Where can you buy a dog now

kerryjack

I am on the look out for a little house dog, they seem to have disappeared from donedeal. What's going on, are they all gone under ground and where can I find them.

Jb1989

kerryjack wrote: »

I am on the look out for a little house dog, they seem to have disappeared from donedeal. What's going on, are they all gone under ground and where can I find them.

Any in local dog shelter?

Attie Ross

Local dog rescue should have something.
My advice get a pup as you can train it for yourself older dogs kind of set in there ways.
Old dogs and new tricks.

Stihl waters

Theres a big campaign going on at the moment due to dodgy puppy farming and dogs getting stolen to breed, any legitimate breeders have stopped breeding during covid, your best bet is adopting a dog from the pound or getting in contact with a breeder who will put you on a list for when breeding gets back to normal, done deal were advertising stolen dogs and dogs bred by individuals who were abusing the bitches to maximise production, theres a concerted effort from many corners to try and regulate the industry to stop abuses of dogs for breeding

kerryjack

Where did all the dogs that were for sale on donedeal go to did they disappear.

Stihl waters

kerryjack wrote: »

Where did all the dogs that were for sale on donedeal go to did they disappear.

Obviously not, done deal just aren't advertising dogs for sale

jntsnk

The dark web, so i believe. but wouldn’t have a clue how to access it.

ml100

Stihl waters wrote: »

Obviously not, done deal just aren't advertising dogs for sale

Dogs.ie

kerryjack

Jesus the price of them

Stihl waters

kerryjack wrote: »

Jesus the price of them

You'd want to be mental to pay the sort of money they're asking for dogs

Jb1989

32 house dogs here soon

lawred2

Big money to be made from middle class suburbans wanting it all..

lawred2

Jb1989 wrote: »

32 house dogs here soon

Yeah but the perfect Christmas is worth how much?

Animal lovers eh!?

kerryjack

Supply and demand, we have an ould boy here we are going to have to try and keep him alive for a while longer.

Jb1989

lawred2 wrote: »

Yeah but the perfect Christmas is worth how much?

Animal lovers eh!?

Far from true animal lovers alright.

Prominent_Dawg

Gumtree can be good! Be careful of scammer especially this time of year!

whelan2

Our dog had one pup, everyone who sees him asks are we selling him

Grueller

I gave away 4 Jack Russell pups in June. All to local good homes. I wouldn't let them go to families where I thought they would leave them locked up from 8 in the morning until 6 in the evening while they were all away at work or school.

Seamai

Grueller wrote: »

I gave away 4 Jack Russell pups in June. All to local good homes. I wouldn't let them go to families where I thought they would leave them locked up from 8 in the morning until 6 in the evening while they were all away at work or school.

As much as I'd love a dog (have a real soft spot for Jack Russells) that is the exact reason we don't have one.

_Brian

Lady over clipping pony the other day and she was saying that dogs are gold dust at the moment. She said €1500 for any sort of mongrel at all, pups in particular very expensive.

Lady my wife works with just recently spent €2500 on a spaniel of some sorts.

kollegeknight

Locally, a lad sold 13 golden retriever pups- €2k for dogs and €2100 for the bitches. Said he got €500 last year for them.

Unbelievable prices.

kerryjack

kollegeknight wrote: »

Locally, a lad sold 13 golden retriever pups- €2k for dogs and €2100 for the bitches. Said he got €500 last year for them.

Unbelievable prices.

That's over 26000 euro by my calculation

keepalive213

Local lad, cavalier king charles pups, 1500 each for 6 of them, sold in 30 mins when advertised.
This was in around July 2020
9k for a litter of pups, the world is going crazy

kerryjack

A fool and there money is easily parted

harmless

kerryjack wrote: »

A fool and there money is easily parted

People being foolish with their money wouldn't be my main worry with this situation.

kollegeknight

kerryjack wrote: »

That's over 26000 euro by my calculation

Yep- a few of them in college and paid for easily in a week of sales. Christmas well paid for too.

anewme

It's a huge criminal enterprise and CAB now involved.

Raid in Baldoyle, Dublin tonight has seized dogs and horses worth over 150k as posted above.

Greed and disposable consumerism resulting in suffering.

Jb1989

anewme wrote: »

It's a huge criminal enterprise and CAB now involved.

Raid in Baldoyle, Dublin tonight has seized dogs and horses worth over 150k as posted above.

Greed and disposable consumerism resulting I'm suffering.

Yea, what ever counter arguments are there, I myself wouldn't have the conscience to breed any animals when others are being literally disposed of.

harmless

€1k+ for a pup that has been raised in a tiny cage away from its mother . And then the buyers will wonder why the pup they paid so much for has behavioral problems.
The pictures from Baldoyle are disgusting.

I believe the dog rescue's are fairly full but can't operate under lockdown and don't want to as many people are only getting a pup while they work from home and will be unable to care it for once they have to start going to the office again.

Anyone with patience will have a very large selection of dogs to choose from in a few months and it will cost them very little.

Atlantic Dawn

anewme wrote: »

It's a huge criminal enterprise and CAB now involved.

Raid in Baldoyle, Dublin tonight has seized dogs and horses worth over 150k as posted above.

Greed and disposable consumerism resulting in suffering.

Apparently it was a raid related to catalytic convertor theft that led to the discovery...

The Irish Sun can reveal that cops made the discovery in Baldoyle, north Dublin on Monday morning, the base of a traveller mob who are on a blitz stealing catalytic converters.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/6159806/gardai-seize-32-dogs-cars-robbery-gang-baldoyle/

harmless

32 dogs worth €150k. So over €4,500 each. Was one a prize winning greyhound that upped the average value?

gozunda

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Apparently it was a raid related to catalytic convertor theft that led to the discovery...





https://www.thesun.ie/news/6159806/gardai-seize-32-dogs-cars-robbery-gang-baldoyle/

Quite mixture of dogs there tbh

I wonder if some of those small dogs were intended for use in fighting ...

anewme

harmless wrote: »

€1k+ for a pup that has been raised in a tiny cage away from its mother, . And then they buyers will wonder why the pup they paid so much for has behavioral problems.
The pictures from Baldoyle are disgusting.

I believe the dog rescue's are fairly full but can't operate under lockdown and don't want to as many people are only getting a pup while they work from home and will be unable to care it for once they have to start going to the office again.

Anyone who has patience will be able to adopt these very expensive dogs for next to nothing in a few months time.

They said that in March, when people returned in September, but in reality, the lockdown pups have not hit rescues. People disposing of them selling at a profit. It's not abating.

When you see the dogs at Baldoyle, plus the dogs sold through "breeders" with 300 bitches, aka Cullivan etc, and the misery of the Mums (watch Panorama on Cullivan)the people wanting non shed, hypoallergenic etc should just buy a toy dog.

They may be man's best friend, but man is certainly not theirs.

Go to your local rescue. At least 3 in kerry within 20 km of me

anewme

harmless wrote: »

32 dogs worth €150k. So over €4,500 each. Was one a prize winning greyhound that upped the average value?

6 of the dogs were pregnant. I'd say they counted the puppy value as well.

anewme

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Apparently it was a raid related to catalytic convertor theft that led to the discovery...





https://www.thesun.ie/news/6159806/gardai-seize-32-dogs-cars-robbery-gang-baldoyle/

I've had first hand experience of catalytic converter theft and its pretty clear what section of society are involved.

Same as those driving around stealing dogs.

harmless

anewme wrote: »

6 of the dogs were pregnant. I'd say they counted the puppy value as well.

So probably closer to 60 dogs once the mothers have given birth. €2,500 per pup. I know prices are crazy but not that crazy.

anewme wrote: »

I've had first hand experience of catalytic converter theft and its pretty clear what section of society are involved.

Same as those driving around stealing dogs.

Well the article says traveler mob.....

anewme wrote: »

They said that in March, when people returned in September, but in reality, the lockdown pups have not hit rescues. People disposing of them selling at a profit. It's not abating.

Most people I know that can work from home are still working from home since March so we have yet to see what happens when most people do go back to the office.

anewme

harmless wrote: »

So probably closer to 60 dogs once the mothers have given birth. €2,500 per pup. I know prices are crazy but not that crazy.





Well the article says traveler mob.....



Most people I know that can work from home are still working from home since March so we have yet to see what happens when most people do go back to the office.

The calculations are genuine.

A female puppy capable of producing multiple litters would cost more to buy within the circle.

Plus, not everyone works in an office...the end consumers for the chi type dogs are not the office worker demograph.

_Brian

Aparantly the infamous Cavan puppy farmer is using some of the lesser known versions of DD and has €64k worth of puppies advertised.

CiboC

ml100 wrote: »

Dogs.ie

Are the dogs listed here 'legit' or are there puppy farms hiding out here too?

NcdJd

anewme wrote: »

I've had first hand experience of catalytic converter theft and its pretty clear what section of society are involved.

Same as those driving around stealing dogs.

+1 on that.

CAB seem to be the only instrument of the state that are effective at disrupting these gangs.

lawred2

CiboC wrote: »

Are the dogs listed here 'legit' or are there puppy farms hiding out here too?

How much better for the animals is legit breeding for profit?

Either way - legit or not - the buyers are creating a demand that is less about animal care and more about the owner's themselves.

lawred2

I've heard it countless times from gobshoites who see it the same as buying from amazon..

"we're going to buy a dog"

"who from?"

"no idea - online probably"

ILikeBoats

A lot of people saying to rescue, go to a shelter, adopt. Almost every description from these places says adult home only, 16+ children, 12+ children. How are you supposed to adopt if you have younger kids?

CiboC

We've been keeping an eye on shelters near us for 6 months now, anything that would suit our family appears to be 'reserved' before it even goes up.

We have kids aged 7, 9 and 13 so want a dog that is good with children. As said lots of the descriptions are adults only, older children only, other animals as well, etc.

Am trying to do the right thing but am getting cheesed off with the process too.....

StopWatch

CiboC wrote: »

We've been keeping an eye on shelters near us for 6 months now, anything that would suit our family appears to be 'reserved' before it even goes up.

We have kids aged 7, 9 and 13 so want a dog that is good with children. As said lots of the descriptions are adults only, older children only, other animals as well, etc.

Am trying to do the right thing but am getting cheesed off with the process too.....

Top tip which really helped us. - Foster some dogs, ones that are post surgery or require care. Or maybe just need a bit of tlc.
Help out the shelter. They're sometimes "reserved" by people who've been helping the charity for some time. Alot of shelters want to home the dogs with the right family. So that they don't end up back In shelters again. So try out a few different breeds, help out the shelter where you can and you'll know more about dogs and the shelter will know more about you.

anewme

CiboC wrote: »

We've been keeping an eye on shelters near us for 6 months now, anything that would suit our family appears to be 'reserved' before it even goes up.

We have kids aged 7, 9 and 13 so want a dog that is good with children. As said lots of the descriptions are adults only, older children only, other animals as well, etc.

Am trying to do the right thing but am getting cheesed off with the process too.....

I've been waiting for a few months too and finding it similar to you. There is also a reduction in smaller dogs coming to shelters/pounds as dogs previously surrendered are now being sold on, for big money, so the lockdown dogs initially predicted did not materialise.

Dogs.ie is no better than done deal.

Reckon its better for me to be cheesed off though, rather than support misery for any dog and morally am not willing to go down that road.

_Brian

Honestly if the same ownership and traceability regulation were properly applied to dog ownership you would have less frivolous ownership and not as much dumping after Christmas.

Ave Sodalis

CiboC wrote:

Are the dogs listed here 'legit' or are there puppy farms hiding out here too?

I would bet money on them all being backyard breeder and puppy farms.

I wholeheartedly support fantastic breeders, and I'm actually pretty against the "adopt, don't shop" slogan for a number of reasons, so when I say this, I'm not saying it because I believe it should be the only option. However, the only legitimate way to get a dog during this pandemic is through a rescue. Reputable breeder litters are booked for months, if not years.

The biggest issue right now is the time of year. It's coming up to Christmas and the demand (that is already at insane levels) is going to skyrocket. Now that doesn't mean all hope is lost. I recently got a dog, and got the first and only dog I applied for. I work professionally with dogs and it was a "hard to home" breed so that was in my favour.
In the New Year, there will be a mass influx of dogs into the centres as people realise dogs don't come ready trained. There will be another influx of dogs when the pandemic and lockdown passes and you have people that a) don't have time any more and/or b) the dog develops separation anxiety from suddenly being left alone with no preparation and destroys the house.

You're just searching for a dog at a really bad time OP. If you're willing to wait a few months, the demand will plummet and so will the insane prices.

anewme

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

I would bet money on them all being backyard breeder and puppy farms.

I wholeheartedly support fantastic breeders, and I'm actually pretty against the "adopt, don't shop" slogan for a number of reasons, so when I say this, I'm not saying it because I believe it should be the only option. However, the only legitimate way to get a dog during this pandemic is through a rescue. Reputable breeder litters are booked for months, if not years.

Great post.

I would actually also support a genuine Breeder, they should not be tarred with the same brush as the backyard breeders and farmers and its very unfair. but the problem is, how do you know 100% they are genuine.

I've seen the pictures of lovely Bridges down the Country when the reality is that its a puppy farm selling CAVA anything to people who want a cute n fluffy white dog. Its as obvious as the nose on your face but people still fall for it.

d have no problem going on a waiting list either. There are a couple that I've come across that appear genuine but I dont know enough to make that decision.

Seamai

lawred2 wrote: »

How much better for the animals is legit breeding for profit?

Either way - legit or not - the buyers are creating a demand that is less about animal care and more about the owner's themselves.

A lot of it is about image, not any old dog will do. I was walking on the Marina in Cork on Sunday (a very popular place to stroll and be seen for many Corkonians). I was struck by the amount of people with dogs, about 80% of them were women and almost all were of the expensive variety, bichon frises, golden doodles, pugs and chihuahuas. I spotted a guy with a three legged greyhound being barked at by a fur baby whose owner could barely hide her disdain for the greyhound. Buy a handbag or another pair of black active wear leggings if you want an accessory, not a dog.