Why do some Irish people refer to Queen Elizabeth II as "the" Queen?

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

She's not THE Queen, she's A Queen.

Do you refer to King Willem-Alexander as "the" King? It makes as much sense as referring to HM Queen Elizabeth (a foreign monarch) as "the" Queen.

Quantum Erasure

Because, she's the Queen...

Phoebas

When people refer to her as the queen, do you get really confused and unable to figure out what they mean?

EmmetSpiceland

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Do you refer to King Willem-Alexander as "the" King?

I, certainly, would if I was in Holland.

Galwayguy35

The Brit Queen I call her.

It clears up any confusion.

El_Duderino 09

She’s the queen we hear most about. And she’s the queen of the country with whom our media overlaps.

It’s a bit like supporters of a soccer team referring to the teams as “we”. Nothing to worry about.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I, certainly, would if I was in Holland.

If you're in the Netherlands, Willem-Alexander is the king.

If you're in the UK, Elizabeth II is the Queen.

Ireland has neither. She's A queen. Denmark and the UK have Queens, Sweden, Norway, Spain have Queen consorts. Why is Elizabeth "the" Queen?

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Because, she's the Queen...

Of where?

Eduard Khil

The Queen of Engerlund so she is.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I, certainly, would if I was in Holland.

So why refer to Elizabeth as the Queen if you're not in the UK?

Del2005

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

If you're in the Netherlands, Willem-Alexander is the king.

If you're in the UK, Elizabeth II is the Queen.

Ireland has neither. She's A queen. Denmark and the UK have Queens, Sweden, Norway, Spain have Queen consorts. Why is Elizabeth "the" Queen?

I think you need to check your map again. Ireland had a Queen in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland does not.

endacl

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

So why refer to Elizabeth as the Queen if you're not in the UK?

So folks like you can start threads?

Man with broke phone

she's the queen
of my dreams
the fifth quarter of
my tangerine

ripe and sweet
liquid gold
nectarine overdose

i only saw her
yesterday

Timberrrrrrrr

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

She's not THE Queen, she's A Queen.

Do you refer to King Willem-Alexander as "the" King? It makes as much sense as referring to HM Queen Elizabeth (a foreign monarch) as "the" Queen.

For the same some English people refer to Asda as "The Asda" i suppose.

BloodyBill

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

If you're in the Netherlands, Willem-Alexander is the king.

If you're in the UK, Elizabeth II is the Queen.

Ireland has neither. She's A queen. Denmark and the UK have Queens, Sweden, Norway, Spain have Queen consorts. Why is Elizabeth "the" Queen?

Its abit of a bitter post but I ll bite down hard. The Queen and her ancestors have been the Queen of Ireland or Northern Ireland now continuously for hundreds and hundreds of years. Many Irish people North and South still serve in her military and swear an oath of allegiance. Many from where I'm from on the Limerick/Clare border. And to be honest there's a great affinity and warmth for her.

One eyed Jack

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

She's not THE Queen, she's A Queen.

Do you refer to King Willem-Alexander as "the" King? It makes as much sense as referring to HM Queen Elizabeth (a foreign monarch) as "the" Queen.

She is the Queen though, and people will know who you’re referring to when you say something like “God save the Queen”, it’s understood you’re not referring to Panto Bliss, Twink, or the band.

In your world do you say “A God”, just to distinguish the Abrahamic God from the other few hundred Gods?

Ish66

If you said Elizabeth Winsor they would say Who ? ?

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

Del2005 wrote: »

I think you need to check your map again. Ireland had a Queen in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland does not.

By Ireland I mean the sovereign state that we live in.

TheValeyard

Ah, the German Queen.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

Del2005 wrote: »

I think you need to check your map again. Ireland had a Queen in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland does not.

???

CountingCrows

Del2005 wrote: »

I think you need to check your map again. Ireland had a Queen in Northern Ireland.

Julian Simmons?

EmmetSpiceland

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

If you're in the Netherlands, Willem-Alexander is the king.

If you're in the UK, Elizabeth II is the Queen.

Ireland has neither. She's A queen. Denmark and the UK have Queens, Sweden, Norway, Spain have Queen consorts. Why is Elizabeth "the" Queen?

She’s the nearest monarch so defaults to the title of “The Queen”. Generally speaking, I would refer to her as “The Queen of England” but wouldn’t hold it against anyone for using just “The Queen”.

Yes, I am aware that, even, “The Queen of England” is not her correct title. The old lady can’t catch a break.

banie01

When I call her Queen, Freddie Mercury feels offended.
When I call her "a" queen I'm being trans/homo/a.n other-phobic and totally heteronormative.
When I call her "the" Queen...
Everyone knows it's Lizzie, sure she has like the high score for being Queen and is queen of more shítholes than anyone else!

Simples!

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

She’s the nearest monarch so defaults to the title of “The Queen”.

Willem-Alexander is the nearest King, so why isn't he referred to as "the" King?

Montage of Feck

Feck, all this time I just assumed they were referring to Queen Silvia of Sweden.

NIMAN

"Queenie"

Purgative

Ah shure



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Wife "No, Trump."

Greyfox

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

She's not THE Queen, she's A Queen.

Do you refer to King Willem-Alexander as "the" King? It makes as much sense as referring to HM Queen Elizabeth (a foreign monarch) as "the" Queen.

Its easier just to call her the Queen. I didn't even know who King Willem-Alexander was

Rodney Bathgate

I thought “the queen” referred to Adèle King aka Twink?

suicide_circus

Same people people refer to "the premiership" rather than the "English premier league"

the purple tin

'er in Buck House' as Arfur Daley used to call her.

EmmetSpiceland

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Willem-Alexander is the nearest King, so why isn't he referred to as "the" King?

Elvis beat him to it.

odyssey06

When Elizabeth was crowned, Ireland had only left the Commonwealth a few years.
I'm not sure if Charles or William will get 'The King' title over here.

Or maybe, it's our way of signalling to our fellow fifth columnist Royalists.

8-10

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Willem-Alexander is the nearest King, so why isn't he referred to as "the" King?

What do you hear him regularly referred to as here in Ireland?

Honestly I've never heard him mentioned

Badly Drunk Boy

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Willem-Alexander is the nearest King, so why isn't he referred to as "the" King?

Because people don't tend to talk about him much in these here parts...

upupup

The queen went to The Ukraine after her visit to Netherlands,,I read it on The twitter

WoollyRedHat

So as not to get confused with the band 'Queen', was a big lawsuit over it.

Skylinehead

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Willem-Alexander is the nearest King, so why isn't he referred to as "the" King?

Because he isn't, Philippe is.

All hail King Philippe.

Hamsterchops

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Why do some Irish people refer to Queen Elizabeth II as "the" Queen?

Oh, it's terrible isn't it...

Dirty west brits calling Her Maj "The Queen" when so many other queen's inhabit these islands :rolleyes:

Get a life man...

odyssey06

Skylinehead wrote: »

Because he isn't, Philippe is.
All hail King Philippe.

That sound like treason to me. We already have a Queen.

MadDog76

I'm no lover of the Brits and, historically speaking, one side of my family is staunchly Republican ....... but this really is a non issue ....... she's the Queen and that's that.

Allinall

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

So why refer to Elizabeth as the Queen if you're not in the UK?

We’re in the British Isles.

That’s good enough for me.

JohnnyFlash

Allinall wrote: »

We’re in the British Isles.

That’s good enough for me.

Jesus, that will get the barstool republicans going once they wake up and read it!

IAMAMORON

Allinall wrote: »

We’re in the British Isles.

That’s good enough for me.

Nice one, looking forward to this in a few hours.

I am off for lunch, talk later.

EmmetSpiceland

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Jesus, that will get the barstool republicans going once they wake up and read it!

whisky_galore

Brits living rent free in Boardsies' heads again.

JimToken

whisky_galore wrote: »

Brits living rent free in Boardsies' heads again.

RTE still taking up most of it

Faridaweeda

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Of where?

Leeson street

Church on Tuesday

whisky_galore wrote: »

Brits living rent free in Boardsies' heads again.

Some of them want it that way TBH.

These threads always bring up this weird niche cross section of Irish society; the West Brit who won't actually **** off and live in the actual UK and the rabid barstool republican with an 800 year chip on the shoulder.

JimToken

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Some of them want it that way TBH.

These threads always bring up this weird niche cross section of Irish society; the West Brit who won't actually **** off and live in the actual UK and the rabid barstool republican with an 800 year chip on the shoulder.

The expats here and abroad

Church on Tuesday

JimToken wrote: »

The expats here and abroad

English?