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Biden/Harris Presidency Discussion Thread

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    Longer terms would work if there were term limits. A better option (and totally nonviable) would be to get rid of the Senate and make the House actually representative of population.


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    Longer terms would work if there were term limits. A better option (and totally nonviable) would be to get rid of the Senate and make the House actually representative of population.

    I wouldn't "get rid" of the Senate but I'd certainly look to make it more representative based on Population.

    The house is reasonably representative , but it gets twisted by gerrymandered districts.

    So - Maybe double the size of the Senate and give extra seats to States based on Population - With all States having a minimum of 2 seats and create an independent "Election Commission" that defines both the districts and the voting rules consistently across the country.

    But like you say , will never ever happen.


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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    I wouldn't "get rid" of the Senate but I'd certainly look to make it more representative based on Population.

    The house is reasonably representative , but it gets twisted by gerrymandered districts.

    So - Maybe double the size of the Senate and give extra seats to States based on Population - With all States having a minimum of 2 seats and create an independent "Election Commission" that defines both the districts and the voting rules consistently across the country.

    But like you say , will never ever happen.

    The issue with the House is that its numbers are capped, which penalizes States that see their population grow. There ought to be more members of the House, based on the apportioning ratio.

    We've seen how the mechanisms of government fail if politicians refuse to honor them. The Senate doesn't work in the current political climate.


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    The issue with the House is that its numbers are capped, which penalizes States that see their population grow. There ought to be more members of the House, based on the apportioning ratio. .

    If they grow enough, they will see their representation change. My State gets two more representatives next Congress.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-states-won-and-lost-seats-in-the-2020-census/
    That Schumer is unable to put the screws to Machin and Sinema is damning indictment of his leadership. The Sock Puppet continues to run circles around the Dems.

    What screws? It is Manchin and Sinema who have the screws to put to Schumer right now. They don’t work for him. If the Democrats get more Senators, the balance off power may change, but it is not in Schumer’s favor right now.


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    If they grow enough, they will see their representation change. My State gets two more representatives next Congress.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-states-won-and-lost-seats-in-the-2020-census/



    What screws? It is Manchin and Sinema who have the screws to put to Schumer right now. They don’t work for him. If the Democrats get more Senators, the balance off power may change, but it is not in Schumer’s favor right now.

    They shuffle district numbers, but the overall number of Representatives isn't capped. Which mean that the ratio of citizens to Representative continues to expand over time. Leading to increased democratic deficits


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    They shuffle district numbers, but the overall number of Representatives isn't capped. Which mean that the ratio of citizens to Representative continues to expand over time. Leading to increased democratic deficits

    As long as the ratios of citizens to representatives are generally maintained equally across the states, it seems good enough. It's not as if they're going to go build expansions to the Congress building to fit new seats just to ensure that there's always a "700k constituents to 1 representative" ratio as the population of the country grows. Any representative system is inherently going to be 'less than democratic' by its nature.

    The number of representatives each State has in the House is roughly proportional to their populations as compared to other states. I'd argue it's acceptable for the role.


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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    I wouldn't "get rid" of the Senate but I'd certainly look to make it more representative based on Population.

    The house is reasonably representative , but it gets twisted by gerrymandered districts.

    So - Maybe double the size of the Senate and give extra seats to States based on Population - With all States having a minimum of 2 seats and create an independent "Election Commission" that defines both the districts and the voting rules consistently across the country.

    But like you say , will never ever happen.

    Some good ideas that would actually allow the Us to really become a democracy. I would throw in getting rid of the electoral college in terms of electing the president as well.
    Sadly as you say though none of the above has any chance of happening and the US will continue to be what it is a corrupted pseudo democracy but dangerously one that is flirting with becoming an out and out authoritarian state.


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    eire4 wrote: »
    Some good ideas that would actually allow the Us to really become a democracy. I would throw in getting rid of the electoral college in terms of electing the president as well.
    Sadly as you say though none of the above has any chance of happening and the US will continue to be what it is a corrupted pseudo democracy but dangerously one that is flirting with becoming an out and out authoritarian state.

    If they awarded the Electoral College votes proportionately, it would go a fair way to improving things. Simple enough adjustment, without the need for a complete overall.


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    If they awarded the Electoral College votes proportionately, it would go a fair way to improving things. Simple enough adjustment, without the need for a complete overall.

    I could get behind this, but there's no chance of it happening either. Democrats will not give up 40% of California's votes, neither would Republicans give up 40% of Texas', for example.


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    If they awarded the Electoral College votes proportionately, it would go a fair way to improving things. Simple enough adjustment, without the need for a complete overall.

    It just needs to go period IMHO. No place for it in a true democracy. The winner of the election should be the person who wins the most votes in the election. No need for any middleman.


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    I could get behind this, but there's no chance of it happening either. Democrats will not give up 40% of California's votes, neither would Republicans give up 40% of Texas', for example.

    Got to love how much the political parties fear the voters.


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    I could get behind this, but there's no chance of it happening either. Democrats will not give up 40% of California's votes, neither would Republicans give up 40% of Texas', for example.

    Aside from that, the idea of some of the lower populated countries getting metaphorically ra*ed when the larger states realise they no longer need to entertain them doesn't sound too appealing.

    Obviously the arguments for true proportional representation are valid but the resources of these states could be deemed too good to leave to themselves to decide what to do with them unless state legislation is strong enough to protect each individual state. People in these states aren't going to grow any founder of Washington if they are being railroaded in to fracking or other natural habitat destroying practices just to keep Texas or California with energy or clean water or whatever.


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    big fan of Biden bluntly calling out Facebook by saying that "They're killing people" by facilitating so much disinformation



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    Last week Foxnews were lamabasting Facebook for attacking free speech, basically for banning Trump. This week they’re defending Facebook as a bastion of free speech, because Biden attacked them. It’s hilarious.


    Vaccination rates are lowest in Red states, the GOP are afraid to do anything about it.



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    Exactly. Barack Obama talked in his latest book about how the Democrats controlled The House for the entire duration of Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr.'s presidencies but all of them were able to govern as everyone was willing to negotiate and compromise in order to get bills passed. There was no opposition for the sake of opposition.

    Then the Republicans took The House in 1995 and Newt Gingrich became Speaker. This is when things started to break down. Basically they had calculated/realised that there was no political upside to helping the President get his agenda passed. This process only accelerated when Obama was elected. The Democrats took their back by ensuring that Trump could get nothing passed in his final 2 years in office but now the Republicans are taking it to new levels of cynicism by turning life saving vaccinations into a political football.



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    I have heard the theory that the breakdown is due to the Reagan era, basically Reagan passed that big immigration amnesty and regularised huge numbers of people but the reciprocal thing was meant to be that it was strictly a once off and illegal immigration was meant to be non partisanly tightly controlled and not rewarded.



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    It looks like anyone (like me) who thought that Biden would shake up the DOJ and clean out the extraordinary tenure of Jeff Sessions & Bill Barr, are in for a very rude awakening... Merrit Garland's appointment as AG has done little to restore faith so far. Here's a few concerns from the recent past:

    1. Wilbur Ross was found to have lied to Congress at least twice, but DOJ not going to prosecute. However, Omarosa Manigault Newman (a Trump POS 'advisor') who 'happens to be black ' is being fined $50,000 for a late filing of a form...

    2. Capitol rioter received 1st Federal sentence of 8 months. However, young black lads routinely 'earn' decade-long stints in jail for marijuana offenses...Not a single Capitol attacker has been charged with Sedition, which is incredible...

    3. DOJ is trying to have grand jury evidence sealed for 50 years... This will keep EVERYTHING resulting from the Mueller investigation that then went to Grand Juries well-hidden for decades...

    etc.

    Sadly, so much stink remains the same!



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    And if people thought there was going to be a change when it comes to an bumbling idiot in office, they must also be disappointed.


    Stupid politicians seems to be an endemic problem in America.



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    Don't mistake users being unhappy with elements of the new administration with a concession that it's as bad as the last one. They are incomparable.



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    That's only an accurate statement if you deal in political absolutes; that any balls dropped by one administration is comparable to the historically lopsided number of ones dropped by the previous admin. There's simply no fair degree of equivalence to be drawn between the Biden and Trump administrations, except if one is angling towards a "they're all the same" reduction. Which TBH, by your own history here, tends to be how you swing.

    There's no question a great many things wrong with the structures of American politics, from the polling stations to the Resolute desk, but you'd want to be spectacularly naive to think Biden was going to be the one to fix them. Or any. So really the question isn't - has it got better? - inasmuch as it can be phrased - has it got worse?



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    Come on, nobody in their right mind thought Biden would enact real change.



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    Considering the record amount of people voting for him, I would think that's not exactly the most scientific of judgements



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    Depends how you define real.


    I never expected him to turn on Israel or socialise medicine. Because he never said he would.


    I fully expected him to competently enact his policies. He is and that’s a real change from the last chump.



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    Not without the Senate Democrats pulling the thumb out



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    It was just a comment about how idiotic and bumbling Biden is.

    America claims to be leaders of the free world and they keep producing stupid politicians.



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    Anyone from an outside view of America can see the parties there have largely similar economic and foreign policy aims and policies.

    Biden compared the covid pandemic with the American War of Independence on their July 4th celebration. A bizarre, jingoistic, "patriotic" rubbish you hear from America.



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    What has Biden done that was stupid? I mean actions not stumbling over words.



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    Will you swap that €500 note of yours for my €5? I don't see why you should care about the minor difference. They're both just notes that you end up giving away for other stuff anyway.



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    He could stop putting forward bills that get blocked by judges because they are racially discriminating.

    These being so far.

    The Small Business Administration relief program.

    Emergency Relief for Farmers of Color Act which was rolled into the bigger bill.


    This allows conservatives to portray the Biden administration as "reverse racists" and so far at least the courts are agreeing

    Also well it's hard for him to do this while keeping the left wing of his party at least slightly happy but he could choose staff picks that don't invite easy criticism, catherine lhamon being the current example.

    Also he could give a top down direction to not include controversial groups/theories that put off moderates



    and before there is the constant whining about the source it's got the response from the department in it. Note the way relevant to the first point I made about making picks that make attack easy, Deputy Education Secretary hosted the group previously



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