would have gone a long way to suppoing Dublin Zoo and its conservation efforts.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    A sea lion eats 100 quid a day and they have 5 according to the wireless.

    Is that not squid?

    Elephant eats 80 worth

    Yeah, they're paid peanuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    shesty wrote: »
    Have you been in Dublin Zoo lately?

    I have.
    Full price for half the experience.

    One way system around the Zoo.
    Every indoor enclosure closed, even those with half roofs/outdoor shelters on them.
    Sea lion enclosure, one of the main attractions roped off at the stairs.
    Playgrounds closed.
    Staff moving people on at the elephant enclosure.

    Oh yeah... you have to book at least a week in advance to get tickets, so never guaranteed of the weather either.
    Previously, you could decide to go or not on the day.

    Won't be going back with those restrictions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Ashbourne hoop


    The Adoption Package they are advertising is well worth €50


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭markpb


    JimmyL wrote: »
    Are they approved for the €250 Charitable Donation Scheme?

    I mailed them to ask, they've gone to find out :)


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