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No Irish people doing Deliveroo/Just Eat?

  • 05-11-2020 12:20am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭


    My work has been affected by Covid 19 so have to look at options.Just thinking tonight I've never met an Irish person doing it
    Any reason why?
    Or anyone have an experience of it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    sasta le wrote: »
    My work has been affected by Covid 19 so have to look at options.Just thinking tonight I've never met an Irish person doing it
    Any reason why?
    Or anyone have an experience of it?

    I've met a few, think its the same reason very few do local take away deliveries. Pay wouldn't be great, most of the time its your own vechicle if driving, or cycling mad distance in a day. Not the most attractive job to be fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Noticed that with a lot of companies but as they charge say e3 for delivery does the driver get that fee at end of shift which can mount up depending on how many they do.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,380 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Mod - Moved to Work & Jobs, read the local charter before posting


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Mjolnir wrote: »
    I've met a few, think its the same reason very few do local take away deliveries. Pay wouldn't be great, most of the time its your own vechicle if driving, or cycling mad distance in a day. Not the most attractive job to be fair.

    Needs must.Jesus can't understand why young lads ain't doing it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Smacruairi


    sasta le wrote: »
    Needs must.Jesus can't understand why young lads ain't doing it

    Would like to know their pay. If its just the 3 quid per order its hardly worth your while. Might get 5 in a hour, so that's 15quid an hour, 60 a night max?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Mod - Moved to Work & Jobs, read the local charter before posting

    Sorry could you move it to After hours just to get some chat going on it please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,321 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    sasta le wrote: »
    Sorry could you move it to After hours just to get some chat going on it please

    Gas!!

    OP, I've seen loads of Irish doing it. So yeah, Irish people are doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Had a young Irish lad deliver my most recent Uber Eats.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Gas!!

    OP, I've seen loads of Irish doing it. So yeah, Irish people are doing it.

    I'm.just going by my own experience and seen.Often asked the driver's where they from etc to make chatIve just never seen it.Also no young Irish are doing it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Years ago think someone mentioned 200 a night in tips Omg as thats serious money but must be long hours and knowing where your going to save time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    sasta le wrote: »
    Needs must.Jesus can't understand why young lads ain't doing it

    Some do, when I lived in Dublin a couple of the local pizza places had young lads delivering. But when you put the cost of insurance and fuel for young drivers its not really worth it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    See it in Limerick City never had an Irish delivery driver except from a Chinese takeaway that always had Irisgh guys doing delivery cause they would be known if ya get me
    I see no young lads doing it either but do see them acting the maggot on bikes


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Mjolnir wrote: »
    Some do, when I lived in Dublin a couple of the local pizza places had young lads delivering. But when you put the cost of insurance and fuel for young drivers its not really worth it.

    Yeah I use see Irish alot more maybe till before 5 years ago doing it by car..and some local places still just do it that way..but I'm talking more about Deliveroo Uber eats etc prob more by bike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,375 ✭✭✭highdef


    sasta le wrote: »
    Sorry could you move it to After hours just to get some chat going on it please

    Work & Jobs is by far the most suitable topic. So, does anyone know what the average hourly rate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    sasta le wrote: »
    Just thinking tonight I've never met an Irish person doing it
    Any reason why?
    For the most part, it's the same reason you have foreigners in the corporate fast food places, and not the unemployed Irish; some Irish can earn better by doing nothing. The foreigners will do every job they can to survive.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    highdef wrote: »
    Work & Jobs is by far the most suitable topic. So, does anyone know what the average hourly rate?

    Fair enough just thought for more debate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Cash in hand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Cash in hand

    Tips, yes. Wages, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    They are not PAYE workers, is my point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    They are not PAYE workers, is my point.

    That doesn’t imply or even remotely mean cash in hand


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Tips, yes. Wages, no.

    Wages yes! I had a friend who worked as a delivery drive for a pizzeria. He was paid in cash. When the pandemic struck he was unable to claim the PUP as he technically was never employed privately.

    He had to listen to all the part time wait staff who made around €250 p/w. talk about how they were going to spent there PUP on clothes and stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    Wages yes! I had a friend who worked as a delivery drive for a pizzeria. He was paid in cash. When the pandemic struck he was unable to claim the PUP as he technically was never employed privately.

    He had to listen to all the part time wait staff who made around €250 p/w. talk about how they were going to spent there PUP on clothes and stuff.
    He just had to make do on his ordinary dole?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Wages yes! I had a friend who worked as a delivery drive for a pizzeria. He was paid in cash. When the pandemic struck he was unable to claim the PUP as he technically was never employed privately.

    He had to listen to all the part time wait staff who made around €250 p/w. talk about how they were going to spent there PUP on clothes and stuff.

    Serves him right. Same happened to a taxi driver I know, when the rates got reduced his did too because he wasn't declaring his full income.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    vandriver wrote: »
    He just had to make do on his ordinary dole?

    He's a FT college student, so he got nothing.
    GarIT wrote: »
    Serves him right. Same happened to a taxi driver I know, when the rates got reduced his did too because he wasn't declaring his full income.

    The lad was making about 150 a week prior to get through life while he was in college FT. Hardly the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    Wages yes! I had a friend who worked as a delivery drive for a pizzeria. He was paid in cash.

    The example you use is the not the same for JustEat or Deliveroo workers; all of their 'wages' (though I think they are contractors) are recorded meticulously via the app
    Mjolnir wrote: »
    I've met a few, think its the same reason very few do local take away deliveries. Pay wouldn't be great, most of the time its your own vechicle if driving, or cycling mad distance in a day. Not the most attractive job to be fair.

    I think its more that no previous experience or language skills are required, which makes it very attractive for an immigrant with very few contacts and perhaps not the best English.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    He's a FT college student, so he got nothing.



    The lad was making about 150 a week prior to get through life while he was in college FT. Hardly the same.

    Still needs to obey the law. Can't expect society to support him when he didn't support society and looked after his own interests when that suited him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    They're all Brazilian and Mexican


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Well if you've any semblance of self preservation then this job isn't for you.

    Do you like to dress in Black, use head phones and scroll through social media while cycling, no helmet or lights or reflective ppe and take no responsibility for your own personal safety then apply now....

    These lads are nuisance around town and the RSA or some other safety authority needs to go to town on these companies.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    sasta le wrote: »
    Sorry could you move it to After hours just to get some chat going on it please

    It should not be moved to another section just to generate discussion :) Work & Jobs is the most appropriate section for this post :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Well if you've any semblance of self preservation then this job isn't for you.

    Do you like to dress in Black, use head phones and scroll through social media while cycling, no helmet or lights or reflective ppe and take no responsibility for your own personal safety then apply now....

    These lads are nuisance around town and the RSA or some other safety authority needs to go to town on these companies.

    You forgot to add in that they do all of the above while cycling In a cycle lane on the wrong side of the road and expecting normal cyclists like myself to get out of their way.

    I think they have a nightly bet on who can break the most laws per shift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 TheCrank


    My nephew does it in Belfast. Gets about £60 a night at the moment but says that's higher than average because home demand has shot up during covid.

    Looked at it myself here just last week. The big barrier is insurance. Have a Google for Hire and Reward insurance in Ireland. I'm guessing that most of the lads doing it aren't fully covered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    In answer to the OP's original point: if I lost my job and needed to pick up another job to tide me over very quickly, I'd probably rather cycling around delivering things than most other service industry jobs. I always sort of wanted to be a cycle courier when I was younger; this is basically the same thing (though with a lot less bohemian cachet).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Gosh_idiots


    Our just eat delivery guys where we live now are always Irish.. I think there's one guy from India but other than that they're Irish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    The lad was making about 150 a week prior to get through life while he was in college FT. Hardly the same.

    If thats the case then he should definitely have been declaring it as he wouldnt have paid any tax and he would be on the books for working. Serves him right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    While Deliveroo say they vet their employees there are places online where you can buy a Deliveroo account so it looks like it's someone else who is working and you don't need to prove you're legal then.


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