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Advice on waste water connection

  • 05-11-2020 8:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24


    Bought a site with planning Permission In an Urban, currently half way through the build and we applied to Irish water for a waste water connection. They came back on my application to say they do not have infrastructure in the area and the closest sewer to connect too is 70m away and It would not be feasible for them to offer me a connection. So not sure what to do now, have no planing for a septic tank In my planning permission. Contacted the Local council regarding the message from Irish water and they said because it is Irish waters infrastructure they can not get involved. Any advice on what my options are now would be appreciated, could I apply for planning permission now for a septic tank? Also applied to Irish water for a water connection which they advised they can provide at the standard connection fee. Thanks


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    1. ‘In an urban’ what?
    2. What has your arch /Eng stated?
    3. What is the size of your plot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Nba man


    BryanF wrote: »
    1. ‘In an urban’ what?
    2. What has your arch /Eng stated?
    3. What is the size of your plot?

    Sorry missing text there.

    Urban area
    Haven’t spoke to engineer yet, didn’t know this would be his area ?
    Size is .083 Hectares

    Thanks


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Very small site for treatment system.
    Suggest engineer needs to engage with Irish water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    If they cant come to you.
    You will need to go to them.

    If you are 70m away from you take your pipe within 10m of theirs and they will connect you for the standard fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Nba man


    kieran. wrote: »
    If they cant come to you.
    You will need to go to them.

    If you are 70m away from you take your pipe within 10m of theirs and they will connect you for the standard fee.

    Yea but the sewer 70m away is on a road, the expense to dig up to it I can imagine would be very expensive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    I got 300m done recently to get to a sewer at a cost of €110k, so approx. €350 per meter. Road opening license will need to added to this cost also, plus design fees.

    All in all I would budget around 40k.

    A spetic tank is out of the question due to your site area therefore if you want to build you will need to connect to Irish Waters infrastructure unfortunately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Nba man


    kieran. wrote: »
    I got 300m done recently to get to a sewer at a cost of €110k, so approx. €350 per meter. Road opening license will need to added to this cost also, plus design fees.

    All in all I would budget around 40k.

    A spetic tank is out of the question due to your site area therefore if you want to build you will need to connect to Irish Waters infrastructure unfortunately

    It’s a hefty unhidden cost. My planning permission states that my financial contributions once discharged covers public infrastructure and facilities benefitting the development. Have I any grounds to pursue this or is this something different?


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Nba man wrote: »
    It’s a hefty unhidden cost. My planning permission states that my financial contributions once discharged covers public infrastructure and facilities benefitting the development. Have I any grounds to pursue this or is this something different?

    different

    the development contributions does not cover connection fees

    this should have been sorted out at planning stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    What size pipe did you have in your design for the waste water application?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    TheW1zard wrote: »
    What size pipe did you have in your design for the waste water application?

    Is that directed at the OP.

    Water connection is no problem it was probably as standard 20mm connection.

    For foul 70meters away from the site he would likely need a 150mm connection. (100mm to his internal inspection chamber and 150Ø exiting the site).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Yes question for the OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    kieran. wrote: »
    I got 300m done recently to get to a sewer at a cost of €110k, so approx. €350 per meter. Road opening license will need to added to this cost also, plus design fees.

    All in all I would budget around 40k.

    A spetic tank is out of the question due to your site area therefore if you want to build you will need to connect to Irish Waters infrastructure unfortunately

    How did it cost so much to dig a trench for a 6" pipe? Was it because you had to replace neighbouring infrastructure on the route?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    How did it cost so much to dig a trench for a 6" pipe? Was it because you had to replace neighbouring infrastructure on the route?

    Digging down a public road was slow with lots of existing services and big boulders. It didn't help that it was 3m deep in parts.


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